Is Pornography a Deal-Breaker for You?

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seoulsearch

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Hello Everybody,

As you can see, I'm in a mode where I have some questions floating around in my head that I hope other people might want to discuss as well.

Have any of you been running into this: you meet someone, and of course, it could be a man or woman (keep in mind though, I can only write from a woman's perspective) and they seem like an awesome person of God... They talk boldly about their faith, they speak earnestly about God's roles for men and women, especially within marriage (man as the provider, women in the more domestic role and submissive, etc.)... and then... you find out they are having a very difficult time with pornography. Or maybe it's not even a so-called addiction yet, but just a "casual curiosity", so they might say.

Would this be something that would cause you to lose interest? I see Christian bookshelves nowadays filled with stories of marriages, ministries, careers, etc. torn apart because of porn...

I know so many women (again, I apologize, but I can only speak from a female point of view), Christian and not, who put up with it because they say, "That's just how guys are."

Is it totally unrealistic to hope for someone who ISN'T bound to this kind of chain?

I have found personally that if you ask God to show you a person's heart, He will (and I always ask that my heart be shown as well, because I feel I have nothing to hide--and in my experience, God won't do it in an embarrassing, everyone-is-going-to-know way.)

Long story short--I was dating someone once, and stopped over at their house (he lived with his Mom) unannounced one day... and there on his desk... was a three-inch stack of "pictures" he's printed out from the internet... and they all featured Asian women. Being Asian myself, I was especially appalled by this and felt completely stabbed in the heart. I felt like nothing more than some kind of fetish object and curiosity to him. And for some reason, I felt completely ashamed of who I was.

Stupidly, I hung on for a while (because kids were involved and I thought I could help them) because I was trying to "be understanding." He would buy children's Bibles for me as gifts and say, "This is great, now you can read this to my kids."

Yes, I do want to be compassionate. But no, I don't want to be in a relationship that involves sexuality with with others in any form, which is what I personally view pornography to be.

Anyway... aside from all of that...

If you meet someone who's into porn (seeing as you can find it in so many forms--I have, unfortunately, been exposed to some of the animated things out there and think they're 100 times worse than the "regular" varieties), how will you react (or how have you reacted) and what will you do (or what have you done)?

Or will you just let it go, figuring God is still working on them, or "boys will be boys"?
 

J0Y

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I just wanna say..................................
PORN is not just a problem for boys! :O
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I really hope no-one is shocked by this!!! The truth is though, (I work casually at a book/stationery/magazine store) the highest selling paperbacks for woman are - MILLS AND BOON. Soppy romantic....yes....but there are ones about erotic love there too....porn for chix!!
ALSO, magazines for teen-twenties all focus on relationship issues, sex issues, positions and more erotic stories.......sense the theme here?

See my point in this is this: while girls are not usually (however some do!) view porn in the same way as men, woman still have their versions of the same thing! Woman need the emotional attachment to gain the same satisfaction which is why today's market is literally SATURATED with love stories to woo the girl and and get the true sense of her knight in shining armour!!! (in the most amourous erotic way possible) False as this perception may be it creates fantasies in the heads of woman in similar ways to men!

So, yeah....sorry Kim, not trying to hyjack your thread, but this could be a potential issue we may confront in ANY relationship, male or female.
 
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It's no more unrealistic than wanting to marry a virgin or someone who doesn't drink alcohol.
 

seoulsearch

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Very cool thought, MahogonySnail...

JOY--your post made me think of something important as well--we women also have to do our part in getting rid of any books, stories, and unrealistic ideas of men and romanticized relationships (we have to stop thinking it happens like in the movies!)

As much as I adored Wesley in The Princess Bride (I'm sounding old here... ha...) I don't expect some guy to follow me around saying, "As you wish." :)

Though there are some days it would be nice. (Just kidding!)
 
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Leilaii425

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There are certain things i do not tolerate in a relationship and that is one of them, looking at pornography. I do not accept the excuse of boys will be boys. I used to be apart of these other forums and they were only for women. One of the topics was, would you let your husband look at or watch pornography. I was thinking.. thats ridiculas of course no one would! I was shocked to see how many women allow their husbands to do that. The majorty of them said yes, they would. I started to ask alot of them why they would let their husbands do that. The answer i got the most was.... boys will be boys, thats just something men do, theres nothing i can do about it no matter how much i dont like it.
 
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Here's another question, what if the guy is trying to stop looking at porn and doing everything he can to stop looking at it?
 
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Leilaii425

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Here's another question, what if the guy is trying to stop looking at porn and doing everything he can to stop looking at it?

define trying???
 
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dustyzafu

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Here's another question, what if the guy is trying to stop looking at porn and doing everything he can to stop looking at it?
Then you're dealing with a porn addict, probably an eventual sexual criminal. "Everything" is a lot and if it doesn't work, the guy is in a bad place.

Most people, when they say they're doing "everything they can," mean they're gritting their teeth and trying a couple of things like deleting favorite pages or installing a porn blocker. The point, though, is that it's everything they can do. Success is not always a matter of just trying as hard as you can, but maybe asking for help or advice, especially if you're with somebody.
 
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Well I haven't looked at in 4 weeks. I'm asking God to help me out more to not look at it. I'm asking other people to pray for me about it. I would try one of the porn blockers, but if I wanted to look bad enough then I could figure my way around it. So that wouldn't work. Hopefully the last time I looked at it 4 weeks ago will be last time looking.

btw, this is what I mean by everything in my case. :p
 
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Leilaii425

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Well I haven't looked at in 4 weeks. I'm asking God to help me out more to not look at it. I'm asking other people to pray for me about it. I would try one of the porn blockers, but if I wanted to look bad enough then I could figure my way around it. So that wouldn't work. Hopefully the last time I looked at it 4 weeks ago will be last time looking.

btw, this is what I mean by everything in my case. :p

www.settingcaptivesfree.com its a free website and you get a mentor to help you out with this stuff
 
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Leilaii425

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Then you're dealing with a porn addict, probably an eventual sexual criminal. "Everything" is a lot and if it doesn't work, the guy is in a bad place.

Most people, when they say they're doing "everything they can," mean they're gritting their teeth and trying a couple of things like deleting favorite pages or installing a porn blocker. The point, though, is that it's everything they can do. Success is not always a matter of just trying as hard as you can, but maybe asking for help or advice, especially if you're with somebody.

awesome post!! i totally agree,
 
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Matthew

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There are certain things i do not tolerate in a relationship and that is one of them, looking at pornography. I do not accept the excuse of boys will be boys.
I agree with you, I think the whole boys will be boys thing is a pretty thin excuse to justify making no effort to break a bad habit, it's not easy but if a relationship means as much to you as it should then the risk of jeopardising it over a few pictures is not really worth it.

If I was in a relationship I would do everything I could to put my partners mind at ease when it comes to an issue like this but in equal measure I'd rather not be stumbling across erotic novels either, so it is works both ways.
Many men fall into the habit of viewing porn when they are single and find it hard to break away when a relationship begins, so I don't think when you meet someone new it is a reason to run away, but it is something both people need to be absolutely certain they have dealt with before getting more serious, because I have seen friends relationships seriously damaged by porn and it can cause a lot of misery.
 
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Leilaii425

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That's the thing, I don't believe I can be completely free from it unless I do it without a safety net. Or atleast I won't feel completely free from it like that.

have you even tried the website???? and if your that bad off... get rid of your computer
 
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dustyzafu

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That's the thing, I don't believe I can be completely free from it unless I do it without a safety net. Or atleast I won't feel completely free from it like that.
That's pretty much the definition of letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. At the end of the day, the point is to have not watched porn, not to be a rugged individualist.
 
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Matthew

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That's the thing, I don't believe I can be completely free from it unless I do it without a safety net. Or atleast I won't feel completely free from it like that.
I understand what you mean, I sometimes don't feel like I've really accomplished something until I have done it 100% alone, but I don't think that really applies to fighting a porn problem.

You know something like this is daily, you will never beat it in the sense that the urge to see porn will never go away completely, your sex drive ensures that, so you do whatever you need to do to get through each day feeling like you can still get through the next one, having a support system can help and in the end you are still choosing to view it or not view it and it will still be your accomplshment whether you involve other people or not.
 
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LinaLinaLina

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have you even tried the website???? and if your that bad off... get rid of your computer
Like Caleb from Fireproof :) not easy to just get rid of it, but if that's what it takes...
 
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Well I haven't looked at in 4 weeks. I'm asking God to help me out more to not look at it. I'm asking other people to pray for me about it. I would try one of the porn blockers, but if I wanted to look bad enough then I could figure my way around it. So that wouldn't work. Hopefully the last time I looked at it 4 weeks ago will be last time looking.

btw, this is what I mean by everything in my case. :p
If you haven't been doing it long, then your cold turkey method might work. But if you've been at this for some time, you will need something a lot more than blocking software. You may need to find something that "turns you off." I know someone who had to go through the same thing. It was on and off for a couple years but eventually, he needed two things: 1) prayer and strength from God and 2) the thing that turned him off. For him, it was prison rape. He read up on it and found that it was so disgusting and inhumane that it killed the "desire" inside of him.

Whatever happens, kudos to you for recognizing that you have this problem and for trying hard to stop. If it's any comfort, addictions are notoriously known for one thing: they stick with you and are extremely hard to get rid of. People make the solutions sound so easy but I say, you got through 4 weeks without succumbing to an addiction - good job! Keep it up and don't forget, you'll be in my prayers!
 
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Leilaii425

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Like Caleb from Fireproof :) not easy to just get rid of it, but if that's what it takes...

thats not actually what i was thinking of when i typed it, but yes, When you really want to be free from something, sometimes you must go to extreme mesures, but all of this i dont know, i cant do it unless this this and this happens or i cant do it until i have this or that.. Doesnt sound like you want it bad enough to be free. I had an addiction for ten years. I finally had to get to the point where i literally ran stuff over in my to get rid of certain things, i went to 12 step programs was constantly in the word of god, and did the settingcaptivesfree website, and i can say whom the father sets free is free indeed!
 
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If you haven't been doing it long, then your cold turkey method might work. But if you've been at this for some time, you will need something a lot more than blocking software. You may need to find something that "turns you off." I know someone who had to go through the same thing. It was on and off for a couple years but eventually, he needed two things: 1) prayer and strength from God and 2) the thing that turned him off. For him, it was prison rape. He read up on it and found that it was so disgusting and inhumane that it killed the "desire" inside of him.

Whatever happens, kudos to you for recognizing that you have this problem and for trying hard to stop. If it's any comfort, addictions are notoriously known for one thing: they stick with you and are extremely hard to get rid of. People make the solutions sound so easy but I say, you got through 4 weeks without succumbing to an addiction - good job! Keep it up and don't forget, you'll be in my prayers!
Actually, I used to look every day pretty much. Though that was back in like 7th or 8th grade. But yeah, I pretty wanted to stop looking at it once I found out the damage it can cause. And thanks for praying for me. ^_^ Also I think God made it easier for me not look maybe sometime in the last week or 2. I'm starting to not miss looking at it as much as I used too.