can a woman propose to a guy to be her boyfriend. is it biblical

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cloud

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im a serious type of person and very choosy for a partner. (for the reason that i dont want to end up my single life to a wrong guy)

theres one guy i know. he's my friend but not that close. everyone knew that he is praying for me. i dont know if i like him or just a flaterring feelings.

*i dont want to be the first to tell how i feel bec. what i know is that was a guy's job.
*i hope you guys understand.
*very confused.
*no one to talk about this.
 
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GreenNnice

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I think, your title should be:

"Can a woman ask a man to be her boyfriend?"


'Propose' is a heavy word, for sure, in English, anyway, I think.
LOL, I think 'ask' in this context is a heavy word, too. The guy should follow the Lord and ask the girl out, I think, this is how God intended. The girl can get hurt, too, easy, I think, when she becomes aggressive. And, word it any which way you want but if YOU ask out a guy, it's being aggressive , I think.

The Lord leads. :)
 

maxwel

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Cloud,

What to do, or say, really depends on the culture you live in.

I think people from other countries would mean well, but give you very poor advice for your country, lol.

There are lots of wise Christians in the Filipino Forum area; I'm sure they could give you some good advice.
They're all very nice people.

: )
 
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Jorina

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Dear Cloud :) Must be hard for you to be not knowing whether you should ask him or you should wait for him to ask you. My first reaction is that you should wait for him to ask you; thats the way i'd like it to happen i suppose. But why? If he is to afraid to ask you or to unsure about himself or whatever reason there is for him not to ask you to become his girlfriend. I think you should ask the Lord about it. If you really cant wait much longer that is. If you have the strenght and the patience to wait, please wait untill the boy/guy/man asks you. But if you really feel like you cant wait anymore, then pray to God if He'll let you know about what you've got to do. He knows. And if you keep thinking that you should ask him to be your boyfriend, then do it. But be honest to yourself. He might say no. You have to realise that. If it happens, ask him why. Trust in the Lord, 'cause He's your Guide on the paths of life. God knows you and He loves you. For ever and always.

My answer in short: Pray to God; He always knows what to do.

May God bless you Cloud, and everyone around you. :)
 
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cloud

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how about waiting and praying for 7 years?
 
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Jorina

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Maybe you shouldnt concentrate so much on praying about asking this guy or not, instead of asking the Lord if He'd want to make clear to you what His plan is with your life. This focusing on 1 thing YOU want from the Lord could stop you from seeing what THE LORD wants from/for you.


Its something i have to remind myself about every single day..
 
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cloud

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thanks btw,
 

CatHerder

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Every relationship is different and what may be appropriate in one may not be appropriate in another regarding roles, leadership, and what that looks like in the relationship. Past the initial "push," do you see this guy as someone you would have to keep prompting in some way?
 
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...once you identify mutual interest --- why on earth should it matter? ...
 
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im a serious type of person and very choosy for a partner. (for the reason that i dont want to end up my single life to a wrong guy)

theres one guy i know. he's my friend but not that close. everyone knew that he is praying for me. i dont know if i like him or just a flaterring feelings.

*i dont want to be the first to tell how i feel bec. what i know is that was a guy's job.
*i hope you guys understand.
*very confused.
*no one to talk about this.
...if you are not sure, then there cant be much there...There is nothing worse than someone procrastinating trying to work out whether they want someone or not. I steer clear of such scenarios myself.

...The person and you should be overwhelmed with each other wanting to communicate at any given moment...
 

presidente

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I don't think you should propose marriage to him. If you like him, maybe you can drop hints, or if that fails, let a mutual friend you both know let him know that you like him. That's very middle-schoolish around here, but sometimes us guys are pretty clueless when trying to figure out if a man likes you. If he isn't interested, don't pursue him.
 
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Jullianna

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"can a woman propose to a guy to be her boyfriend. is it biblical?"

I cannot find any scriptures indicating that it is wrong to ask a guy to be your boyfriend :)

I found these scriptures about the man doing the looking/finding:

He who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtains favor from the Lord. Proverbs 18:22

An excellent wife who can find? She is far more precious than jewels. The heart of her husband trusts in her, and he will have no lack of gain. She does him good, and not harm, all the days of her life. Proverbs 31

“When a man takes a wife and marries her, if then she finds no favor in his eyes because he has found some indecency in her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce and puts it in her hand and sends her out of his house, and she departs out of his house, and if she goes and becomes another man's wife, and the latter man hates her and writes her a certificate of divorce and puts it in her hand and sends her out of his house, or if the latter man dies, who took her to be his wife, then her former husband, who sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after she has been defiled, for that is an abomination before the Lord. And you shall not bring sin upon the land that the Lord your God is giving you for an inheritance. “When a man is newly married, he shall not go out with the army or be liable for any other public duty. He shall be free at home one year to be happy with his wife whom he has taken. Deuteronomy 24:1-5


Incidents of a woman seeking a husband in the Bible: Ruth and Tamar (Genesis 28)

Different cultures may dictate who seeks whom, but since you ask what the biblical perspective was, I did a little searching. Hope this helps. :)
 
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Shouryu

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Actually, the bible doesn't really discuss dating at all. Courting isn't really talked about; just marriage. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, but it's hard to draw biblical guidelines when the topic isn't discussed. Boaz didn't date Ruth. Ruth subtly made a gesture, and Boaz straight up took her as a wife.

Now, personally, I have hard time believing that Jacob hung around for 7 years and never once flirted with Rachel. That chick HAD to know the ol' trickster had his eye on her. Did they date? Did he court her? I suspect something had to be going on. I figure she probably wasn't too happy when her dad pulled the prank on the Jacob after the seven years was up. ^_-
 
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Jullianna

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I did not say Ruth dated Boaz. I said that she was a woman who was seeking a husband.
 
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Shouryu

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I did not say Ruth dated Boaz. I said that she was a woman who was seeking a husband.
I wasn't saying that YOU said she was, Jules. I was just using Ruth and Boaz as an example to make my point, just as you did.
 

presidente

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Ruth had a sort of claim to Boaz. She didn't have the order of succession quite right, but she had a right to expect her late husband's nearest relative to marry her since he hadn't had an heir.

Boyfriends and dating aren't mentioned in the Bible. I read where one blogger argued that the boyfriend was invented in the late 1800's, and that it served to fulfill social and emotional needs that should be fulfilled by a husband. So a woman could put off marriage and still have this need met. Over time, many women actually started having sex with their boyfriends, and going through a succession of them, until they finally found some sucker they could push to 'man-up' and marry her promiscuous self. It was kind of cynical view of things, but there does seem to be some truth to it.

I'm not saying it's a sin to date or have a boyfriend/girlfriend (opposite gender of course), but we need to realize it's something fairly recent in our culture and things don't have to be done that way. Dating can also create a lot of opportunities for sexual temptation. The Song of Solomon says not to awaken love until it's proper time. A lot of the stuff dating couples do (kissing, long embraces, or more extreme stuff) awakens physical love that would better be reserved for marriage. Bonding hormones are released which makes breakups worse. People who go through a succession of breakups can have fears about being rejected and trust issues. And our culture pushes all this on teens at an age way before we expect them to marry, with schools having dances that promote romance at a young age.

If someone is going to date, it should be to find a marriage partner. Some people just find someone to be with until someone better comes along, or just to be with someone. Dating long before marriage is possible opens a lot of doors to temptation, a long window of time during which to be tempted physically. If you do date and your potential partner isn't interested in marriage, run away or just bump that person out into the 'friend zone' fast. You don't need to get emotionally entangled with a time waster.
 
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Jullianna

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Oh, ok, Shouryu. I thought you misunderstood what I said since I brought her up. :)

Good pointe, presidente. Tamar had a legal claim in this area as well, as the child (weird, huh?) she wanted to marry was the brother of her deceased husband. Shoots that age difference thing all to pieces.

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Does something not being in the Bible make that thing wrong? Like what we call "dating" (which has many definitions..some similar to betrothal)? Seems like if it was a wrong thing God would have addressed it. He is not One to leave doubt.
 

CatHerder

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Oh, ok, Shouryu. I thought you misunderstood what I said since I brought her up. :)

Good pointe, presidente. Tamar had a legal claim in this area as well, as the child (weird, huh?) she wanted to marry was the brother of her deceased husband. Shoots that age difference thing all to pieces.

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Does something not being in the Bible make that thing wrong? Like what we call "dating" (which has many definitions..some similar to betrothal)? Seems like if it was a wrong thing God would have addressed it. He is not One to leave doubt.
so......is Tamar the first recorded "cougar?"
 
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Shouryu

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so......is Tamar the first recorded "cougar?"
Hard to gauge. It was common for men to take wives who were significantly younger than themselves (remember, women have a limited childbearing age range and men do not). It's very possible that Judah's first son (I'm too lazy to go look up names) was say, 35, and Tamar was say, 16. Then Onan might have been 32, and then the third son that Judah had pledged to give to Tamar maybe, 30. Tamar still would have been younger. When she tricked Judah into seeding his own offspring through her, you figure Judah had to have been at least 4 decades older than her, perhaps more. The value of a woman in Isreal's early days wasn't simply companionship: it was their ability to prolong the father's line. This is why Rachel, although she was love more than Leah, felt valued less...because in her society, she wasn't giving Jacob children, and was not fulfilling that role.

(I know it's rather degrading. I didn't say I agree with it, I'm just saying how it was.)

Since none of Judah's sons were going to produce offspring to carry on Judah's line, Tamar acted both rashly and shrewdly to ensure her worth in her society, ensuring that she carried Judah's line forward, which was what was expected when she married his first son. She had a limited timeframe, as a child-bearing woman, so she took advantage of the fact that Judah's child-producing capabilities had no expiration date. So, I'm of the mind set that she was very much not a cougar, in fact, quite the opposite. If Judah's last son was indeed younger than her, probably not by much. Current western society tends to label women who are significantly older than the men they chase as cougars...usually a 20-30 year swing. I would think Tamar would have acted a little faster in tricking Judah if she were that close to menopause.

(Considering Boaz, David, and eventually Christ are sprung from the line of Judah, her little scheme worked out for all of us. ^_^ )
 
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Jullianna

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LOL Apparently so, Catherder :)

Genesis 38:

[SUP]11 [/SUP]Judah then said to his daughter-in-law Tamar, “Live as a widow in your father’s household until my son Shelah grows up.” For he thought, “He may die too, just like his brothers.” So Tamar went to live in her father’s household.
 
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