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SeatBelt

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Right, so the important biggie I'm always hearing about is how we view our father affects how we view God.
There's bound to be others, right? How we view "x" affects how we view "Y"? What are some you believe to be true?
Humorous And serious. What view drives another for you?

{Personally, I'd say how a person views BBQ (Mmmmm Delicious....) affects how said person views livestock (Mmmmm Future Delicious.....).}

And now the one you've all been waiting for... The one I most want to know about...
What does a person's view (child/adult/either/both) of their mother affect their view of?
[This part is something I need to be keenly aware of to take steps to manage for my children to avoid future problems in their life.]
 
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twofeet

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Well I guess for me my "Mother" (I was adopted and later disowned) taught me everything about how to be a good mum to my kids....just do the exact opposite of everything I saw her do. So even negative experiences can produce positive ones.
 
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iTOREtheSKY

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Thought provoking thread SeatBelt...good question
Let's see, for me growing up I viewed my Mom as my protector because my parents had gotten divorced by the time I was 5 & I really didn't have a Dad around,so I always looked to her for comfort. As I got a bit older,I thought of her like a big sister-best friend I guess. Because my whole life she always had encouraged me to be creative & didn't put the normal pressures that a parent does on a kid...she let me grow my hair long,listen to metal,etc...but I think how I viewed her effects how I view women I am interested in as friends or as someone to date/marry. I look for humor,far above anything else. My Mom was hilarious & free thinking,but she was also sold out to God 100% and was as far back as I have memories of her. Always praising God in song & prayer. (which of course I hated in my rebellious teen years) I dunno..am I answering this question right SeatBelt??? Sorry if this is not making sense.
 
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I remember listening to a caller on a christian radio show, an older gentleman who was at his wits end because he wanted so much to believe in God but was too afraid because he thought God was going to treat him like his abusive father did when he was growing up. He thought that God would severely punish him for every little thing he did wrong. The radio host (bless his heart), who is also a pastor was able to make him understand that God was not like that and so through his tears this gentleman accepted Jesus into his heart and actually forgave his father on that show.

Oh how I miss that particular christian radio show and that host who was really the most patient and understanding man I'd ever heard. I had shed a lot of tears while driving because of that show. His name's Paul McGuire and it was simply called "The Paul McGuire Show" if anyone's wondering and he quit radio to become a christian speaker.
 
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Jullianna

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How I view my stepfather is how a view a good man.
How I view my God is how I view who I am in Him.
How I view my son is how I view love in its purest form.
How I view my dog is how I have come to understand unconditional love. Dogs love you no matter what I think. :)
How I view my music is how I view what God has put inside of me.
How I view my mom/grandmother/former mother in law is how I view the godly woman I want to be.
 

Liamson

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I've never had a good relationship with a Woman who has little to no Father in her life.


The best ones were definitely the apple of their father's eye.
 
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Jullianna

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I've never had a good relationship with a Woman who has little to no Father in her life.


The best ones were definitely the apple of their father's eye.
I hope all of the fathers reading this will realize how deeply affected a daughter's relationships with men will be by their relationships with their dads. A good father helps his daughter understand her value. He shows her how a man behaves respectfully to a woman. He protects her, but gives her tough love and correction when she needs it. He encourages her to try new things. He knows when to be silent, just listen and hold her when she cries. He prays for her.
 

OnThisRock

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Although my father could not be a good father, my model for how I view a man was my grandfather. In a way he shaped and molded me and my image of men. And this was a good thing! He was like a father and I was the apple of his eye. Like in all things, I don't believe we can totally generalize and say that a woman who has a bad father figure is destined to fail. That would trump who God is. He works differently in everyone's lives. Psychology has a way of warping perceptions!
 

AsifinPassing

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Right, so the important biggie I'm always hearing about is how we view our father affects how we view God.
There's bound to be others, right? How we view "x" affects how we view "Y"? What are some you believe to be true?
Humorous And serious. What view drives another for you?

{Personally, I'd say how a person views BBQ (Mmmmm Delicious....) affects how said person views livestock (Mmmmm Future Delicious.....).}

And now the one you've all been waiting for... The one I most want to know about...
What does a person's view (child/adult/either/both) of their mother affect their view of?
[This part is something I need to be keenly aware of to take steps to manage for my children to avoid future problems in their life.]
Well bro, I actually think people have that backwards. My arguement is how we view God affects how we view everything else (not just mine, but other 'official' positions of some Theologians, PhD's, ext...). That said, I do realize people use their surrounding to try and understand God as well. (Take creation stories for example...)

In light of these, I suppose having a 'good' view of God helps our view of everything else, or a 'good' view of everything else may help our view of God. The problem is that many don't have 'good' view, but rather draw from very negative and painful examples which fall short of the glory of God. (Pretty common...)

So, perhaps instead of impressing solely what we've experienced on God, we should try to experience God and impress Him on what our experiences have been. I realize this is easier said than done, but isn't most of life? You climb a mountain on movement at a time, or create a symphony with notes. It's strange how complicated things seem less you when you simply try eagerly to do them (not in all cases, obviously, but more often than not).

Anyway, I'm getting on a bit of a tangent, so I'll digress...

I agree that how we view one things has direct and indirect effects on how we view another. I would caution everyone, however, that correlation is not the same as causation. Just because two things are related or connected in some way, doesn't mean one is creating the other. That said, what is the cause of how you view something...anything? Think about it.

There are many (assuming you mean views, SeatBelt), I believe to be true. Take 'truth' itself, for example. I believe in something called 'absolute truth' opposed to 'relative truth'. The idea (or view) of absolute truth is rather black and white. It's true or it's false. It's right or it's wrong. This view struggles a bit, because there are many 'gray' areas in life. My argument is that we simply don't know enough about those areas to distinguish them. For example, take the image of a stream. At first, the water may be very clear and distinguishable from the bed (dirt, rocks, bottom, ext) of the stream. If something stirs up the sediment at the bottom; however, the water is muddied, and harder to see separately the sediment.
They are still separate things (on many levels), but our ability to distinguish them becomes virtually blocked.

Relative truth would argue that what is true for one does not hold true for another, or that truth can be speculated based on situation. What is true for one situation does not hold true for another, and so on. While I do see and understand the thinking/experience behind this, I more or less reject the idea. I believe in governing dynamics (another view) that exist behind everything. (This is different from 'fate' or predestination which I also reject.) Anyway, I'll stop there before this becomes a small book instead of a post, but I love to think and converse with others over such matters. (...call me a philosopher...lol)

As for humorous I hear you on the meat! I mean, have they tried black Angus steak before?! Deliciousness= Very Yes!

...and as for views of the mother...well, I've heard it said (in psychological basis) that the way a man (boy) treats and views his mother is the same way he'll one day treat/view his wife. I'm not sure this is entirely accurate, but I have seen some evidence in behavior to validate it. There's more to discuss than this, obviously, but I should probably quit before the post gets too long for most people to feel like reading...
 
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Powemm

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I was in church had a loving family, but I still didn't see god . I knew he was around , but with much better people then me .
I mean who was I ? I always thought god forgot about me.. Upon closer examination , it was the exact view I had of my adoptive father .. well when I decided to get into a real relationship with God all those views changed.. I began seeing as god sees me and pretty much tipsy turvied my whole world around ..,for the better
 

AsifinPassing

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*_* My typos are almost a thing to be marveled...anyway...

I'm both sorry and glad to hear that Powemm! It's no fun to have those times, but then when God uses them...well, it does change us for the better! As the old Chinese saying goes:

"The flower which blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all."