My mind has been BLOWN. Satanism = Average person's opinion.

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Was watching this interview of the two people who run the Church of Satan.

The First Family of Satanism 1 - YouTube

(Armor up before using this link. One must be VERY careful when dealing with the enemy.)

And, as I listened... it began sounding familiar. Especially around the parts where they started to discuss sexual immorality, and regarding how they believe that every person is entitled to define their own reality.

Someone could be completely immoral, and have said to them: "Oh, it's alright. That's just YOUR take on things."

I've heard this come from my atheist friends all of the time, and even from some Christians!

There's the people who're REALLY messed up in the head, insulting anyone who disagrees with them and calling them stupid for thinking that way.

And then there's the more abundant ones who think that everyone's entitled to their own opinions about things. And thus think it's OKAY for someone to be gay, as long as they don't try to push it off on them. It's OKAY to be rude to people, as long as it's not to them. It's okay for someone to get vengeance on another human, as long as it's not them.

And, to think I was once a pluralist. I thought that everyone was entitled to their own opinions, and that they were right in their own minds. But I held God's truth over everything else as the moral compass I used for myself.

But, no more... from now on I'm shunning anything that goes against God's teachings. I'll never again be "okay" with someone intentionally doing what's wrong.

What do you, the reader think of this?
 
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Really tired when I wrote this. Forgive me for any grammar errors you find.
 
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Seth! good to see ya.

If you proclaim the Gospel at your age, then you would be a better man than I. I can only wish that I answered His call when I was your age.

A true Christian will warn people of God's standards. God's standards ultimately come down to love and keeping ones self unspotted from the world. The LORD is looking for people to love like He did. But, the only way to love, as the LORD defines it, is in Christ.

There's a lot of people that say they 'love'.... but, do they love like He did? If Christians can scarcely drive down the road without cursing someone, calling them idiot, how are they going to love someone who is killing them?

Can we all join together in prayer for this kind of love? The kind of love that would not put up a fight but would let someone hit them over and over again? All the while proclaiming God's love?

Everything that is "right and wrong" would be corrected if we had that kind of love. There would be no one hitting anyone.

Have you guys ever been in a situation like this:

Once I was at the pizza place with my kids and their friends for a birthday party. There was a little boy there that allegedly hit one of the little girls in our group. The girls mom told the boy to leave them alone. This wasn't a little hit either, I was told that he punched her full on in the nose. So, I started watching them a little closer, and sure enough the little boy was antagonizing them again.

I walked up to the little boy and told him that he needed to go play somewhere else, to leave my group of kids alone. He flipped me some sort of sign and went off cursing under his breath... a little 5 year old boy! So, I went over to his table where his parents were at. I told them that they needed to keep their boy away from by kids because of his behavior. The mother was ok with it and was compliant.

However, the father stood up in a rage. He said, 'how dare you come over and tell my wife what to do with my boy.' At this point his wife was trying to calm him down and was apologizing to me. At that instant I could see the same 'behavior' in this very big dad, that I saw in his little boy. I didn't back down though. I told him the same thing, that I just wanted them to make sure his boy was separated from my children. He got even more in a huff and started to try to intimidate, like bullies do saying all sorts of things that he would do.

I calmly took off my glasses and said, 'if you need to hit me, then hit me.' I stood my ground and he got so upset. Soon enough he started swearing. At this point I calmly smiled and went back to my seat. Security was soon there and escorted him and his family out. I went back to my seat, with all of the children there, who saw the whole thing. I could tell that the little girl was scared for me. She's about 10 years old.

I gathered the children and the adults and said, 'let's pray for that man and his family.' In the middle of the restaurant we prayed for him. And those children will never forget how I behaved that day when confronted by that man.

Are we, as Christians, especially in America, at this point yet? Because there's a lot more race ahead of us. For those who read this, if a bully picks on you at school, are you at the point of standing on God's Word?

I know that it seems weak, but, when you understand that people don't know what they are doing when they do wrong, that we don't fight against flesh and blood, it is easier to love the people and hate the Sin conceived by Satan and lust.

Luk 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.

Joh 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

People need to be reproved, don't get me wrong, but, it's by God's power and not our own (as Christians). There is a point in Christian growth where our words, standing on GOD's Word, become more powerful than our fists.

Mat 26:52 Then said Jesus unto him,Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

Act 5:1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
Act 5:2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.
Act 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
Act 5:4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
Act 5:5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.
Act 5:6 And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.
Act 5:7 And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.
Act 5:8 And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.
Act 5:9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.
Act 5:10 Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.
Act 5:11 And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things.

I've had this happen in my Christian walk to, more or less. When people are confronted with truth, or a rebuke, it can suddenly become difficult to stand. If their house isn't built on the Rock of Christ, it will come tumbling down as they are condemned in their inability to justify themselves to the storm.

Most of the time, people end up committing suicide. Whether it's attempting to justify a rebuke or trying to fight off cruel sayings from school bullies... everyone needs a Rock to stand on, because those storms can come in fast and unannounced.

The kind of love that we need though is only something that God can do in us, and it takes prayer. If we all pray for this kind of love, the same kind of love that Stephen had when he was being stoned to death... as often as we can and with other believers, then we might be able to get on the right track, as a church, and maybe even as a nation.

If we can stop calling people idiots and trying to one up everyone else, that would be a great start too.


Will you guys agree in prayer with me? If so, I will post a prayer on the prayer board. All you have to do is say something like: I agree in prayer, in Jesus Name, Amen.

1 Corinthians 13

1 If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
 
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Seth

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Read your whole post. But skipped the second half of the scriptures you posted. My eyes are sore from watching that whole two-hour long interview.
It's a truly noble thing you did in that pizza place. Thanks for telling me about it, I'll hopefully remember that for a time in the future when I'm presented with a situation such as that.

It is truly sad that society's decayed so much that people like that have become more common.
But to me, it's absolutely shocking that even the sane people-, who're considered reasonably minded and are agreed with by most of the populace, share many of the same opinions as satanists.

In fact, most of the more zealous atheists I've encountered share the same philosophy for the most part. The only exception to my knowledge being about helping people in need.

It's scary how it's become acceptable for a person to "Define their own reality". For it to be acceptable for someone to go against the moral principals, the right principals, set forth by our Lord. Even though everyone agrees that these things are the right things to do, they're still able to do as they please. And nobody else can say anything about it.
Everyone I've ever known has believed in the philosophy of "An eye for an eye.", which is one of the main themes in Satanism.

I donno. It just really caught me off guard.

But, oddly enough, learning about the Satanists' beliefs has actually turned my heart away from it. If anything, it's just driven me closer to God. I want nothing to do with Satan.
 
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But, oddly enough, learning about the Satanists' beliefs has actually turned my heart away from it. If anything, it's just driven me closer to God. I want nothing to do with Satan.
Amen.

Satan is a horrible master.

Keep using God's Word to steer away from Satan and in the LORD. Don't be swayed by the winds and the waves and pray earnestly over your friends, to have the ones that God's wants in your life and to steer clear from the ones He doesn't want there.

Pray over your school and teachers too. I stand with you in your prayers for these people.

When your eyes clear up tomorrow, read some of my others recent posts, there's some good info and scripture that will help too. If you ever need anyone to stand in prayer with you, post on the prayer board, or pm me.

I'm proud of you Seth. Like I said, I wish I would have started following the Lord when I was your age.

It's going to make all the difference, for good, in your life.


Steven
 
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Amen.

Satan is a horrible master.

Keep using God's Word to steer away from Satan and in the LORD. Don't be swayed by the winds and the waves and pray earnestly over your friends, to have the ones that God's wants in your life and to steer clear from the ones He doesn't want there.

Pray over your school and teachers too. I stand with you in your prayers for these people.

When your eyes clear up tomorrow, read some of my others recent posts, there's some good info and scripture that will help too. If you ever need anyone to stand in prayer with you, post on the prayer board, or pm me.

I'm proud of you Seth. Like I said, I wish I would have started following the Lord when I was your age.

It's going to make all the difference, for good, in your life.


Steven
Thanks, and Amen to that.
 
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Another thing to notice, is that satanism advocates the supposed "freedom" and "liberation" of humanity (hint: carnal desire/lust and sin).
 
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Seth

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Another thing to notice, is that satanism advocates the supposed "freedom" and "liberation" of humanity (hint: carnal desire/lust and sin).
Exactly.

Had a discussion with an atheist yesterday about his beliefs, and he said he thought that believing in sin was actually detrimental to society. That morals caused unneeded stress in a person's life.
 
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Exactly.

Had a discussion with an atheist yesterday about his beliefs, and he said he thought that believing in sin was actually detrimental to society. That morals caused unneeded stress in a person's life.

I mean, I don't agree with him, but, at least in the United States, we're not given the best examples of Christians on the news. You never see the Christian teen who volunteers hours and hours a week at the animal or homeless shelter, or who makes food for poor families... You see people like Ricky Perry and Michele Bachmann who are the embodiment of the old saying "crazy Christians." You can't necessarily blame someone for believing that morals are wrong when the people represented are these two nutbags and people like them.
 
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Maybe instead of "shunning" people because they have different beliefs or ideas, how about leveling with them and seeing why they don't agree with you. And I don't think Jesus would want you to abandon a friend just because they don't agree with you on a certain matter. That doesn't seem like something he would've done. You mentioned sexual immorality, which is arguably the smallest touch upon sin in the Bible, and some parts are highly debatable. Instead of telling people "being gay is wrong, you're going to Hell, I'm not your friend anymore" how about showing them some of God's love.
 
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I am currently reading a book called "Devils, Demons and Deliverance" by Marilyn Hickey. It is about the occult aka satanism, how to identify people involved with it and how to be delivered from it. Very interesting book so far and speaks of these things you mentioned from that interview.
 
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Maybe instead of "shunning" people because they have different beliefs or ideas, how about leveling with them and seeing why they don't agree with you. And I don't think Jesus would want you to abandon a friend just because they don't agree with you on a certain matter. That doesn't seem like something he would've done. You mentioned sexual immorality, which is arguably the smallest touch upon sin in the Bible, and some parts are highly debatable. Instead of telling people "being gay is wrong, you're going to Hell, I'm not your friend anymore" how about showing them some of God's love.
The love of God is showing people the consequence of abiding in sin, and then to show them the way out. We all get our choice as to who we want to hang out with, but, as Christians we are not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers. We can try to do the best that we are able to be around them, but, in the end we have to guard our own heart as well.

I've never 'shunned' anyone, but, some people that I have told the truth to have never sought out to talk to me again, friends that I had for many years, still living in sin and on their way to hell.

The reason why people have to know that they are going to hell is to create a sense of necessity to do something about it. If they don't believe the Word, then we are to shake the dust off of our feet as a testimony against them. I perceive that you are still bearing a lot of corrupt fruit in your life as well, or else you would know this. What you are going to find out is that the quickest way to love someone in trouble is to let them know that they are in trouble, and what they do about it.

If they want help, then we might be able to do whatever the LORD gives us grace to do... but, it's difficult to help someone who doesn't want it.

It's up to them to work out their own salvation with fear and trembling.


Take this text for example:


[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 6:43[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]Murmur not among yourselves.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 6:44[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 6:45[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 6:46[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 6:47[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 6:48[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]I am that bread of life.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 6:49[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 6:50[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 6:51[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 6:52[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]his[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] flesh to eat? [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 6:53[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] Then Jesus said unto them, [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 6:54[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 6:55[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 6:56[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 6:57[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 6:58[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 6:59[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum. [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 6:60[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]this,[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it? [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 6:61[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]Doth this offend you?[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 6:62[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]What[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 6:63[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you,[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]they[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]are spirit, and[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]they[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]are life.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 6:64[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]But there are some of you that believe not.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him. [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 6:65[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] And he said, [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Joh 6:66[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] From that [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]time[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif] many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him. [/FONT]


FSUboy, how well do you know the LORD?

Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.


1 Cor 15:33 Stop being deceived: "Wicked friends lead to evil ends."


If you are bearing corrupt fruit you are in great danger of going to hell yourself. Be watchful and alert, don't be sleeping, you never know when death, or the Master will come.

Sincerely,

Steven
 
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I am currently reading a book called "Devils, Demons and Deliverance" by Marilyn Hickey. It is about the occult aka satanism, how to identify people involved with it and how to be delivered from it. Very interesting book so far and speaks of these things you mentioned from that interview.

thats only one bit, the devil has many faces/masks/deceptions, but they are ultimately interlinked.

Occult is very very important; you must avoid it at all costs, but its also in your daily life, so you have to get rid of occultic symbols/items.

This includes the masons and other secret societies and associations, but occultism is very prominent, its an abomination like the one spoken in the bible, because it is very literal with its satanic roots, its also very related to witchcraft and such.
 
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There are satanic symbols that are making their way into mainstream and people are being told that these symbols have a good meaning..WRONG! Do not be deceived! Doing a bit of research can easily help you identify these satanic symbols. Even shapes we see everyday such as circles and triangles are used in satanism.

The main three that people are being deceived into thinking are not evil are:

The cross of nero a.k.a. the peace sign.



The pentagram and the inverted pentagram.



Anarchy, inverted symbol also used



There are many other symbols that are associated with satanism.
 
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"I mean, I don't agree with him, but, at least in the United States, we're not given the best examples of Christians on the news. You never see the Christian teen who volunteers hours and hours a week at the animal or homeless shelter, or who makes food for poor families... You see people like Ricky Perry and Michele Bachmann who are the embodiment of the old saying "crazy Christians." You can't necessarily blame someone for believing that morals are wrong when the people represented are these two nutbags and people like them."
-FSUBoy966

I see where you're coming from, and I do concur that's a very likely reason.

To add to this theory is a pattern that I've witnessed in many a young atheist who violently opposes religion. Quite a few were brought up in a "Christian" home where God was just the big man in the sky who's prayed to at dinner, and given praise on Sundays for the sake of cashing in on going to heaven.

If I were brought up like that, I'm sure that I would have reached the same conclusions without some divine intervention. I just hope that in the future if I ever become a parent, I won't end up alienating my children from God by failing to pass on my knowledge about Him.(As minuscule as that knowledge may be)

I suppose that this had to come to pass eventually to accommodate the end times.

"Maybe instead of "shunning" people because they have different beliefs or ideas, how about leveling with them and seeing why they don't agree with you. And I don't think Jesus would want you to abandon a friend just because they don't agree with you on a certain matter. That doesn't seem like something he would've done. You mentioned sexual immorality, which is arguably the smallest touch upon sin in the Bible, and some parts are highly debatable. Instead of telling people "being gay is wrong, you're going to Hell, I'm not your friend anymore" how about showing them some of God's love"

I've many Atheist friends. Some just don't believe in religion, others feel offended by the notion of being judged for the way they live, some are convinced that they've been born a certain way and cannot change or don't want to...
...I understand that they're lost, and hold nothing against them for being so. I blame the enemy more than anything else. I cannot hate those people who I've been told by God to love, and show compassion for.

I feel their pain, and wish I could help somehow. But, I know that the way Satan crafted the lies he's convinced them of, they'd never hear what I'd have to say about God. How he REALLY is.

Though, I hold nothing against them I cannot agree with them in any way. I can't be "okay" with their sinful lives. I'm not gonna be all like: "YOU'RE GOIN' TA HELL! TURN BACK NAO." But, I will make my distaste with their choices known while at the same remaining warm-hearted to them. Perhaps through me they'll see God's love for them...

To be okay with someone's rebellion against God under the guise of "Everyone's entitled to their own opinion. As long as it doesn't effect me, they can do what they choose." is to show support for someone's wrongdoings. If they feel reaffirmed that what they're doing is acceptable, how then are they going to see the truth?


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@Avidan

I swear, you know so much scripture you might as well be a living Bible. XD Good on ya', mate.

Thanks for the post, very informative. And re-assures me that my resolve is a just one.



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"There are satanic symbols that are making their way into mainstream and people are being told that these symbols have a good meaning..WRONG! Do not be deceived! Doing a bit of research can easily help you identify these satanic symbols. Even shapes we see everyday such as circles and triangles are used in satanism.

The main three that people are being deceived into thinking are not evil are:

The cross of nero a.k.a. the peace sign."
-See_KING_Truth

Wow. I didn't know that the peace sign was actually a satanic symbol. Guess that all my peace-sign related trinkets are going in the bin...

Thanks for pointing that out.
 
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There are satanic symbols that are making their way into mainstream and people are being told that these symbols have a good meaning..WRONG! Do not be deceived! Doing a bit of research can easily help you identify these satanic symbols. Even shapes we see everyday such as circles and triangles are used in satanism.

The main three that people are being deceived into thinking are not evil are:

The cross of nero a.k.a. the peace sign.



The pentagram and the inverted pentagram.



Anarchy, inverted symbol also used



There are many other symbols that are associated with satanism.
This is just pushing it...

To say that the peace sign and the anarchy sign are Satanic is ridiculous, and if you know the history of the pentagram, it's not Christian but it's definitely not Satanic. The pentagram is used by many European pagan groups to symbolize the four elements (fire water air and earth) and spirit (God.) It basically symbolizes harmony and peace in the world. While their beliefs aren't of God, they're most certainly not Devil-worshiping. They don't even believe in Satan. The upside down pentagram, on the other hand, is a quasi-Satanic symbol that popped up in popularity within the last 300 years, originally used by some Christian groups to make it appear as though pagans were actually satanists. Many Satanic groups do use this symbol though, bastardizing the actual meaning that pagan groups gave it thousands of years ago, now meaning evil intent.
 
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The peace sign was known as the cross of nero until the 60s during the hippie revolution when it was adopted as the ''peace sign'' there is nothing peaceful about Nero and his killing of Christians and lighting them on fire to use as torches.

FSU, who's side are you on anyway?!?! Seems to me that your are trying to defend satan and his followers....just sayin.
 
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paganism can be considered satanism by proxy, since it is rejecting the Lord and God. Paganism in ancient times is the equivalent to witchcraft and such today, it really is not much different except it is glamorized today by the media and by games and such. It never was and never will be a good thing.

also cross of nero is representative of a broken cross, there was an ex-satanist who spoke about it, it really is not representative of peace at all (quick google search can pull up some supporting voices, same with youtube, although not entirely scholarly).
 
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This is just pushing it...

To say that the peace sign and the anarchy sign are.....

Rom 14:19 Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.
Rom 14:20 For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.
Rom 14:21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.
Rom 14:22 Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.
Rom 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith:
for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.




Let's look at the fruit sin bears:




2Co 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves...

1 Cor 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,
1 Cor 6:10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

2 Tim 3:1 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come:
2 Tim 3:2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
2 Tim 3:3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good,
2 Tim 3:4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
2 Tim 3:5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!


1Cor 15:33 Stop being deceived: "Wicked friends lead to evil ends."


Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man sows, that shall he also reap.

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings...


Rom 1:29 ...filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:



Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.


Jas 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
Jas 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

Mat 5:22
But I say, if you are even angry with someone, you are subject to judgment! If you call someone an idiot, you are in danger of being brought before the court. And if you curse someone, you are in danger of the fires of hell.

Mar 7:20 ...
That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
Mar 7:21
For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
Mar 7:22
Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
Mar 7:23
All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

Mat 5:28 ...
I say unto you, That whosoever looks on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

This includes masturbation too. You can not be married to yourself. You do not belong to yourself. Your body belongs to the Lord. Keep it in honor and sanctification. If we abide in Christ, we should also walk as He walked.

If those reading don't believe me, see what happens as you become skilled in using the Word of GOD against the temptation.
It will flee. It might challenge you some when you begin to understand who people are actually having sex with when they masturbate. It's not just their own self.

But, it will encourage you to find the way out by using your Sword, Shield, and the other weapons of warfare the Lord has given you.

For more information on
this:

. http://christianchat.com/christian-teens-forum/34691-encouragement.html#post598988


And...


. http://christianchat.com/prayer-requests/34779-deliverance.html#post600302


Speaking of fulfilling sexual desire:

1Co 7:4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

1Th 4:3 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:
1Th 4:4 That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour;
1Th 4:5 Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God...

1Pe 2:11 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul...

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Gal 5:14 ...all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.


This love:. http://christianchat.com/prayer-requests/34713-love.html#post599185


Jas 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this,
To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Love and purity.
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To do or not to do?

It goes to say:

It is better to not have or do anything (that has the appearance of evil) that may cause your brother to sin.

Love doesn't want your brother to stumble if he walks into your room and sees things that he thinks is sin.

Or even as bad, someone who isn't a believer who knows that you are a believer.


For it is written:

1Th 5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.


The Law of Love draws the line between who belongs to the LORD and who doesn't; it draws the line between the manifestations of the fruit of wickedness and the fruit of the Holy Spirit; and it is how we establish the Law of Moses and the prophets, that were fulfilled by Christ.



Remember, corrupt fruit is at the thought level too. As a man thinks in his heart, so is he; and out of the heart the mouth speaks. We are to be capturing every though to the obedience of Christ... which is to love our neighbor as we love our self... more specifically to love others as Christ has loved us.



Much love to you. Keep seeking, keep knocking, and don't stop confessing that You are the righteousness of GOD in Christ.


Gal 5:22 ...the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.


Sincerely,

Steven




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The peace sign was known as the cross of nero until the 60s during the hippie revolution when it was adopted as the ''peace sign'' there is nothing peaceful about Nero and his killing of Christians and lighting them on fire to use as torches.

FSU, who's side are you on anyway?!?! Seems to me that your are trying to defend satan and his followers....just sayin.

I'm on the side of logic. I don't think God would want us to start a witch hunt on any Christian who wears peace signs or are anarchists... Or who happen to watch the show Charmed lol