The hardest part of being a christian (what's hardest for you?)

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zeroturbulence

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What do you think is the hardest part of being a christian for you?

Is it believing in a God you can't physically see, praying for your enemies (if anyone's actually done it, I haven't been able to), resisting temptation, forgiving those who hurt you, staying in faith through tough times, accepting God's will when something bad happens, etc.? What is it? (you can pick more than one if you want)

If you can give an example or story of something that was very difficult for you, please do.
 
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Mastersman

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For me it is having patience with people who have been saved for many years, have set under preaching and teaching for years and still don't seem to grasp that Jesus meant for us to read His Word and conform our lives to it
 
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Not downloading free music and movies off the internet. *sigh*
 

T_Laurich

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Me... I don't mean for the answer to be cliche'... But its the only real answer...

the hardest part is getting over my own 'flesh' or temptations...
 

Liamson

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I grew up going to different churches, but they were mostly light Charismatic churches. (foursquare, assembly, pentacostal) But as I got older my dad quit going to church and kind of unplugged from life. My mother changed churches pretty often and went to progressively more Charismatic churches. Churches with rolling on the floor, drooling, trances, catchers, shoving, ridiculous tongues, laughing, convulsing, and sprinting around the sanctuary. I mean, we are talking about some Benny Hinn dark lord of the Sith type stuff.

When my mother had a series of Mental Breakdowns, she going to a really crazy church and they were doing some of the weirdest stuff I've ever seen. And whatever my mom said people just went with it. She would wrap herself in the curtains and say things like, she was the Woman who rides the beast in Revelation. She sold everything we owned and bought rice with it, because the Chinese were invading in her dreams.

But the scary thing for me was the amount of support she was getting from churches and pastors who were believing her and enabling her to completely lose her mind. It was either that or they avoided her completely. It was chaos, shame, pandemonium, terror, absurd and unbelievable, from wall to wall in my life.


At that point whatever reason I had to believe vaporized. I was 12-ish and I was scared but, I felt like the whole enchilada was make believe. I felt like Christianity was sham. I felt like no one could give me any real answers to my questions. Everything was either Sunday School or just because or complete malarky.

I told my mom that she was faking her condition for everyone's attention. (still a sore subject)

Finally she was put into a mental hospital. And she's had episodes like this again but, we know who to call and how to deal with it now. Its also been many many years since she's had one, so she might be okay.

I went to church with my neighbors, who attended a "Normal" church. It felt like an Oasis. I played church until I was old enough to move out and away for Good. I didn't look back.

Until the first girl I ever loved visited me with her family. She was a Christian, and I confessed my undying love for her at disneyworld. The next two weeks was truly magical but, at the end of it, she had to go home. So she broke my heart but, she left me with the realization that I was missing God in my life.


But it wasn't until I was like 20 that I turned back to God. I found myself at the bottom of the sea on a Submarine with no friends, no one to talk to and no escape. My ex girlfriend at the time had sent me a box of things to help me while I was at sea. A Bible, a journal, some worship CD's and a bunch of little nick nacks to occupy my time. If it wasn't for God, I would have cracked.


I realized that the only thing I needed to survive in this life was God. I could go anywhere and do anything and He would never leave me alone. (whether I wanted Him to or not) He had always been there for me, always teaching me, calling me, leading me. For as much as I listened, I failed. But He is Lord and He is my God.
 
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hmmz - being led by the Spirit vs my over active mind

sometimes believing that God actually loves me
 

DuchessAimee

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I tend to think of God as a boss, and me getting saved was signing a contract. It allows God to do whatever he wishes, whenever he wishes. My side of the contract says that I do his work, love him, and follow him wherever he leads.


I struggle seeing him as father. I've never had one and had to raise myself. So seeing him as a parent is difficult.
 
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Wow, sir...
Excuse me for editing, but I have lived a life like this (I thought I was alone)

I grew up going to different churches, (...)

At that point whatever reason I had to believe vaporized.(...) (God helped me through my ex-wife when that happened to me)

(...) Finally she was put into a mental hospital. (...) (Mine also went)

(...)

(...) If it wasn't for God, I would have cracked. (...) I think you have shown us all that is the key we have to work on: Avoid being cracked by or for this world.


I realized that the only thing I needed to survive in this life was God. I could go anywhere and do anything and He would never leave me alone. (whether I wanted Him to or not) He had always been there for me, always teaching me, calling me, leading me. For as much as I listened, I failed. But He is Lord and He is my God.
Thank you, sir! He made you stronger.
 

TheAristocat

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I tend to think of God as a boss, and me getting saved was signing a contract. It allows God to do whatever he wishes, whenever he wishes. My side of the contract says that I do his work, love him, and follow him wherever he leads.


I struggle seeing him as father. I've never had one and had to raise myself. So seeing him as a parent is difficult.
I've heard that different people perceive God in the same way that they perceive their biological father. Just another way divorce will end up hurting society - one's faith. It might be difficult to have a Father if your father wasn't there. Maybe an emotionally absent father rubbed off on your image of God.

For me, I have a tendency to view him as strict but loving. Having a sense of humor, but also trying to push me to be emotionally strong. A bit random perhaps.
 
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psychomom

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for me, the hardest thing has been trusting God....believing Him. :(
(personal illustration:)
many years ago, when our children were small, we went through a few years of deep financial troubles.

i'm ashamed to say i accused God of ignoring our plight. yet He was faithful!
time and again He provided work for my husband when it appeared there would be none.
He used the gifts of others to provide for our needs. (v-e-r-y humbling. :) )
we never went without food, clothing, a home, heat, etc. although there were a few times it was an 11th hour kinda thing. :)

now, i know if money can fix it, it's not a problem. lol
but as real problems have happened in my life, i look back at God's faithfulness during those times and ask myself,
"do i trust You, Lord?"

day by day He makes me realize His way is perfect and He is the Only trustworthy One.
i'm still learning, but His faithfulness is unfailing. ♥


 

TheAristocat

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I wonder if he treats everyone differently according to the purpose they will serve. He has to prepare some for one thing and others for another, right? So it makes sense we'd also have different perceptions of him in spite of what the Bible says. Or maybe I'm wrong.
 

Pipp

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Romans 7 says it well...


14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.


16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.


17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.


18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.


19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.


20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.


21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.


22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:


23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.


24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?


25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
 
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This thread is very challenging for me! I wish I could write it in Spanish and, if I could, I'm sure I cannot write well all the ideas I had, those misconceptions I dealt with, and the trouble I have to believe the Bible: It is like saying "I saw two UFOs. I saw them at a night with Monica, some few years ago and, many people won't believe me unless they had the same livid experience I had with that Colombian woman".

One think I often tell Him -as believer- is: "Let the people experience YOU personally or, at least, by dreams, not daydreaming about YOU". I often tell HIM: If you want to be known, by some of YOUR deeds, it is OK having inspired the Bible and those writers, but THIS is still a SECOND HAND experience. YOU blogged through them, but people need their own personal logs WITH YOU, GOD.

A hard thing, for me, was understanding GOD is not that person we see BOSSY, SELFISH or so SELF-CENTERED as we HUMAN BEINGS ARE.

It was hard, for me, to understand (and believe) Jesus was not GOD, HIS Father, as those Catholic people taught me with their other man-made teachings and rules. It is a common cliché in Christianity (but this up to GOD to teach or deal with the wrong things we are blind to see).

It is hard to "theorize" about God's issues when He is not present to say: You are wrong (or correct) in those things you are saying (or interpreting) for ME. So we believe by faith, by those things the Bible taught us and by personal experience. I wish YOU GOD TO KEEP ON TEACHING US DIRECTLY.

It was in the GRAN SABANA (Bolivar state) that I heard a voice saying: "Quédate tranquilo". I don't know who was, but I think He could be Jesus, God or any of His angels (but not my voice). I misinterpreted that moment and I thought it was my Grannie who spoke (with a masculine voice, by the way) but I was saved -somehow- from dying crashed down in the depth while I was driving alone in a jeep, in 1988.

I don say: "I'm saved" because this an everyday subject. I could fall from HIS grace, just by sinning willingly more than my everyday sins. So I don't agree with some of your views, because I believe on the OT and in Jesus' teachings, essentially. If any additional teaching is far from the OT and Jesus', I consider them as man-made teaching. I don't care being called and APOSTLE, because JESUS is greater than any other man and GOD is all beyond my own known limits of understanding.

Wow! This thread is a challenge. More is living by faith (Heb 11) They HAD much more things -and PERSONAL EXPERIENCE- to live the way they lived.

And none were a cliché!
 
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kenthomas27

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I grew up going to different churches, but they were mostly light Charismatic churches. (foursquare, assembly, pentacostal) But as I got older my dad quit going to church and kind of unplugged from life. My mother changed churches pretty often and went to progressively more Charismatic churches. Churches with rolling on the floor, drooling, trances, catchers, shoving, ridiculous tongues, laughing, convulsing, and sprinting around the sanctuary. I mean, we are talking about some Benny Hinn dark lord of the Sith type stuff.

When my mother had a series of Mental Breakdowns, she going to a really crazy church and they were doing some of the weirdest stuff I've ever seen. And whatever my mom said people just went with it. She would wrap herself in the curtains and say things like, she was the Woman who rides the beast in Revelation. She sold everything we owned and bought rice with it, because the Chinese were invading in her dreams.

But the scary thing for me was the amount of support she was getting from churches and pastors who were believing her and enabling her to completely lose her mind. It was either that or they avoided her completely. It was chaos, shame, pandemonium, terror, absurd and unbelievable, from wall to wall in my life.


At that point whatever reason I had to believe vaporized. I was 12-ish and I was scared but, I felt like the whole enchilada was make believe. I felt like Christianity was sham. I felt like no one could give me any real answers to my questions. Everything was either Sunday School or just because or complete malarky.

I told my mom that she was faking her condition for everyone's attention. (still a sore subject)

Finally she was put into a mental hospital. And she's had episodes like this again but, we know who to call and how to deal with it now. Its also been many many years since she's had one, so she might be okay.

I went to church with my neighbors, who attended a "Normal" church. It felt like an Oasis. I played church until I was old enough to move out and away for Good. I didn't look back.

Until the first girl I ever loved visited me with her family. She was a Christian, and I confessed my undying love for her at disneyworld. The next two weeks was truly magical but, at the end of it, she had to go home. So she broke my heart but, she left me with the realization that I was missing God in my life.


But it wasn't until I was like 20 that I turned back to God. I found myself at the bottom of the sea on a Submarine with no friends, no one to talk to and no escape. My ex girlfriend at the time had sent me a box of things to help me while I was at sea. A Bible, a journal, some worship CD's and a bunch of little nick nacks to occupy my time. If it wasn't for God, I would have cracked.


I realized that the only thing I needed to survive in this life was God. I could go anywhere and do anything and He would never leave me alone. (whether I wanted Him to or not) He had always been there for me, always teaching me, calling me, leading me. For as much as I listened, I failed. But He is Lord and He is my God.
What a great testimony. Beauty for ashes. In biblical times, it was custom during mourning or distressing times to lay in ashes so that sorrow can leach out into the pit. I always thought there was a certain beauty to that. The Hebrew word for ashes is epher and the word for beauty was pheer so simply a misplaced letter and breath from God to change that which was destroyed into that which had beauty.

My own greatest challenge is lack of belief in my own self! I'm not a smart man. I didn't do well in school and there's a lot of conceptions or notions that I don't grasp easily that might have to do with work or other things. I work hard - I've always had to supplement a regular job with another job of some kind - but not smart. So, naturally, if there is a biblical matter or financial matter or conversation relating to higher thinking, I'm not seen as the go-to person. It's hurtful because I can't help anybody- someone who needs direction or is seeking advice. I believe sometimes that I think deeply, but then realize my grasp of concepts is fairly underdeveloped. Ask me to move a refrigerator or fix something and I have you covered, but ask for spiritual guidance or deeper analytical thought and I'm just not prepared and I'm a little bit ashamed of that. I mean, if worldly intellect is folly to God and I can't even keep up with the world, then what must God think of me?

Anyway, it's just a thing. I look at it like I'm missing a leg or whatever - it's a challenge, but I'm not consumed. God gives tools to idiots and fools and last year I was able to help at a Make A Wish thing and a Habitat thing for a couple of families and I continue to have work and I'm keeping up with everything so I'm not for a minute ungrateful.
 

Pipp

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What a great testimony. Beauty for ashes. In biblical times, it was custom during mourning or distressing times to lay in ashes so that sorrow can leach out into the pit. I always thought there was a certain beauty to that. The Hebrew word for ashes is epher and the word for beauty was pheer so simply a misplaced letter and breath from God to change that which was destroyed into that which had beauty.

My own greatest challenge is lack of belief in my own self! I'm not a smart man. I didn't do well in school and there's a lot of conceptions or notions that I don't grasp easily that might have to do with work or other things. I work hard - I've always had to supplement a regular job with another job of some kind - but not smart. So, naturally, if there is a biblical matter or financial matter or conversation relating to higher thinking, I'm not seen as the go-to person. It's hurtful because I can't help anybody- someone who needs direction or is seeking advice. I believe sometimes that I think deeply, but then realize my grasp of concepts is fairly underdeveloped. Ask me to move a refrigerator or fix something and I have you covered, but ask for spiritual guidance or deeper analytical thought and I'm just not prepared and I'm a little bit ashamed of that. I mean, if worldly intellect is folly to God and I can't even keep up with the world, then what must God think of me?

Anyway, it's just a thing. I look at it like I'm missing a leg or whatever - it's a challenge, but I'm not consumed. God gives tools to idiots and fools and last year I was able to help at a Make A Wish thing and a Habitat thing for a couple of families and I continue to have work and I'm keeping up with everything so I'm not for a minute ungrateful.
Not to mention the countless times you've been a blessing to people here or cheered us up and made us laugh. :)
 
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I agree with ken thomas, Liamson posted a great testimony.

He knows best what it is looking for HIS TRUTH and searching below things that seemed to be true. He risked to be exposed and bogged down, by the way, but it is his life and views (which I identify as mine also, too). Most of the churches in Venezuela are like THOSE he mentioned, and I spent years trying to find one and THAT is INSIDE you, inside me, inside US.
 
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persNickety

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Trusting God. My skeptism/ cynicism when it comes to prayers being answered.
 
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BananaPie

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By the grace of God, the Lord Jesus has placed a claim on my heart; my mind belongs to God.

Therefore, the challenge in the Christian walk I face is believing everybody else is "normal" like me. It's becoming harder to stand-up for godliness because the "normal" frequency is heading in the direction of libertines & polarized Trolls. ...and that knowledge saddens me.
:(
 
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Jullianna

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My greatest frustrations as a believer:

- Attacks against our faith. Some of it happens because the world simply can't handle the Truth, but there are times when believers (or those who claim to be believers) do/say unwise things that provoke false accusations. A very damaging incident occurred within my family recently because of this. I am still praying and seeking God's direction regarding the matter.

Seeing this happen has caused me to take a closer look at my own conduct, both my actions and reactions. I need to remember that I represent the Kingdom of God now, not myself, and should be conducting myself accordingly.

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- Spending more time than I should trying to figure out things for myself. I should release things to Him far more quickly and easily than I do.

I know that He wants control over every single aspect of my life. I know He can be trusted with it. I know He loves me. I know He has brought me through so much and will continue to do so. I need to stop allowing myself to be distracted and/or stubborn and let.things.go. It's the only way to peace and healing.

Brings to mind a song I sang with my mom when I was a child:

Well I guess I only fooled myself
When I said I surrender all
For in a little corner of my heart
There was a kingdom that did not fall.
So I stand here now before His throne
With my crumbled kingdom walls
For if You're not Lord of everything
Then You're not Lord at all.

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