This is my goodbye

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persNickety

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I am heartbroken. So many people on here are concerned with naming Obama as the anti-Christ, women needing to be this or that, ignoring everything outside our western lives, saying a small amen, then moving on. What I have seen cannot be unseen, it has enraged me fiercely. I have never wished God's wrath upon any people before, but I am today. To blot them out. Utterly destroy them. If that is a sin, God understands my heart. I lie here shake with rage. Wish for the End. I pray fiercely- intercession. Read through passages, but nothing comforts. As if nothing compares to this. Christ's words fall flat. Prayer fierce prayer. But I don't feel community here in agreeance to what it unspeakable. There are no words capable. Small Amen. NO!! THAT WILL NOT DO!
 
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INTJer

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Yeah, there is quite a bit of, if you don't agree with my obscure reading of a minor issue, you can't be saved. That and the games of pin-the-tail-on-the-Antichrist. I have never seen so many experts on why no one else but them can go to heaven.
 
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persNickety said:
I am heartbroken. So many people on here are concerned with naming Obama as the anti-Christ, women needing to be this or that, ignoring everything outside our western lives, saying a small amen, then moving on. What I have seen cannot be unseen, it has enraged me fiercely. I have never wished God's wrath upon any people before, but I am today. To blot them out. Utterly destroy them. If that is a sin, God understands my heart. I lie here shake with rage. Wish for the End. I pray fiercely- intercession. Read through passages, but nothing comforts. As if nothing compares to this. Christ's words fall flat. Prayer fierce prayer. But I don't feel community here in agreeance to what it unspeakable. There are no words capable. Small Amen. NO!! THAT WILL NOT DO!
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I am not sure why you are concerned about Obama. I am not and I live here. Obama is human and has to live in the world for his job. He does what he thinks is right. Of course we aren't all going to agree with the policies and statements he makes. We are all human and all humans make mistakes.
As far as God's wrath goes, we are called to love the unlovable as well as our neighbors. Anyway God's wrath is coming soon enough. Many will be cast into the fire then.
Have you thought about staying out of the threads that enrage you? I have to do that myself.
 
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It's not Obama. To clarify. It's the persecutions. Sorry. I've been writing about them on here quite a bit so I didn't reference them again. Please view my post in the prayer request forum. There are more graphic videos and pictures surfacing on the internet.
 
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lav

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i don't wish to see you go. i feel awful too, i just have some battles i'm facing that i start to lose if i get too swept away by the horrible things going on in the world. i don't know how this may sound, but i think this is/could be the beginning of things starting to get really hard for us believers. it's bad, and i care too. i wish you would stick around and see that it isn't that we all don't care, and have patience with us. i know i'm not a regular in the forums and don't think myself great or awful, just normal and average, but i would like to see you stay because i believe you have an awareness and presence that is beneficial. i understand if you need to go, but i've appreciated what you have to say.
 
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Richie_2uk

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persNickety said:
I am heartbroken. So many people on here are concerned with naming Obama as the anti-Christ, women needing to be this or that, ignoring everything outside our western lives, saying a small amen, then moving on. What I have seen cannot be unseen, it has enraged me fiercely. I have never wished God's wrath upon any people before, but I am today. To blot them out. Utterly destroy them. If that is a sin, God understands my heart. I lie here shake with rage. Wish for the End. I pray fiercely- intercession. Read through passages, but nothing comforts. As if nothing compares to this. Christ's words fall flat. Prayer fierce prayer. But I don't feel community here in agreeance to what it unspeakable. There are no words capable. Small Amen. NO!! THAT WILL NOT DO!
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You got to remember that this is a Multi Christian Chat room, so of course you are not going to get agreements, because its part of there religion, or faith's or beliefs. Rather wishing to blot people out, pray for them, we are all sinners no matter what we believe. So of course people are not going to side with your beliefs and thoughts. But Don't leave because of them. Leave because God has told you to.

Let God deal with them indevidually, let God be the judge. you just concentrate on your own journey with God. Never mind how people don't agree, or disagree, or live or who or what they believe in, the matter is down to what you believe in. and you live what you believe. God wants you to walk his path he has given you, not others. God will put someone in your path as you live for him. And the more you live for God? the more right people he will put before you, so you can share Gods love, and the true meaning of God, so you can share your live with God that you believe.

Let God change there lives, Let God deal with there sins, let God deal with everyone here and the world. But you concentrate on your own journey......... If you do feel you need to leave then leave because God has put it on your heart. Don't leave because of people. God bless
 
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persNickety said:
It's not Obama. To clarify. It's the persecutions. Sorry. I've been writing about them on here quite a bit so I didn't reference them again. Please view my post in the prayer request forum. There are more graphic videos and pictures surfacing on the internet.
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All that can be done about the persecutions is to pray. Remember God warns us in the bible that things will get worse before Christ returns. We need to stay steadfast in our faith and trust in God.
We live in a fallen world where sin is normal and mainstream. It is sad that others choose sin instead of Jesus Christ.
 
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Fish bait... I did not find that comical... At all... Quite demeaning actually.
 
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FireHeart

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F' off. I am talking about Christian children getting their bloody heads taking off by ISIS, Christian women being being raped, cut and having a cross shoved down her throat. You fool.
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My friend we are Christians we do not use such language, the very bieng of a true Christian is love. I dont want you to let your anger lead you down the wrong path and like I said in my message i want to help you to be a soldier of love.
Everyone please forgive the Op and pray for him/ her to be filled with a deep love I would be grateful
 
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persNickety said:
I am heartbroken. So many people on here are concerned with naming Obama as the anti-Christ, women needing to be this or that, ignoring everything outside our western lives, saying a small amen, then moving on. What I have seen cannot be unseen, it has enraged me fiercely. I have never wished God's wrath upon any people before, but I am today. To blot them out. Utterly destroy them. If that is a sin, God understands my heart. I lie here shake with rage. Wish for the End. I pray fiercely- intercession. Read through passages, but nothing comforts. As if nothing compares to this. Christ's words fall flat. Prayer fierce prayer. But I don't feel community here in agreeance to what it unspeakable. There are no words capable. Small Amen. NO!! THAT WILL NOT DO!
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I for one haven't been ignoring what's been going on in the middle east. I just read an article this morning about how ISIS stoned to death a woman and no one from the town had the heart to throw any stones, so ISIS members took it upon themselves. Her alleged 'crime' was adultery. And that was the second time this week that ISIS has stoned a woman to death (the other was just 26 yrs old, also for adultery). I also read about the beheadings and how they have kidnapped hundreds of women under the age of 35 and have taken them away for who knows what. Its amazing how no one there seems to have the courage to band together and fight these savages.

Even though I am aware of these things and I have in the past seen pictures of beheaded children - yes christian children beheaded by muslim extremists for being christian, I do not bring any attention to it here because this isn't the place for it even though it has disturbed my spirit greatly and I have prayed about it. I mean its ok to ask for prayer here but one should not expect everyone here to be up in arms discussing it.

If someone were to start a thread discussing such things it would probably lead to a lot of arguments and divisiveness among friends here.
Its not so much about ignorance or indifference, its more about not upsetting the upbeat spirit of the forum.

People come here for the comraderie and the lightheartedness of this forum. Just because we don't discuss disturbing subject matters doesn't mean that it doesn't weigh heavily on our hearts.

Oh and... please .. dont... go!!!!

that is all. :)
 
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lav

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My friend we are Christians we do not use such language, the very bieng of a true Christian is love. I dont want you to let your anger lead you down the wrong path and like I said in my message i want to help you to be a soldier of love.
Everyone please forgive the Op and pray for him/ her to be filled with a deep love I would be grateful
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what about the post Fishbait made ? that was inciting. maybe you should be praying for him instead. i don't find this post or yours loving or appropriate at all. you and Fishbait should take the planks out of your own eyes.

this is the kind of thing that triggers me. i mean, mentally and emotionally and spiritually and in my gut/bodily... on a cellular level... i can hardly blame persNickety for wanting to leave after seeing something like that, but i'd rather she stayed so we had at least some rational people here. after seeing this and so much trape in the bible discussion forum, i don't know if i want to stay.

look really closely at the language used in Fishbait's post. this is my message to both of you : we do NOT use such language !!!
 
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Richie_2uk

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FireHeart said:
My friend we are Christians we do not use such language, the very bieng of a true Christian is love. I dont want you to let your anger lead you down the wrong path and like I said in my message i want to help you to be a soldier of love.
Everyone please forgive the Op and pray for him/ her to be filled with a deep love I would be grateful
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Well with Careless Comments from people like fishbait won't help the matter. So maybe we should turn our prayers towards his mind and heart to show some love and care. Not a demeaning comment like that, not wonder people are feeling to leave.
 
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Richie_2uk

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lav said:
what about the post Fishbait made ? that was inciting. maybe you should be praying for him instead. i don't find that post or yours loving or appropriate at all. you and Fishbait should take the planks out of your own eyes.

this is the kind of thing that triggers me. i mean, mentally and emotionally... i can hardly blame persNickety for wanting to leave after seeing something like that, but i'd rather she stayed so we had at least some rational people here. after seeing this and so much trape in the bible discussion forum, i don't know if i want to stay.
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LIKES: Lav, I dont see the like button on your comments. But I agree
 
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Persnickety, I don't know if you will see this or not, but I have a hard time believing that there is any reaction someone could have to your prayer thread and the horrific persecution that is currently going on in Iraq that would be adequate to fulfill what you're looking for. I will be the first to admit that I have not been faithful in praying for these brothers and sisters in Christ even as I have been horrified by what I have been hearing, but I do feel convicted that I need to be.

But if I may, I believe the answer is absolutely not to wish ill upon others simply because their reaction doesn't suit you. You cannot see the hearts of the people on this site in a post or otherwise. I also have to believe that there have been times in your life when you have been apathetic towards an issue such as this. After all, Christians have always faced persecution at some level in some other country since we have been alive.

Blind raging about this is not going to do anything for anyone. I can't help but think that you are going to regret such an overreaction before long. You have an honorable heart for the afflicted, but being so incredibly wound up is not going to cause people to listen closer to you. While you may be hurting for these Iraqi brothers and sisters out of love, the way you speak about wishing God's wrath upon others is not loving. Your responses to albeit terrible posts in this thread indicate that your primary motive here is not love.

So let's be faithful to pray for them and for others who we know are presently facing persecution, and let's call others to join us in laboring for them in prayer, but let's do that in patience and love. None of us are perfect, and there are better ways to express urgency.

Just some things to think about. You'll be missed here.
 
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FireHeart

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lav said:
what about the post Fishbait made ? that was inciting. maybe you should be praying for him instead. i don't find that post or yours loving or appropriate at all. you and Fishbait should take the planks out of your own eyes.

this is the kind of thing that triggers me. i mean, mentally and emotionally... i can hardly blame persNickety for wanting to leave after seeing something like that, but i'd rather she stayed so we had at least some rational people here. after seeing this and so much trape in the bible discussion forum, i don't know if i want to stay.

look really closely at the language used in Fishbait's post. this is my message to both of you : we do NOT use such language !!!
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I never once said anything judgemental and as for fishbaits post I didnt approve of it but i knew he was going to be told anyways so I didnt say anything. i understand how things are here but as Christians we should try our best to be love in everything not let our anger control us. There was no need to attack me for showing my love for her i am concerned for her and gave my advice i in no way judged her.

Im sorry you were offended but please dont take your anger out on others
 
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Proof positive that people need to develop thicker skins.
 
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