Masturbation of the flesh. Is it a sin?

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Demi777 said:
Thanks for defending me but don't worry. He aint worth trying to convince of anything. He's just a legalist jumping to conclusions
I have better things to do. I have God to keep, things to study and to abstain from ppl who arent good for me.
The OP asked for opinions and because i dont suit the way this man here wants everyone to be, he goes ahead trying to provoke me...pretty weak if u ask me
Thats what satan did with Jesus and Jesus told him to get behind him. See the similarities?
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You wrote: Depends. Normally no it's not a sin but if it becomes an addiction it is

Nobody is trying to provoke you into anything other than possibly rethinking your position and changing it to a correct one.Obviously to have the belief you do on this subject you have chosen to disagree with the Bible, as your words are in direct conflict with the words of the Bible. Your "satan" comparison there is completely backwards. Satan was not offering Jesus godly advice as you are being offered here. Satan was not trying to help Jesus to agree with the Bible. You have taken a person asking you to rethink your position and change it for the better and just compared them to the devil. That is insane. The devil is the one controlling your position now. He is not interested in trying to help you to see where you are wrong and help you to agree with the Bible. Where did you get this idea that it is only a sin "if it becomes an addiction". You had to either get that from society or your own mind because that is not what the Bible says at all. The Bible says it is always a sin. Now, you are free to go on doing as you want. I merely have told you the truth.
 
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Waggles said:
YES it is a sin
it encourages lust and lewdness of the flesh
it endangers a person to pursue more substantial fornication
experiences
encourages the viewing of pornography

but above all it destroys the spirituality of being pure and chaste
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It is a sin if you indulge on it. but what if you masturbate because the doctor wants your sperm count? I don't think that it will be a sin to do that.
 
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loyaldisciple said:
You wrote: Depends. Normally no it's not a sin but if it becomes an addiction it is

Nobody is trying to provoke you into anything other than possibly rethinking your position and changing it to a correct one.Obviously to have the belief you do on this subject you have chosen to disagree with the Bible, as your words are in direct conflict with the words of the Bible. Your "satan" comparison there is completely backwards. Satan was not offering Jesus godly advice as you are being offered here. Satan was not trying to help Jesus to agree with the Bible. You have taken a person asking you to rethink your position and change it for the better and just compared them to the devil. That is insane. The devil is the one controlling your position now. He is not interested in trying to help you to see where you are wrong and help you to agree with the Bible. Where did you get this idea that it is only a sin "if it becomes an addiction". You had to either get that from society or your own mind because that is not what the Bible says at all. The Bible says it is always a sin. Now, you are free to go on doing as you want. I merely have told you the truth.
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Loyaldisciple, where does the bible say this?
 
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Didymous said:
Loyaldisciple, where does the bible say this?
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MATTHEW 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Now is what we are talking about here done out of lust or not ? I believe it is pretty obvious that it is so that makes it wrong. Also is it done for self-gratification or is it done to please God ? Another question I believe is very easy to discern. To me, all of this combined makes it extremely clear unto me that it is a sin. If you wish to disregard all of this in favor of your own belief then that is totally up to you.
 
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Never had to look at anyone to do it.
 
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Tommy379 said:
Never had to look at anyone to do it.
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Maybe not, but what is going through your mind ? What is going through your heart ? Looking is just one way lust can manifest itself. It can also manifest itself in thoughts.

If you really think about these things, I think you can see it is something God would not be in favor of.
 
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loyaldisciple said:
Maybe not, but what is going through your mind ? What is going through your heart ? Looking is just one way lust can manifest itself. It can also manifest itself in thoughts.
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What goes through my mind...... I have to go out in public, and can't do it with this thing staring at me.

Honest answer.
 
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Tommy379 said:
What goes through my mind...... I have to go out in public, and can't do it with this thing staring at me.

Honest answer.
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If you were a teenager that may sound normal. At 39 I find that a little difficult to believe. Are you sure you're not just making excuses here ? If not, maybe you have a unique kind of medical issue going on there.

Trust me, God has a way of taking care of that without you having to do it yourself.
 
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loyaldisciple said:
If you were a teenager that may sound normal. At 39 I find that a little difficult to believe. Are you sure you're not just making excuses here ? If not, maybe you have a unique kind of medical issue going on there.
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I'm a real man, living alone, and testosterone oozes from my pores. I eat animal flesh exclusively, and was made with perfect genetics to engage in combat, and breed with women.
 
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Tommy379 said:
I'm a real man, living alone, and testosterone oozes from my pores. I eat animal flesh exclusively, and was made with perfect genetics to engage in combat, and breed with women.
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Sounds like you need to FIND a woman then, and stop doin' that other. I wish you luck.
 
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loyaldisciple said:
Sounds like you need to FIND a woman then, and stop doin' that other. I wish you luck.
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Are you saying your physiology isn't working like this anymore? Maybe you should see a doctor.
 
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Tommy379 said:
Are you saying your physiology isn't working like this anymore? Maybe you should see a doctor.
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I didn't say anything about mine. We were talking about yours.
 
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Tommy379 said:
Mine is just fine. Nothing in the bible claims my reproductive health is supposed to decline with age.
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Well, I have news for you young man, it's going to. You just haven't seen it yet.
 
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The Greeks had a name for someone like Tommy- "Zeus."
 
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there are two thing maybe three I would not want someone to see me doing 1. using the restroom, 2. masterbaiting .

everytime this question comes up it leads more times then not to foolshness talk and perverted talk an mimes pictures etc..


the sad thing is many do this. And justfiy it , or suffer guilt. the flesh and the need to reproduce is placed into every man ans women unless there is a abnormal phiscial issue. it is the job of the church to instruct young men in placing that potency into the work of God and not onto themselves. .
 
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loyaldisciple said:
Well, I have news for you young man, it's going to. You just haven't seen it yet.
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Uh huh,what age was Abraham finally blessed with the birth of a son between him and his wife Sarah again?
Oh yeah,"100" God can do all things if he sees fit.
 
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