Catholicism

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

blue_ladybug

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2014
70,869
9,601
113
Magenta, I don't see where he "took swipes" at you, "falsely accused" you OR "slammed you".. :confused:

All he seems to be asking for is, for people to treat others with respect in the chat rooms..

Wow, overreact much? It seems you have missed the point entirely, and slyly take swipes at me as if there is something wrong with my pointing out a few of the reasons why you may experience problems here. I was not judging you or vilifying people raised Catholic, but asking you how you present yourself on a protestant site, and wondering what you believe. If you are so delusional that you think you can present heretical beliefs without getting confronted by those who reject such beliefs, then you need to step back and reassess what you are doing here. I notice you refused to answer any of the questions. Should I read anything into that? I will go ahead and say you support at least some of the Catholic heresies, and inform you that you will continue to experience problems here as a result of that. I am trying to be helpful, but you may go ahead and slam me again while you pretend you simply want everyone to be treated with respect.
 
Apr 30, 2016
5,162
75
0
Wow, overreact much? It seems you have missed the point entirely, and slyly take swipes at me as if there is something wrong with my pointing out a few of the reasons why you may experience problems here. I was not judging you or vilifying people raised Catholic, but asking you how you present yourself on a protestant site, and wondering what you believe. If you are so delusional that you think you can present heretical beliefs without getting confronted by those who reject such beliefs, then you need to step back and reassess what you are doing here. I notice you refused to answer any of the questions. Should I read anything into that? I will go ahead and say you support at least some of the Catholic heresies, and inform you that you will continue to experience problems here as a result of that. I am trying to be helpful, but you may go ahead and slam me again while you pretend you simply want everyone to be treated with respect.
You do seem very upset Magenta - and very against the Catholic Church.

You keep repeating that Matt is presenting himself on a PROTESTANT site, and yet you take him to task for saying he is CATHOLIC and not CHRISTIAN.

Would you care to explain to us all exactly what a Christian is? Clue: It's in the word.

There are many here who are heretical if we're to understand what the word means.

Definition of heresy
plural heresies
1
a : adherence to a religious opinion contrary to church dogma (see dogma ) 2) They were accused of heresy.
b : denial of a revealed truth by a baptized member of the Roman Catholic Church
c : an opinion or doctrine contrary to church dogma
2
a : dissent or deviation from a dominant theory, opinion, or practice To disagree with the party leadership was heresy.
b : an opinion, doctrine, or practice contrary to the truth or to generally accepted beliefs or standards
our democratic heresy which holds that … truth is to be found by majority vote — M. W. Straight

(Merriam-Webster Dictionary)

Dissent or deviation from a dominant theory is one way of explaining it. This means that Calvinists are heretical since it is NOT the dominant theory found in the bible but has only come about in the last few hundred years by the declaration of ONE man.

Should they also be not welcomed on this site?
Anyone who believes that Jesus is their Savior and their Lord is a Christian. What doctrines they believe are irrelevant to their salvation.

Does your doctrine save you Magenta, or does Jesus save you?

The only doctrine I debate is Calvinism, and for a good reason. There are doctrine in the Catholic faith I do not agree with, but I cannot fault a person for following the Church of their choice and believing in the doctrine of that Church.

Oh, but would it be that we protestants could come to an Agreement on what every verse of the N.T. means!!
We each have our own idea, we're each litte theologians.

This is NOT what Jesus wanted. He wanted ONE Church, ONE body, ONE faith, ONE baptism.


Ephesians 4:1-6 New International Version (NIV)

Unity and Maturity in the Body of Christ
4 As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. 2 Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. 3 Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. 4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.


Christians were called heretics by the jews. Acts 24:14

Let's treat Catholics like our brothers in Christ, but who may not agree with our doctrine, as we do not agree with theirs.
 
Jan 27, 2015
2,690
367
83
Well to my knowledge most catholics don't read the bible much if at all. Combine that with the false doctrines they teach at the church alot more of them are conditioned to be deceived than non catholics. Without that biblical knowledge to discern the truth they are at risk
I grew up (read: was raised and schooled) Catholic and somewhere down the road, I got the idea that people weren't supposed to read the Bible, unless they were priests. I don't think I was ever taught that directly (I'm pretty sure a Catholic wouldn't actually tell someone not to read the Bible), but it was definitely what I saw. As a young kid, I don't remember seeing anyone reading the Bible except priests in Church...and kids pick up on stuff.
 

Demi777

Senior Member
Oct 13, 2014
6,877
1,949
113
Germany
Hmm I havent realised that this is a Protestant site.. As far as Ive seen this is a Christian site. And i dare to say there are Catholic Christians too
 

blue_ladybug

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2014
70,869
9,601
113
How can catholics be Christians when they don't believe what we do? And they practice what we don't..


Hmm I havent realised that this is a Protestant site.. As far as Ive seen this is a Christian site. And i dare to say there are Catholic Christians too
 
W

wwjd_kilden

Guest
How can catholics be Christians when they don't believe what we do? And they practice what we don't..
Do tell me then, what they believe? Do they reject Jesus as the risen son of God? No Catholic I ever met did that
 
Aug 16, 2016
2,184
62
0
Do tell me then, what they believe? Do they reject Jesus as the risen son of God? No Catholic I ever met did that
Even to this day some catholics bow down to statues as well as believe in the false doctrine of purgatory just to name a couple.
 

blue_ladybug

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2014
70,869
9,601
113
What Catholics do:


Pray to Mary to intercede on their behalf to Jesus.
Pray with rosaries.
Say hail Mary's.
Bow down to statues of Mary and the Pope.
Believe that Mary stayed a virgin all her life.

To name a few..

What Christians do NOT do:

Pray to Mary to intercede to Jesus on their behalf.
Pray with rosaries.
Say Hail Mary's.
Bow down to statues of Mary and the Pope.
Believe that Mary remained a virgin all her life.

Even unbelievers can know who Jesus is. Doesn't mean they accept Him. Catholics are not Christians..


Do tell me then, what they believe? Do they reject Jesus as the risen son of God? No Catholic I ever met did that
 

mailmandan

Senior Member
Apr 7, 2014
25,042
13,047
113
58
Do tell me then, what they believe? Do they reject Jesus as the risen son of God? No Catholic I ever met did that
Catholicism teaches that Jesus is the risen Son of God, but Catholicism perverts the gospel by "adding" works to it. It's not enough to believe that Jesus is the Son of God and that His death, burial and resurrection "happened." We must also trust exclusively in Christ's finished work redemption as the All-sufficient means of our salvation without adding works to it.
 
W

wwjd_kilden

Guest
Catholicism teaches that Jesus is the risen Son of God, but Catholicism perverts the gospel by "adding" works to it. It's not enough to believe that Jesus is the Son of God and that His death, burial and resurrection "happened." We must also trust exclusively in Christ's finished work redemption as the All-sufficient means of our salvation without adding works to it.
and? CC is filled with non- Catholics who share that view
 

blue_ladybug

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2014
70,869
9,601
113
Catholicism is a false, evil religion. Christianity is the one true religion.. Catholics also believe that the dead can hear us and answer our prayers.. But Christians know that is just a bunch of baloney.


and? CC is filled with non- Catholics who share that view
 
W

wwjd_kilden

Guest
Catholicism is a false, evil religion. Christianity is the one true religion.. Catholics also believe that the dead can hear us and answer our prayers.. But Christians know that is just a bunch of baloney.
That is a teaching I disagree with,
but is it worse than the protestant on CC who says they are Christians yet don't believe Jesus is God?
 

blue_ladybug

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2014
70,869
9,601
113
Obviously if they don't believe that Jesus is God, then they aren't real Christians.. But I've heard that *some* catholics don't think Jesus was fully divine, OR that God was His father. They think that couldn't possibly have happened.


That is a teaching I disagree with,
but is it worse than the protestant on CC who says they are Christians yet don't believe Jesus is God?
 
W

wwjd_kilden

Guest
Yet this thread is about Catholicism.
and THAT is my point.
This site is officially anti- catholic. (It has it's own stick against Catholic teaching), why is it not anti- "Jesus isn't God" as well? Are tags more important than the core of our belief?
 

blue_ladybug

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2014
70,869
9,601
113
This site tolerates catholic threads until they become too blasphemous, heretical and hostile..


and THAT is my point.
This site is officially anti- catholic. (It has it's own stick against Catholic teaching), why is it not anti- "Jesus isn't God" as well? Are tags more important than the core of our belief?
 

Demi777

Senior Member
Oct 13, 2014
6,877
1,949
113
Germany
I didnt say all Catholics are Christians lol Plus there are so many different kinds of catholics, theyre not all the same. So all in all there are Christians in the Catholic Church.


How can catholics be Christians when they don't believe what we do? And they practice what we don't..
 
Jan 27, 2015
2,690
367
83
and THAT is my point.
This site is officially anti- catholic. (It has it's own stick against Catholic teaching), why is it not anti- "Jesus isn't God" as well? Are tags more important than the core of our belief?
...but it is though. People who deny Jesus' divinity usually aren't here for long; they end up reported and banned. (At least, from what I've seen they do, but I could have missed something...)