Treatment of Children with Down Syndrome and Other Diabilities Poll

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Disability Poll.

  • Yes, pregnant mothers should be forced to abort babies with severe disabilities, such as down syndro

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No, pregnant mothers should not be forced to abort babies with severe disabilities such as down synd

    Votes: 11 100.0%
  • Yes, children with severe disabilities should be put on the "Slow Code."

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No, children with severe disabilities should not be put on the "slow code."

    Votes: 8 72.7%
  • Yes, children with down syndrome or othere disabilities should be allowed transplants

    Votes: 11 100.0%
  • No, children with down syndrom or other disabilities should not be allowed organ transplants.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    11
  • Poll closed .

violakat

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I'm doing a survey to find out people's opinions in regards to different issues that those with Down Syndrome and other types of severe disabilities face. I'll explain later in another post as to why.

Basically, my questions are:
Do you believe that a pregnant woman should be forced to abort her baby if it's highly suspected of having Down Syndrome or any other severe disability?
Do you believe that a severally disabled child should be put on the slow code? (The Slow Code is basically when the appearance of treatment is offered, but admitted so slowly that it does nothing for the patient.)
Do you believe that a Down Syndrome child should be allowed organ transplants?
 
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persNickety

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#2
I work with adults who have disabilities, at the house that i work, none have downs. One has cerebral palsy, another has double cortex syndrome, and another guy has autism and bad anxiety. I notice that each of them has their own personality, own laugh, own 'voice' (even though the two guys are fairly non-verbal). They relate to you differently. I found its neat to play off their personalities and humor, connect with them.

The guy with C.P. had a seizure in December, he was really scared and confused, i was there with him and spoke to him so that he knew he was OK. I connected right then and there. We had something in common, not just the seizures, but the strong emotion of real fear that is felt by every human being. They have emotions and thoughts like everyone else. They desire (for the most part) to connect with other people, to feel love and happiness.

Life is a gift, we don't know anyone's full purpose yet. I don't think I could take that away. Everyone's existence is drops in water, we are all effected by someone's existence.
 

Pipp

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#3
I also work with adult "children" with disabilities. They suffer many things from mild mental retardation to explosive anger disorders to Autism but the thing they have in common with everyone else is they want to belong and feel loved and be treated like a "normal" person. My girls are 26 and 23 and their brother who doesn't have an aid , but is still with us all the time since I work in their house is 24... The girls love to sing and shop and plant and grow gardens... the brother plays the guitar like nobodies business ... lol he has been working his job ( with a little help from his job coach) for 4 years and has been employee of the month multiple times and he now has a girlfriend who has Downs . She works at Chik-Fil-A and is a very fashionable little lady... I bring up all this to say that like PersNickety said life is a gift and it was given to them for a reason.
 
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MissCris

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All I know on this topic is that the few people I've known who have Down's syndrome...their smiles and joy are more contagious and touching than anyone else's. It would be wrong to deprive this broken world of so much light and innocence.
 
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iTOREtheSKY

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#5
If I were ever blessed enough to have a child & they were born with downs,autism or some other disability & any doctor or governmental agency suggested that the mother & I abort that child or somehow brand that child with a label that would suggest the value of his/her life was less than that of a "normal healthy" child...I quite possibly would kick that persons buns if they were within arms reach.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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#6
Are you saying there are people out there who actually want the government to be able to force people to kill their unborn children? wow, satan is working hard in the world.

While I understand it can be very, very difficult for the parents to bring up a child with many needs that are different from that of "the average" child, I don't see it's any of the governments business.

as for the slow treatment, am not quite sure I follow. What is it about?
 

Nautilus

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Jun 29, 2012
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I think the wording on some of your poll questions is a bit misconstrued at best. Like the abortion one, I would never force any to ever have to get an abortion. BUt I may support the providing the option if thats what they decide. As far as the other two I didnt even realize it was a thing that there was a slow code or issues with transplants.
 
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MissCris

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#8
I think the wording on some of your poll questions is a bit misconstrued at best. Like the abortion one, I would never force any to ever have to get an abortion. BUt I may support the providing the option if thats what they decide. As far as the other two I didnt even realize it was a thing that there was a slow code or issues with transplants.
I think she used the word "forced" because that's what she wants to know about; should parents who are having a baby with Down's syndrome be Forced to abort that baby? Should they even be allowed the choice of having a "sick" child?
Obviously at this point in our country abortions are a woman's...option...*cringe*...but should that "option" ever be forced based on the health of the child?
 
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1still_waters

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#9
These people are humans created in the image of God. They are not to be destroyed or treated as less. They carry the very image of their creator.

What some lack in physical or mental abilities, they make up for in their ability to love.
Anyone who would argue for destroying them, may in fact have the most severe "disability" of all.
The disability of not seeing the image of God in a person.
 

violakat

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Apr 23, 2014
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I think the wording on some of your poll questions is a bit misconstrued at best. Like the abortion one, I would never force any to ever have to get an abortion. BUt I may support the providing the option if thats what they decide. As far as the other two I didnt even realize it was a thing that there was a slow code or issues with transplants.
I specifically am using this word because back in the late 90's a friend of mine was nearly forced by doctors to abort her child, without even having all the tests results back. They assumed the child was down syndrome, missing a foot, and had an enlarged heart. When she refused, they then tried to force her to give up her rights to her child. Again she refused. Later, when the results came back, he was found to be perfectly normal, then they found the missing foot. And by the time he was born, his heart was normal. So yes, FORCED, is the word I'm using here. By the way, this wasn't just a one time thing, this was literally trying to pressure her, in about a month's time if I remember correctly.

Also, it seems like there are times when people are trying to use peer pressure to force women to abort their children. In the past I've ran across articles that criticizes women who carry their down syndrome child to birth. And while I'm not sure if anyone is trying to petition for automatic abortions, I would not be surprised.

Yesterday, I read an article about a family whose child has Trisomy 18, and they discovered that their child was being unofficially "slow-coded." We Thought Doctors Were Helping Our Daughter With Trisomy 18, But They Were Slowly Killing Her | LifeNews.com

While I don't know how true the above article is, I do know that the evidence of "slow-coding" can be seen in many people who struggle with severe illnesses. My brother, for example, has brittle diabetes as well as kidney failure. There have been times when we suspect that the health professionals having been trying to kill him, due to the neglect of medical he's received when he's been hospitalized. Things such as not being allowed food, or given food 2 to 3 hours to late, not giving insulin, forcing him to wait several days before removing blood clots which prevents him from having dialysis for nearly a week. (this is the most recent one, which I still don't understand why they would not send him to ER if that's what they suspected.)

Then, I ran across a link that took me to change.org, petitioning the government to change the law about children with down syndrome not being allowed organ transplants. Again, I don't know the legitimacy of this one, however I would not be surprised by it either. I'm including the link for the Facebook Page. https://www.facebook.com/TheyCallItDisabilitiesICalledItDownRightPerfect
 
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Very happy with the results I'm seeing here so far.

Having a 1.5 yr old nephew that has DS, who brings great joy to his parents', grandparents', aunt, and uncle(me), it brings tears to my eyes just to think that some people wouldn't value the life of such a person.

We were told early on that my nephew was going to be severely brain damaged and probably wouldn't ever walk or talk. He was born a month premature and did have a tough go. He wasn't expect to live.

Despite what technology said would happen, he is progressing well(though slow, as DS babies are slower). He has baffled his doctors.

He is very responsive and interactive. Eventually he will walk(he's trying) and talk(he's very vocal).

:)