Christian Screamo Music?

[StMichaelTheArchangel]

Originally Posted by hislastwalk

If you'd take the time and read the lyrics, and learn who the band really is and what they stand for...like the band "For Today" or "In the Midst of Lions" and as for yhe chants.. Pagans have ritualistic chants too.. It's the purpose of the song, not the sound.

There is nothing pagan about chants and hymns, Paul the Apostle ordered us to use hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody to the Lord. Ephesians_5:19 "Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;"

When He spoke about singing hymns and chants, he was not talking about electric guitars, bass guitars, drums, and screaming lyrics. There were no such things in the 1st Century Church. Why is this so? Because there is no need to innovate and to add to anything else than what was commanded by the Holy Spirit through St Paul and the Apostles.

Do you obey the Scriptures? He spoke nothing of adding guitars and drums and screams to the hymns. They are not hymns when they are playing rock music, rock music comes from the jungles of Africa and is not of the Spirit of God. Click here.

Screamo want around back then. -.-

And actually, yes, pagans have hymns and chants. I use to be pagan I'm not an idiot.

I'm going to hell then I suppose, huh? (: by false teacher.

[StMichaelTheArchangel]

Originally Posted by hislastwalk

I'm going to hell then I suppose, huh? (: by false teacher.

Thats up to God, but you are surly not obeying Scripture.

Ephesians_5:19 "Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;"

[FrankensteinGirls]

Where in scripture does it say which instruments are not allowed? Did the lack of electricity possibly account for the lack of electric guitars? Probably.

He spoke nothing of not adding electric guitars or drums and bass as well

Originally Posted by StMichaelTheArchangel

Its possible that you are ignorant on this matter. Screamo music is not of God, no matter what kind of lyrics they say (scream). Their worldliness shall become apparent to all. You shall know them by their fruits. What are the fruits of screamo music? Making you feel worldly and making you want to have to do with the world. 1Jn 2:15 Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1Jn 2:16 Because everything that is in the world--the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life--is not from the Father but is from the world.
1Jn 2:17 And the world is passing away, and its lust; but he who does the will of God abides forever.




The divine Apostle Paul commands us, "Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind(Gr. NOUS), that you may prove what is that good and well pleasing and perfect will of God." (Romans 12:2)


1Co 2:12 Now we did not receive the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is from God, in order that we might know the things granted to us by God;
1Co 2:13 which we also speak, not in words taught in human wisdom, but in words taught by the Holy Spirit, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1Co 2:14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1Co 2:15 But he that is spiritual discerns all things, yet he himself is discerned by no man.
1Co 2:16 For "Who has known the mind of the LORD, that he may instruct Him?" But we have the mind of Christ.




The Apostle Paul did not tell us to sing worldly songs to the Lord but only spiritual songs and melodies.
This is what he said, "Eph_5:19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; "


"PSALMS", "HYMNS", "SPIRITUAL SONGS" and "SINGING AND MELODY". He did not say screams but SINGING. He did not say guitar riffs but MELODIES. He did not say worldly songs (for they are worldly and are conformed to this world (Rom 12:2) ) but SPIRITUAL SONGS. He did not just say to sing HYMNS but PSALMS as well, because the Spiritual Song itself must be composed by the Holy Spirit and with its inspiration.



I listen to Hymns of the Orthodox Church of Christ. Its not worldly music. Only the music of the Orthodox Church of Christ can truly be called "Christian" music.

Listen to this for example, does this make you want to slit your wrists like screamo does? (This is a chant that was composed in the 19th century by a Russian)

I just took the time to watch the video.. and the answer to your question is yes, it makes me wanna slice my wrist, the chant sounds like a dead cat trying to climb up a staircase made of glass! o: lol, like wtc.. but all seriousness.. Yes, it was a bit depressing! lol

[blackout]

so if christian screamo is bad? where do you draw the line to christian music? there is good christian rock bands is that bad to??? ppl get to deep into this its prazing God right?

[StMichaelTheArchangel]

Originally Posted by hislastwalk

I just took the time to watch the video.. and the answer to your question is yes, it makes me wanna slice my wrist, the chant sounds like a dead cat trying to climb up a staircase made of glass! o: lol, like wtc.. but all seriousness.. Yes, it was a bit depressing! lol

Sorry friend, but the reason you found it depressing is because you have the sorrow of the world.

2Co_7:10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.

The song is meant to bring contrition and humility, a feeling of godly sorrow; but the reason you found it depressing is because you yourself are worldly and are of its spirit. Im sorry I should not judge you like this... maybe if you understood the lyrics you would understand how majestic the hymn really is.

[Jordache]

God judges the heart. The fruit first appears in the heart. Its sad to me that people would judge the sound of music so harshly. So if someone can't sing or plays an instrument horribly, does that mean they aren't worshipping.
Isaiah 29:13 is talking about the worship of Israel and why it wasn't true worship. Was it because the worship didn't sound "holy"? No! It was because they worshipped with their lips and not their hearts. Worship is a matter of heart, not sound. Scream, kneel and cry, shout la la la, dance, spin, whatever... It's the heart, not the action.
Melody takes two notes. And people scream in multiple notes just as we speak in multiple notes. What makes a song spiritual? The sound isn't what fills a song with spirit. The HS is what makes a song spiritual.
To whomever said we were not supposed make screaming outcries is not correct. What did they say about hannahs gut wrenching outcries to the Lord? They thought she was drunk. It was about the heart offering, not what it sounded like. God didnt care is she sounded drunk.
Also, I don't need to talk to a priest to know what is right.

[HearOhIsreal]

Originally Posted by Jordache

God judges the heart. The fruit first appears in the heart. Its sad to me that people would judge the sound of music so harshly. So if someone can't sing or plays an instrument horribly, does that mean they aren't worshipping.
Isaiah 29:13 is talking about the worship of Israel and why it wasn't true worship. Was it because the worship didn't sound "holy"? No! It was because they worshipped with their lips and not their hearts. Worship is a matter of heart, not sound. Scream, kneel and cry, shout la la la, dance, spin, whatever... It's the heart, not the action.
Melody takes two notes. And people scream in multiple notes just as we speak in multiple notes. What makes a song spiritual? The sound isn't what fills a song with spirit. The HS is what makes a song spiritual.
To whomever said we were not supposed make screaming outcries is not correct. What did they say about hannahs gut wrenching outcries to the Lord? They thought she was drunk. It was about the heart offering, not what it sounded like. God didnt care is she sounded drunk.
Also, I don't need to talk to a priest to know what is right.

You make a very good point.