Sticks N Stones....Really, Really, Big Stones

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Jullianna

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Again, this thread was NOT written against/for one gender or another. Please keep it that way. :) It's something all of us need to keep in mind.

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Proverbs 12:18 There is one whose rash words are like sword thrusts, but the tongue of the wise brings healing.

Proverbs 15:1 A soft answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger.

Proverbs 18:21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue, and those who love it will eat its fruits.

Proverbs 15:4 A gentle tongue is a tree of life, but perverseness in it breaks the spirit.

James 3:5 So also the tongue is a small member, yet it boasts of great things. How great a forest is set ablaze by such a small fire!

Psalm 64:3 Who whet their tongues like swords, who aim bitter words like arrows

Proverbs 16:24 Gracious words are like a honeycomb, sweetness to the soul and health to the body.

ONE FOR THE GUYS:
1 Peter 3:7-12 Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel, since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered. Finally, all of you, have unity of mind, sympathy, brotherly love, a tender heart, and a humble mind. Do not repay evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary, bless, for to this you were called, that you may obtain a blessing. For “Whoever desires to love life and see good days, let him keep his tongue from evil and his lips from speaking deceit; let him turn away from evil and do good; let him seek peace and pursue it.

ONE FOR THE LADIES:
Proverbs 21:19 It is better to live in a desert land than with a quarrelsome and fretful woman.
(Betcha didn't think I'd include that one, huh? ;) Fair is fair is fair.)

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Characteristics of Verbal Abuse

1. Verbal abuse is hurtful and usually attacks the nature and abilities of the partner. Over time, the partner may begin to believe that there is something wrong with him/her or his/her abilities. He/She may come to feel that he/she is the problem, rather than his/her partner.
2. Verbal abuse may be overt (through angry outbursts and name- calling) or covert (involving very subtle comments, even something that approaches brainwashing). Overt verbal abuse is usually blaming and accusatory, and consequently confusing to the partner. Covert verbal abuse, which is hidden aggression, is even more confusing to the partner. Its aim is to control him/her without his/her knowing.
3. Verbal abuse is manipulative and controlling. Even disparaging comments may be voiced in an extremely sincere and concerned way. But the goal is to control and manipulate.
4. Verbal abuse is insidious. The partner’s self-esteem gradually diminishes, usually without him/her realizing it. He/She may consciously or unconsciously try to change his/her behavior so as not to upset the abuser.
5. Verbal abuse is unpredictable. In fact, unpredictability is one of the most significant characteristics of verbal abuse. The partner is stunned, shocked, and thrown off balance by his/her mate’s sarcasm, angry jab, put-down, or hurtful comment.
6. Verbal abuse is not a side issue. It is the issue in the relationship. When a couple is having an argument about a real issue, the issue can be resolved. In a verbally abusive relationship, there is no specific conflict. The issue is the abuse, and this issue is not resolved. There is no closure.
7. Verbal abuse expresses a double message. There is incongruence between the way the abuser speaks and his/her real feelings. For example, he/she may sound very sincere and honest while he/she is telling his/her partner what is wrong with him/her.
8. Verbal abuse usually escalates, increasing in intensity, frequency, and variety. The verbal abuse may begin with put-downs disguised as jokes. Later other forms might surface. Sometimes the verbal abuse may escalate into physical abuse, starting with “accidental” shoves, pushes, and bumps.


If you are already in a relationship, please keep this in mind. If you are having serious problems that never seem to be resolved, please take a good close look at this issue. If you have baggage or anger issues from prior relationships, please give yourself time to address this issue in your life/let healing take place before you permit it to carry on to your next.
 

Misty77

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Thank you for starting this thread. I wish I would have understood this when I was married because I may have actually left him years before he finally left me.
 
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Jullianna

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Thank you for starting this thread. I wish I would have understood this when I was married because I may have actually left him years before he finally left me.
I pray healing for you. Complete healing. I pray too that no one will ever see this past pain and/or vulnerability in you as an opportunity to repeat the process. You are far too precious for that, Sister. :)

(I SO wanted to type kenthomas's "Thister" here. :D That still quacks me up.)
 

buckets

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Proverbs 21:19
can we be sure this wasn't meant to read a dessert land? ;D us girls are kinda flawless
okay I kid I kid

This is seriously a great post :) important to remembers how bad emotional abuse is
 
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MissCris

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Thanks for posting that, Jullianna. It's...I...it was something I needed to read.
 
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Jullianna

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Hugs, Cristen. I know you are going through a difficult time. We love you. :)
 
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people can be mean to me all they want, i am used to it. it don't bother me one bit
 
Mar 22, 2013
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Indiana
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*pats wisebeardman onna head* Not while I'm around, Brother :)
like I said it don't bother me one bit, really doubt anyone could come up with anything mean to me that I have not heard a dozen times already in my life. to me its about like hearing the weatherman say rain or snow. just words.
 
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Jullianna

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like I said it don't bother me one bit, really doubt anyone could come up with anything mean to me that I have not heard a dozen times already in my life. to me its about like hearing the weatherman say rain or snow. just words.
I'm pretty much the same way with strangers, especially when I'm working. I'm sure you have been called pretty much every possible name as well. :) No big deal... It is just words to me then and I usually have my handy dandy LE compartmentalization "off" switch on when I'm on the clock.

But, when in a relationship with someone (or a close friend/family member), it's quite different. What they say and think of us matters, you know? That's why it hurts. It's not the words themselves, but the break in intimacy with that person...if that makes sense. If those breaks last too long, the relationship dies a very painful death.
 
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Well me and my family have never really gotten along well anyway, so any bad things they say dont bother me one bit ether.
never had a relationship,girl,wife so no idea with that, and quite honestly I am so numb to words I doubt it would really bother me ether.
 
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Jullianna

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Well me and my family have never really gotten along well anyway, so any bad things they say dont bother me one bit ether.
never had a relationship,girl,wife so no idea with that, and quite honestly I am so numb to words I doubt it would really bother me ether.
With all of my heart I pray the day comes that the loving words of some amazing lady will melt that wall for you. :) Will pray about the family thing too. Hope you feel like family here. :)
 
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FireWire

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I'm sure I've heard it all too wisebeardman

From being told my dna should never enter the gene pool to "I don't like your smile" to being told to "eff off" last time I was in a cell group that was at the pastors house.

Then there's the name calling under their breath.

Yet woman think they're better then men. That's the power of sin but thankfully love easily overpowers sin.
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah

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If you have grown up in an environment where you yourself been verbally/ physically (because your right, it always escalates) abused and you get into a relationship where the same thing is happening. You don't recognize it, you don't even know it's happening. That type of behavior is normal to you.
 
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rainin

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Being a person who has been abused both physically and verbally, I can say that verbal abuse is in some ways much worse than the physical. The physical scars have healed long ago....the words still ring in my head.
 
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Donkeyfish07

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People need to be more responsible with themselves when it comes to verbal abuse. It's something that can only continue if you allow it. I seriously doubt we can ever stop inconsiderate people from ever trying to use words to hurt people, no matter how much awareness is raised over it......but if you don't allow anyone to speak to you that way and just give them the cold shoulder if they don't show some respect you at least preserve your own self-respect in the process. I see it all the time, gender smender, it goes both ways.....both men and women letting their "significant other" talk down to them and belittle them. Make them feel like crap and they pour their heart and soul into making the other person happy when the other party doesn't have a smidgeon of respect for all the effort being made.


Over the years I've met lots of really good kind hearted people that let themselves get caught up in situations like that. I bet you see a lot of that in your line of work Jules.
 
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ServantStrike

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Verbal abuse in any form is unacceptable. For the Christian, it should never escape from our mouths, although it may on occasion come out in anger, if it's continually finding utterance, it's a very bad sign. It's a sign we aren't letting the Holy Spirit do the redemptive work it does best.

I cannot even allow myself to think harsh language in my head. If I do, it will come out at some point, and it may come out in ways that hurt those around me. That is not showing the love of Christ.

Proverbs 12

[SUP]18 [/SUP]There is that speaketh like the piercings of a sword: but the tongue of the wise is health.

Matthew 5
[SUP]43 [/SUP]Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
[SUP]44 [/SUP]But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
[SUP]45 [/SUP]That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
[SUP]46 [/SUP]For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

James 1
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:
[SUP]20 [/SUP]For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.
 
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Ugly

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People need to be more responsible with themselves when it comes to verbal abuse. It's something that can only continue if you allow it. I seriously doubt we can ever stop inconsiderate people from ever trying to use words to hurt people, no matter how much awareness is raised over it......but if you don't allow anyone to speak to you that way and just give them the cold shoulder if they don't show some respect you at least preserve your own self-respect in the process. I see it all the time, gender smender, it goes both ways.....both men and women letting their "significant other" talk down to them and belittle them. Make them feel like crap and they pour their heart and soul into making the other person happy when the other party doesn't have a smidgeon of respect for all the effort being made.


Over the years I've met lots of really good kind hearted people that let themselves get caught up in situations like that. I bet you see a lot of that in your line of work Jules.
Its not as simple as all that. Abusers seek out people who will be compliant and are easily victimized. Often because they are raised being mistreated so when the verbal abuse kicks in they are accustomed to the mistreatment and may not even realize it. Or already feel they don't deserve better.
Also verbal abusers are relentless in their attacks. Its not usually a case of a cold shoulder being effective. Especially within a marriage. Even women that stand up against the abuse eventually become so worn down by how unending the attacks are they begin to become so broken in spirit they just give up and give in. But since the majority of these people have such compliant and people pleasing personalities that it would take a lot of active training by someone, over years, to get them to the point they are well taught and reinforced that its ok to speak up. So its not as simple as just cold shouldering.
 
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Donkeyfish07

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Its not as simple as all that. Abusers seek out people who will be compliant and are easily victimized. Often because they are raised being mistreated so when the verbal abuse kicks in they are accustomed to the mistreatment and may not even realize it. Or already feel they don't deserve better.
Also verbal abusers are relentless in their attacks. Its not usually a case of a cold shoulder being effective. Especially within a marriage. Even women that stand up against the abuse eventually become so worn down by how unending the attacks are they begin to become so broken in spirit they just give up and give in. But since the majority of these people have such compliant and people pleasing personalities that it would take a lot of active training by someone, over years, to get them to the point they are well taught and reinforced that its ok to speak up. So its not as simple as just cold shouldering.
I agree with most of that but it really is that simple. Draw a line in the sand when someone oversteps their bounds and totally shut them out/cut them off if they don't cut it out after you've put your foot down. There's nothing healthy about letting someone like that have a prominent position in your life.

I do understand this is not easy for people who habitually let people walk all over them but it's all they really need to do. "Easier said than done" for sure because self-respect is something that takes time to develop. If you don't stick up for yourself, who will?