what makes you beileve in God?

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littlecupcake

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well, I think is funny that many have named theories wich I believe require more faith than believing in God and the bible.
I also think you can't put in the same place faith and reason, otherwise you're gonna get crazy and confused.

I think faith is a matter of relation with God. I know It sounds too simple. Maybe a little dumb if you have just read what others in here have wrote. But with God things are not that complicated. Just a Simple and honest pray, perhaps: "God, if you are out there, somewhere, let me know it. Believing is hard for me"

I can asure you, He is going to answer you. In a way you and only you are going to understand. and then If you are close to him you can be sure His Spirit is going to explain the bible to you.

When I was at college (I studied Litterature) I discovered Nietche and all those humanistic theories and I let them to blind me. But one day I realized all those great and wise thoughs couldn't heal my heart and could not answer the deep and secret questions that my heart and soul had. Like this, I looked at heaven, and I felt (and this word is quite important here) and I knew God was real and was what I was needing.
 
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Jade63 said:
Well, me and my fiance were talking about this whole thing just a few days ago.About there are so many gods and religions that how do we know which one is actually real.. What made me believe are miracles.. My uncle got in a really bad accident was on drugs and the car was totaled we dont even know how he even got out of the car. He came out with not bruises or scratches.. His guardian angels were protecting him because he has a reason for living.. I came to believe in god because of miracles.. and not everybody has "seen" god. I havent but i want too.
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Cars are designed to absorb impacts via the quick collapsing of its frame. When I was seventeen, a truck hit me in a head-on collision. My car looked like it had been dropped off a mountain, but I got out without any significant injuries. You can thank modern science and vehicle safety standards for this.
 
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littlecupcake said:
well, I think is funny that many have named theories wich I believe require more faith than believing in God and the bible.
I also think you can't put in the same place faith and reason, otherwise you're gonna get crazy and confused.

I think faith is a matter of relation with God. I know It sounds too simple. Maybe a little dumb if you have just read what others in here have wrote. But with God things are not that complicated. Just a Simple and honest pray, perhaps: "God, if you are out there, somewhere, let me know it. Believing is hard for me"

I can asure you, He is going to answer you. In a way you and only you are going to understand. and then If you are close to him you can be sure His Spirit is going to explain the bible to you.

When I was at college (I studied Litterature) I discovered Nietche and all those humanistic theories and I let them to blind me. But one day I realized all those great and wise thoughs couldn't heal my heart and could not answer the deep and secret questions that my heart and soul had. Like this, I looked at heaven, and I felt (and this word is quite important here) and I knew God was real and was what I was needing.
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Which theories that have been mentioned in this thread require more faith than believing the bible? A theory, after all, is supported through ongoing and rigorous research, along with vast amounts of empirical data. Faith on the other hand is believe in something without evidence (at least not empirical or verifiable evidence).

Friedrich Nietzsche was not, by any means, a humanist. In fact he was on the complete opposite spectrum of humanism - existentialism, nihilism and postmodernism. He didn't propose any theories. In fact he did the opposite: he spent his career questioning the value of objectivity and truth.
 
Matthew4Jesus

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As in the words of Ramson Mumba, ''If you are waiting to be intellectually convinced, then you will miss God all together.''
Remember, we now live in a rationalised world where many heavily rely on science to provide answers to their questions, which is understandably however the secular argument for and against God will NEVER be won for either side. 1 Corinthians 2:3 And I was with you in weakness and in fear and in much trembling, and my speech and my message were not in plausible words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the spirit and of power, that your faith might not rest in the wisdom of men but in the Power of God.''

So the underlying issue is faith, so let's take a look at what the power of god is. 1:16 ''for I am not ashamed of the gospel for it is the power of God.''
Do let's round it all up, your faith should rest on the power of God, and the Gospel is the power of God, therefore in order to grow your faith you need the word of God! :)

Remember if you know nothing but the Gospel that's fine, 1 Corinthians 2:1-2 ''And I when I came to you, brothers, did not come proclaiming to youths testimony of God with lofty speech or wisdom. For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.''

Paul based his faith on revelation knowledge! So get some more of the word inside of you, and enjoy seeing your faith flourish and stand test to satans lies, he builds things on lies, however they can only last so long, but the truth is eternal, don't fight the lie, just stay in the truth and all will be revealed :)

I will pray for you, GOD BLESS! x x
 
Calmador

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Saul_Durian said:
You completely missed my point. And you are contradicting yourself. You say it is wrong for the world to allow mistakes and long as the person is generally good, but it is ok for a believer to make mistakes because they are saved?

And I what I mean with the rape thing. Rape is not something you do a little of and everyone thinks you are swell person
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Sorry for the late reply, school and life had me busy. I didn't catch a contradiction, were forgiven and it's not ok to do evil stuff.

No I understood your point completely. You clearly didn't understand most of my post... I said it's not christian belief to act in evil ways, just because were saved.

faith without works is dead faith .... right from the Bible. So there you go, it's not ok to do evil things.

Rape is not something you do a little of? What makes you say that? How much of it do you have to do in order for it to be a lot... or a little? It doesn't matter because a little (better put, any amount)... would qualify it to be rape... just like a little evil would qualify you, me, everyone to be evil.

Anyways my point was if you think it's ok to do some evil... that's your way of thinking.

Then you think it's ok for people to lie, some

to steal, some

to get angry, some

to lust, some

to do evil, some

to rape once... and then live out the rest of your life in a "good" way... you'd call that man a good man, under that kind of thinking.

That's the messed up kind of things that happen under that kind of thinking. Its 100% good that is truly good. Not something we do.
 
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