~~~ Accountability ~~~

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BananaPie

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The purpose of this thread is for exploring, expanding and exercising:

a) the meaning of Christian Accountability from a biblical perspective;

b) the benefits (value) of being Accountable in and outside the household of the Lord (including online);

c) personal evaluation in discerning accountability to our Lord Jesus.

Also for consideration is to explore tangible reasons why folks resist accountability, and how to overcome that type of "caramelized" sin.

Okie doke, you know the drill: keep it PG funny, on topic and intellectually peachy to the glory of God. :)

 
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1still_waters

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I think because it's hard to distinguish the fine line between being held accountable by a church and leaders, and having your life run by a controlling cult. Most want to error on the side of not being in a cult, so they avoid any appearance of accountability to a church and the leadership. It takes a LOT of TRUST to give someone that much influence over your life.
 
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IloveyouGod

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And at the same time the bible told us to obey and respect our leaders.

I like that thread, but I need to think to make sure I don't miss anything. :eek:
 

lil_christian

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The purpose of this thread is for exploring, expanding and exercising:

a) the meaning of Christian Accountability from a biblical perspective;

b) the benefits (value) of being Accountable in and outside the household of the Lord (including online);

c) personal evaluation in discerning accountability to our Lord Jesus.

Also for consideration is to explore tangible reasons why folks resist accountability, and how to overcome that type of "caramelized" sin.

Okie doke, you know the drill: keep it PG funny, on topic and intellectually peachy to the glory of God. :)

I'm a bit tired right now, too tired for deep thinking... but I'll be back.
 
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BananaPie

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Once again, your keen observation is accurate in my dictionary, Stilly. :)
Yes, I didn't bring up the "cult control" in hopes that ya'll would.

As for respecting your leaders, I agree with you, ILoveyouGod, yet even in respecting one's Elders, we are to be careful not to "idolize" them as if they were movie stars of some sort.

Accountability included balance within a the holy trajectory, always giving glory to God.

...and about accountability, I need to be accountable to the promise I made to my quiver full of blessing that I'd grill burgers for them today. Lord willing, I'll catch up with ya'll later. :)

 
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BananaPie

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Okay, what do you think "accountability" means?

(I'm thinking about spouses need to be accountable to each other, but long before marriage, accountability should be built into the friendship, right?)


How about being answerable to others through the scope of integrity? (Is "answerable" a word?)

Or perhaps accountability means being predictable that others can depend upon you to be reliable...

Some examples of accountable "buddies" in the Bible are:
Adam & Eve
David & Nathan
Naomi & Ruth
the Lord Jesus and "the three" (Peter, James & John),
Joseph & Pharaoh,
Paul & Luke, etc.
 
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Donkeyfish07

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I'll let other people hold me accountable if I need to be rebuked for something (And it's happened several times, I was in the wrong and it was pointed out, I'm thankful for it). As far as other people trying to hold me accountable for something that isn't something that needs to be repented of.....nope :p. There are times where I run into the situation where the other person thinks it's wrong but I don't. Those situations, unless the Holy Spirit is convicting me......I just hold my ground. I try not to needlessly offend people, but if someone is needlessly offended, that's not something I'm concerned about.
 

seoulsearch

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Hi Banana,

Great topic... I've been thinking about it all day and wanted to post, but had to let the full thought sink in a little. :) Sorry if this gets to be a little long, but you know me. :)

I can only speak for myself, but I've found if I am serious about "getting closer" to God or "going higher" with Him, He holds me more and more accountable. Anyone who is looking to go further in their relationship with God is going to have to brace him or herself for that accountability. I am always leary of those who set themselves up as Biblical or spiritual authorities but offer no proof of their accountability--or worse yet, seem to refuse correction or the perspective of anyone disagreeing with them, always claiming that their stance is solid because they "stand on the Word of God."

If you won't ask others to hold you accountable, God Himself will. David, as king, felt he could sleep with another man's wife, have him killed, and scrub the crime scene clean. God thought otherwise. Moses, believing he was acting in righteous anger, thought no one was looking when he killed an Egyptian taskmaster. But God knew. And eventually, Moses had to flee everything and everyone he had ever known because of it.

Now of course, I'm not saying I am anywhere near the faith of these Biblical giants. But, I can tell you, God holds me accountable. I've had times when I actively sought out mentors who were not afraid to speak out to me. They were usually kind, but sometimes the rebuke was harsh. I've always said I'd rather deal with an ugly truth than a pretty lie.

And then there are times God knew no one was looking except Him and He drove me to accountability anyway. One day when I was about 35, something hit me--an anxiety that wouldn't let me sit down or concentrate on anything, let alone sleep--and I knew what it was. God was convicting me of things I thought I'd "gotten away with" WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER AND IN MY EARLY 20's, and told me I had to call my parents and tell them. Oh. My. Goodness. Some of these events were 17 years in the past!!! But God knew. I. Was. Petrified. And my parents had lived thousands of miles away for years!!!

The things I had to tell them, though I never had a wild side, were still subjects no one would ever want to confess to two conservative, waited-til-they-got married Christians who always emphasized that we (their kids) were to do the same. I had some things I to confess to them that I did not want to discuss at all. God didn't make me go into any gory details, but rather, it was more like, "Mom, Dad... You know you always taught me X? Well, I made a mistake..." Like David and Moses, I tried to whitewash and excuse all my sins. (See, I can type this publicly now because God already made me confess and repent... so if my parents ever read this... they already know!)

Now for some, that's not a big deal, but for me... If you would have given me a choice, I'd have rather walked through fire. Two or three times. In fact, I felt like I always was. One of the things God has given me as I've grown closer to Him is a conscience that sears the middle of my heart like a white-hot poker. But I earnestly repented to my parents for not only sinning, but also for letting them down because I knew I had been raised differently.

I also had a suicide attempt several years ago, and my parents and pastors were first to arrive at the hospital. I'll never forget my Dad's anguished sighs and the clear worry in my pastors' voices. All these years later, God told me I had to tell them all I was sorry for putting them through that.

I am at a point now where I'm almost afraid to date because I already know "If something goes wrong," I'd have to call (a good friend of mine who acts as my dating accountability mentor) and my parents and 'fess up. I know most will balk at the idea of being a grown adult and confessing their "personal business" to their parents but in my case, it's what God leads me to do. It's my own Accountability 101 (or in this case, x2!!)

I'm in a stage of my life where I am cautiously looking for additional mentors/accountability partners, preferably those with more life experience, wisdom, and knowledge than I have. In some ways, I'm scared to death!!! But, the greatest gift God has given me through all of this is that those who held me accountable didn't belittle me, didn't mock my mistakes, and most importantly, did not reject me. The first thing my Dad said was, "Well, what did you learn from it all?"

It's HARD. Terrifying, even. But. God is good. And I have often felt that God has told me, "Because you are choosing to be honest with others, I make sure others are honest with you." I might be the last to know. But over and over again, God has somehow let me know things I couldn't have otherwise known (the person will often confess to me on their own or God will send someone to tell me) in order to allow me to move on with my own life.
 
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BananaPie

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...I'm in a stage of my life where I am cautiously looking for additional mentors/accountability partners, preferably those with more life experience, wisdom, and knowledge than I have. In some ways, I'm scared to death!!! But, the greatest gift God has given me through all of this is that those who held me accountable didn't belittle me, didn't mock my mistakes, and most importantly, did not reject me. The first thing my Dad said was, "Well, what did you learn from it all?" ...
Goodness, Kim!! What a treasure God has raised in you, dear sister!

You've melted my heart because you continue to trust our Savior regardless of those sharp turns in life, and you continue to esteem the saints by way of accountability. I can just hug you in the joy of the Lord, dear sister! :D

You've been a blessing to me. Thank you for your sincerity in these forums. :)
 
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BananaPie

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...There are times where I run into the situation where the other person thinks it's wrong but I don't. Those situations, unless the Holy Spirit is convicting me......I just hold my ground. I try not to needlessly offend people, but if someone is needlessly offended, that's not something I'm concerned about.
​Indeed. Totally agree with you there. Accountability is within the scope of what is the Holy Spirit of God saying to us, and how are we responding.

You bring up a good point regarding "I hold my ground." We are to never be ashamed to hold our ground in the training the Holy Spirit has equipped us with. That's part of being accountable to the faith and the biblical truths God embeds upon our mind, our heart.

Let's never forget the parable of the Pearl of Great Price. :)
 
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BananaPie

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So, what have you done today to be accountable to the holy faith we have in Jesus Christ?
How are you answerable to the Holy Spirit of God?

Today, a few of you were in my prayers (MissCris, Misty, Lil's Mom, Captain, Stilly & the Admin-Mod Team) as well as circumstances I'm going through here locally were brought before the Lord.

As the Lord grants this day to unfold, how transparent would you be with those locally? Would you be able to naturally talk to those locally about what you say here on CC?

I've never had an issue to express with those in my circles what I express here on CC. Some co-workers, all my children and 3 saints from church are aware of who is "BananaPie." They are my cross-references.

Our identity should always be the Lord Jesus Christ, and that's accountability for ya. :)
 
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Jullianna

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We are accountable to God for who we are day in/day out (fruit, fruit, fruit, fruit, fruit). If we can stand before Him in loving submission and repentance, we can stand before anyone.
We are accountable for every word that proceeds out of our mouths (and keyboards).
We are accountable for the harm we do to others, even in ignorance.
We are even accountable for the good we know to do and do not do. (James 4:17)
 
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BananaPie

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When we practice accountability, we never need to remember anything because the life we live in Christ becomes our testimony over the years.

Yes, we'll have our "egregious dump" moments, but that's precisely when we need to be transparent the most because the Lord Jesus was already on display for us by ignominious bound.

Accountability is what bonds us to the Cross at Gethsemane. We either have "picked up the cross and follow" Jesus, or we are deceiving ourselves.

There is godly joy going the way of the cross, by the way; there is joy in being held accountable. :)
 
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BananaPie

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BTW, when we learn about others' shortcomings, mental issues, and anxieties, do we diligently pray to the Lord to deliver such person into health as well as to reveal to us our transgressions, our mental issues, that we may repent right there on the spot?

Do we pray Psalm 51:10 what God may grant us mercy and count us among the redeemed when the Lord Jesus return?

Dear ones,

Accountability is a very precious behavior in the sight of the Lord. Accountability is about having a one-on-one relationship with the Lord Jesus on a daily basis.

This doesn't mean you need to report to Stilly or BananaPie the rest of your life. LOL. Okay, report only to Oncefallen.
:p j/k

We should always be wholly represented by Jesus Christ regardless where we exist (online or IRL). We should avoid ill advice of bleeding others into fright, or seeding mistrust among us.

We should always bring our thoughts captive to the foot of the cross where we are safe, and bring as many "whosoever wills to come" with you where we may all be accountable in the same faith and with the same God Savior Jesus Christ.

...okay, now everybody report at 0400 hours.
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BananaPie

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Accountability is neither controlling somebody else nor allowing to be controlled. Quite the opposite.

Being answerable to ethical values carries a dimension into yielding one's mind to the control of the Holy Spirit of God for the renewing of one's existence.

It's when we are under the control of the Holy Spirit of God that we know we can be held accountable to anybody anywhere. Accountability brings us freedom by which we don't feel
pressure from others, needing their approval, for the Lord Himself vouches for us.

As it is written, "...you are a letter of Christ, ministered by us, written not with ink, but by the Spirit of the living God..." (2 Corinthians 3:3). :)




 
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chimechn

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Accountability is a big important word for us Christians..I believe in its principles, I believe in strong, community like fellowship of believers who are accountable to each other because they love each other...every caring fellowship should be accountable to one another....
 

rachelsedge

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It's very difficult for me to trust someone and be completely real with them about issues. I very rarely ask for prayer. I don't like opening up. There are a few in my life who I know I can open up to, and sometimes do, but a lot of times I don't and then I wonder why I struggle so much. :rolleyes:

The thing about accountability is that you have to trust that person. Trust that they won't condemn you, that they only have your well-being in mind, trust that they won't use those things against you later to tear you down.

At the end of the day, though I may "wrestle" with God at times, I know He loves me deeply (though it's often hard for me to grasp that concept alone) and would never hurt me the way people have/do in both a spiritual and emotional sense. I, too, am flawed and human, my main point is that with accountability, I, personally, am careful with who I entrust that to. Perhaps that's a flaw, but I'm just being honest that that is where I am right now. Maybe when I'm "stronger", and I know I am growing already, I will be able to be accountable to any Christian, but for now,because of past events, I don't feel that I can be.
 
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BananaPie

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A godly person is a human being unable to walk on water, yet wants to be held accountable to obey Jesus who did walk on water. :)