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Tlite

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Hey so one thing I've felt led to get off my chest is a struggle I've been dealing with for a while now. I would appreciate if all the comments were encouragement because it really has been difficult. I'm 16 years old and I've been struggling with thoughts of homosexuality. I know I'm not gay and I know God loves me and didn't make me to be gay. It's just something I sometimes can't help but think about. Up until recently I had gotten to the point where I would let my mind lust after other guys even though I knew I was sinning. I'm still a virgin but it's just these lusts which I know are sins. I would appreciate prayer from the body of Christ to help me overcome this. I've just been giving everything over to God when I feel overwhelmed by it. I've found it helpful to pray or ask someone to pray for me when I'm struggling. Thanks.
 
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AmandaSpellings

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I know that my opinion my differ from the majority of people on here, but god loves you no matter what, and you are completely normal. You don't have to change who you are because you can't, and if you try you're going to be in a lot of pain and struggle with feelings of incompletion and inadequacy for trying to be someone you're not. There's nothing wrong with being who you are and being gay because we're all different and we're all entitled to love who we want to love. These feelings are not abnormal and they are not wrong. I speak as someone who wants you to be happy with who you are and not feel like you have to be someone different just because other people tell you so. I believe God will love you no matter what because I do not believe in a God that will punish people just for loving other people.

I do not mean to stir up arguments, merely voicing my opinion. Please, if you want to talk to me in private then message me.
 

Adrianv125

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You gotta be careful with any impulse that you have that you know would not normally come from you. Normally this kind of thing comes from a spiritual nature, by that I mean demonic. Satan and his angels want you to go against the purpose that God created your body, your soul, and your mind for. And if you are not walking with God in complete submission to Him in prayer and putting His word at the center of your being and in your heart, then you are very open to His attacks. Demons like to make people confused and influence them to do shameful things. So friend draw close to God and He will draw close to you. Don't let this to keep on happening to you. I advice you to walk with God. Lay down your life like Christ lied His down for all of us, and let Him lead you through His word. If we don't we are open to many destructive spirits.

God Bless you!
 

Adrianv125

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I know that my opinion my differ from the majority of people on here, but god loves you no matter what, and you are completely normal. You don't have to change who you are because you can't, and if you try you're going to be in a lot of pain and struggle with feelings of incompletion and inadequacy for trying to be someone you're not. There's nothing wrong with being who you are and being gay because we're all different and we're all entitled to love who we want to love. These feelings are not abnormal and they are not wrong. I speak as someone who wants you to be happy with who you are and not feel like you have to be someone different just because other people tell you so. I believe God will love you no matter what because I do not believe in a God that will punish people just for loving other people.

I do not mean to stir up arguments, merely voicing my opinion. Please, if you want to talk to me in private then message me.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
New King James Version (NKJV)
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,or sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
 
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Tlite

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Thanks to you both for your opinions. I just truly believe I'm not gay but it's more of a flesh desire. I will definitely be praying for guidance. I appreciate both of you being kind and not judging me for this. It's rather taboo I realize which is one reason why it's so hard to talk about. Thanks
 
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Warrior44

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Hey its not easy talking about it so i give you props for that. As with most sins of the flesh there is temptation. The devil will put thoughts into your head which can be confused as desires. As long as you try your hardest to put down these thoughts and do not act on them, then it is not a sin. Because temptation will always be with us, but we don't have to give in.
 

shemaiah

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In addition to what adrian already said, the bible says in Mark 11:23 "For assuredly I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, Be removed and be cast into the sea, and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that those things he says will be done, he will have whatever he says."
You have been given the ability to overcome all powers and kingdoms, you can have whatever you say if you have faith. According to revelation 1: 6, you have been made a king and priest, and in Ecclesiates the bible says the word of a king has power. Stand in prayer and rebuke and reject all thoughts you may get concerning such. The bible says in James 4: 7 "resist the devil and he will flee!"
 
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Ramon

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Hey so one thing I've felt led to get off my chest is a struggle I've been dealing with for a while now. I would appreciate if all the comments were encouragement because it really has been difficult. I'm 16 years old and I've been struggling with thoughts of homosexuality. I know I'm not gay and I know God loves me and didn't make me to be gay. It's just something I sometimes can't help but think about. Up until recently I had gotten to the point where I would let my mind lust after other guys even though I knew I was sinning. I'm still a virgin but it's just these lusts which I know are sins. I would appreciate prayer from the body of Christ to help me overcome this. I've just been giving everything over to God when I feel overwhelmed by it. I've found it helpful to pray or ask someone to pray for me when I'm struggling. Thanks.
My friend we are in a spiritual war, which Jesus Christ gives us the power to fight. Read in the gospels about Jesus Christ. Read and believe and obey. He has the words of eternal life. He will make you free my friend. May Jesus bless you.
 
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JustinPorter27

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I know that my opinion my differ from the majority of people on here, but god loves you no matter what, and you are completely normal. You don't have to change who you are because you can't, and if you try you're going to be in a lot of pain and struggle with feelings of incompletion and inadequacy for trying to be someone you're not. There's nothing wrong with being who you are and being gay because we're all different and we're all entitled to love who we want to love. These feelings are not abnormal and they are not wrong. I speak as someone who wants you to be happy with who you are and not feel like you have to be someone different just because other people tell you so. I believe God will love you no matter what because I do not believe in a God that will punish people just for loving other people.

I do not mean to stir up arguments, merely voicing my opinion. Please, if you want to talk to me in private then message me.
I agree with this 100%. In fact, i'm a little surprised on how many people actually believe its a sin on this sight, its a little off putting. I do feel bad for the poster of this thread though; He will probably struggle with his feelings for the majority of his life unless he accepts who he is.
 
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jaydawg888

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JustinPorter27 said:
i'm a little surprised on how many people actually believe its a sin
I know, right? Even Jesus called it a sin. *My gosh, that kind of talk will get us nowhere, that's why I take a sharpie to my Bible. ;)

**note the sarcasm

But anways, that's neither here nor there right now. Tlite, you're struggling with lust and that's going to twist your mind from one sinful thought to another as the devil tries his best to corrupt you. That's the truth, and any guy that says he hasn't had hormones cause him to think crazy things when they first started working through his system is going to be lying to you. You need to put God first, above all these thoughts. Keep praying to Him for support. for strength. Lust is a bitter enemy for lots of people. Especially when hormones are first getting introduced into the game. (annoying little buggers, aren't they? Especially for guys, I know.) I'll keep you in my prayers for God to give you strength to stand up to the thoughts and feelings that are trying to creep into your mind about this subject.
 
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CrystalClear

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[. I've just been giving everything over to God when I feel overwhelmed by it. I've found it helpful to pray or ask someone to pray for me when I'm struggling. Thanks.[/quote]

I would be happy to pray for you. How are you doing with that struggle recently? You have been doing the most important thing which was giving the problem over to God. That is not always an easy thing to do. I have trouble with my faith in general with just trusting God and laying my burdens down. It's all about discipline.
 
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CrystalClear

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I know that my opinion my differ from the majority of people on here, but god loves you no matter what, and you are completely normal. You don't have to change who you are because you can't, and if you try you're going to be in a lot of pain and struggle with feelings of incompletion and inadequacy for trying to be someone you're not. There's nothing wrong with being who you are and being gay because we're all different and we're all entitled to love who we want to love. These feelings are not abnormal and they are not wrong. I speak as someone who wants you to be happy with who you are and not feel like you have to be someone different just because other people tell you so. I believe God will love you no matter what because I do not believe in a God that will punish people just for loving other people.
I agree with you about not being able to change yourself and who you are, because you can't change who you naturally are. God made us all to be a certain way and to love certain people. It's not like the whole human race said, "Let's make up alot of bad things to happen in the world so we can fight over it." Obstacles like homosexuality were meant to be I believe.
 
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godovermoney

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firstof all to everyone that is telling him it is ok and normal im going to say this,it is not okay to be homosexual at all or have thoughts about it. it clearly states this in the bible.

1 corinthians 6:9
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders

and i warn anybody telling him that its perfectly normal that teaching the wrong information is very dangerous so watch putting your own opinions and twists on the word of god.

Deuteronomy 12:32
Whatever I command you, be careful to observe it; you shall not add to it nor take away from it."
"Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.
Do not add to His words, lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar."
Proverbs 30:5-6
"For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." Revelation 22:18-19
"I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.
"As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ." Galatians 1:6-10
"For we are not, as so many, peddling the word of God; but as of sincerity, but as from God, we speak in the sight of God in Christ." 2 Corinthians 2:17
"Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God." Galatians 5:19-21
My friend,tlite, i have prayed for you and do not be afraid of these thoughts, for it is satan attacking you. Jesus will destroy these thoughts for you just keep praying!:D
 
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Tlite

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@justinporter27 I don't believe God would make me to where I would struggle with this for the rest of my life. I know he will help me because he is God and he is just. I'm sorry to disagree with you again but I do believe homosexuality is a sin. The Bible does say this. One of the reasons I believe I struggle with this is because I used to be picked on for reading and studying and such so after a while I began to somewhat believe I was what everyone said I was. As of a few years ago I realized it doesn't matter what everyone else thinks because the world isn't of God so therefore it's opinion does not matter. But deep down I still struggled with it and now as I'm getting older and dealing with more and more things i decided to just release them over to God. Best decision I ever made. God has given me a number of blessings to help me with my struggles so I firmly believe he will help me with this one as well.
@crystal-clear I thank you for your input but again I do not believe God makes us homosexuals. He made them male and female for a reason. Marriage is reserved for a man and a woman. Thats how God wants it to be. I also believe God doesn't want us to lust after anyone other than our spouse. So how can someone lust after the same sex and not think it's a sin. That's just how I look at it. I do appreciate your prayers though. I agree that it is difficult releasing everything but we must if we wish to continue growing In out faith. I also used to struggle with doubting my faith but pray for God to reveal himself and he truly will. :)
 
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Tlite

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@godovermoney and jaydawg888 thank you Both very much for the encouragement and references. I appreciate it and your prayers.
 
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godovermoney

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tlite you are truly getting it. jesus will fix this for you friend. i am proud of you for not letting these ppl get into your head with their nonsense
 
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AmandaSpellings

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tlite you are truly getting it. jesus will fix this for you friend. i am proud of you for not letting these ppl get into your head with their nonsense
If you are referring to me as part of "these ppl" then I am offended. I am trying to help just as much as you are, and just because we have different opinions does not mean that what I have to say is "nonsense". I could easily say the same about yours but just because you have something to say that varies from what I have to say does not mean I think you are at all invalid in your opinion. Please don't call what someone says "nonsense" because it differs from your beliefs.
 
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JustinPorter27

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This is probably not the right place to express this particular view then, but i'm hoping i can benefit the original poster. There are many people who don't view homosexuality as a sin, and you don't have to either. "I know I'm not gay and I know God loves me and didn't make me to be gay." I'm sorry to say this, but there is no such thing as a heterosexual man who is attracted to guys. God decided that you would be gay. And no, Jesus will not destroy your homosexual thoughts for you. People turn "straight" by repressing their thoughts and lying to themselves, which most likely back tracks in the end. I think giving homosexuality a bad label is a worse crime than actually being homosexual. It gives a huge stigma on homosexuality, and people resort to lying to others and themselves, as well as causing some to have depression and even suicide. I can't think of a way that being homosexual has harmed another person. This is just my opinion though. I'm sure most of you will just disregard this and the original poster will continue to not accept himself.
 
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AmandaSpellings

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This is probably not the right place to express this particular view then, but i'm hoping i can benefit the original poster. There are many people who don't view homosexuality as a sin, and you don't have to either. "I know I'm not gay and I know God loves me and didn't make me to be gay." I'm sorry to say this, but there is no such thing as a heterosexual man who is attracted to guys. God decided that you would be gay. And no, Jesus will not destroy your homosexual thoughts for you. People turn "straight" by repressing their thoughts and lying to themselves, which most likely back tracks in the end. I think giving homosexuality a bad label is a worse crime than actually being homosexual. It gives a huge stigma on homosexuality, and people resort to lying to others and themselves, as well as causing some to have depression and even suicide. I can't think of a way that being homosexual has harmed another person. This is just my opinion though. I'm sure most of you will just disregard this and the original poster will continue to not accept himself.
I agree with most of what you have to say. However, I disagree that "there is no such thing as a heterosexual man who is attracted to guys". Maybe it depends on who you are, but I know that I - a straight woman - have been attracted to other women. I call them "girl crushes". I would rather date a man because in general I am more attracted to men, but there are times that I am attracted to females. However, maybe it's the fact that I am extremely secure in my sexuality that allows me to admit this. I'm not saying that the OP is or is not gay, because I do think people can go through phases of confusion. I think it's natural and healthy to question this because it shows that you're secure with who you are. However, if the feelings persist and one constantly tries to suppress them, then yeah, I think that they are gay and hiding from the attraction is very unhealthy.
 
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Tlite

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@justinporter27 so are you saying Jesus won't because he doesn't help with temptation? Or because it says in the Bible he won't help with homosexual temptations? I accept myself for who I am but I know I'm not a homosexual. And you said there is no such thing as a heterosexual man attracted to other men? I don't believe the opposite of homosexuality is heterosexuality. I believe the opposite is holiness. I believe God made everyone to be holy and we have defiled ourselves. Why would I have to be a slave to sin if I have Jesus Christ in my life? Just because I have homosexual thoughts doesn't mean im gay. Just because someone tells a lie does it make them a liar? Or can they repent and turn away from their sin?