Premarital Sex

Alright, in my last thread I brought up the issue of sexual immorality, mastrubation, and porn. Aka issues we all LOVE to talk about with everyone and are perfectly comfortable with. Ha ha! And thus to continue this trend of bringing up controversial issues so that people can dump the load their carrying, I now present this issue:

Premarital Sex. Sex before marriage. Casual sex. One night stands. ETc etc etc.

Now, the purpose of this thread IS NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT to step on toes and bible bash left and right. I by no means am perfect. You want proof? Check the porn/mastrubation thread:Pornography, Sexual Immorality, and Society

And so let it begin. If you're struggling with this issue post it (and give it to God first and foremost). If you've got advice post it. Just talk about it. This issue needs to be brought up and all need to hear it: sex before marriage/casual sex/etc.=bad bad bad.

And on a side note: can someone please tell me where in the bible sex before marriage is outlawed? I know it's wrong but it's good to have biblical proof considering nowadays everyone's like "well the bible says blah balbh blah".

Rock on my brothers and sisters in Christ!!!

And now for my own theory: Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 1st cor 6:18

guys, if you haven't noticed already, besides the 18 age requiremement there aren't laws against sex, porn, mastrubation, etc. so here's what I've come up with: there are certain things the world says not to do. drugs? alcohol? outlawed (at least to a certain age on the latter) . and smoking? the same deal. You can't murder. You can't steal. So, this means that there is an active body ready to stop you if you try. Some of these (the latter 2) hurt others. The former 3 can hurt others depending on how you act.

My point is this: since there are no laws (again, besides the 18 age requirement to do porn or subscribe to porn) against sexual immorality, there aren't many worldly bodies there to keep you out of trouble.

So from there you have two choices: you either 1) make your own sexual purity standards (a wordly approach) or 2) go by the highest authority in all of creation (that's God). And God clearly is against sexual immorality (see above bible verse 1st Cor 6:18)

What I'm saying is this: we've got to stand firm in what God would have us do. And that means resisting stuff that people all around us do. Now i'm not perfect either and i have to resist evil just as much as you do. And so we're all inthe same boat: either we do evil or do what's right. but here me guys: we do have a higher standard to look to. and that is Christ.

Im done ranting now

I think TIWIH777 said it all. But if i must say something i would have to say that when the bible says "flee" it means really flee. thats what i had to do. I have a habit of running away from my problems... literally... but in this case it was a good thing. even if your around people or music or books or TV or music that doesnt share the same view of sexual immorality that Jesus has then you're not really doing everything you can to protect yourself from temptation. My Pastor once said that temptation is a choice. although i struggled for a while there i finally decided to let Jesus make the choice for me and i think i'll leave it at that.

well lex i think your name says it all lol. nice. i'm glad you got out of there. i got really ticked today when a movie prevew (i love you whatever the chick's name is) was basically a bunch of bad sexual stuff. teens shouldn't do that stuff. ugh

[Grimaldus]

Never had sex, and don't plan to before marriage. Even when I would look at porno I never wanted to have sex before marriage, dunno why.

[Sharp]

Originally Posted by Grimaldus

Never had sex, and don't plan to before marriage. Even when I would look at porno I never wanted to have sex before marriage, dunno why.

Maybe you're a closet Christian

Originally Posted by Grimaldus

Never had sex, and don't plan to before marriage.

Awesome!!!.................

[Grimaldus]

Originally Posted by Sharp

Maybe you're a closet Christian

I live in the bible belt, I would have no reason to hide it, in fact it might help my atrociously low social skills...

Thanks missy

I wouldn't dare to have sex before marriage if it is a sin, personally.

did any body here Oboma bash the holy bible

[Grimaldus]

Originally Posted by keith

did any body here Oboma bash the holy bible

What does that mean?

[Elijah3]

Sex outside of marriage is called FORNICATION. Even if the partners intend to get married, premarital sex is SIN.

Im still a virgin =D
I wont lie i came close a couple times & i THANK God i dint do it & he dint let me do it.
Because if i had i know i would have regreted EVERY single second of it.
I used to know that sex before marriage was bad but i never read about it on the bible so part of me dint realy believe it...
I recently (earlier this year saw it in the bible that sex before marriage is a sin) & thats when i started trying to not want to have sex until i got married which i honestly dont think i will BUt i dont know maybe God has someone for me =) i just dont want to deal with the whole he cheated on me with a stupid mistress & then im stuck with a disgusting person which is what he will be disgusting if he cheats on me...
I have watched porn ....i was curoius =/ All i have to say about it is DISGUSTIN....
I think we should wait till we get married i hate having to ask guys "do you have any kids" Yes thats right over here in texas usa guess what youngest age of being a parent is 10 T.T I miss the times were all you had to do is ask "do you have a girlfriend?" now its do you live with a female that is not your family? , Do you have kids? if so how many? Do you have a girl friend? Its like hardly anyone now a days is a virgin, People are surpriced when i say im a virgin... I dont really want people knowing except for a few close friends because now a days guys are obsessed .... if you get what i mean.
I really thing that we should all wait till marriage & DONT marry unless you plan on staying married for life!
After all i have this thing in me that desires my first time being with someone i love & are also a virgin, I would want to know that im his first instead of thinking how many girls has he done it with, how experienced is he, & all that stuff.... trust me that stuff only stresses you >_>
After all sex isnt the only fun thing there is .... or whatever you want to call it for those who like it.
Theres watching movies, playing with your doggies like freesbee, hanging out with friends, going to church & learning about GOd, Traveling & spreading the word of God *_* the places you will see.... (thats what i want to do in the future )
Enjoying life, spending time with your family....so many things people take for granted, but instead they want to go & have sex, & do things that arnt worth it.

Originally Posted by keith

did any body here Oboma bash the holy bible

Did he really or did people who hate him just say that to get christians & those who read the bible & love God to hate him?

[Jordan9]

Hmm. As someone who used to be quite the fornicator, I have a lot to share on this topic.

Prior to my conversion to Christianity, I was quite sexually active. Not a "playa-playa" or anything, but I did have sex earlier than most of the guys I hung out with, and, in those days, with much more frequency... I lost my virginity at an extremely young age; at the age of fifteen. It is, without a doubt, my biggest regret. I still have a lot of guilt and doubt regarding it; sometimes I feel that I don't deserve to be saved.

I grew up in a nominally-Christian household. If you don't know, that means my family was Christian, but in name only. My parents planted some seeds, but I was never encouraged to attend church or study Scripture. So, I knew about chastity, abstinence, and all that. I was aware of those important concepts, but I didn't agree with them.

Being a teenage male comes with a lot of challenges. One of the greatest challenges is that guys that age tend to think that they know everything. I constantly rationalized my promiscuity. "I am monogamous," I would say to myself, "at least I only sleep with my girlfriend." Stuff like that is what I would say to myself to rationalize my sin, though, even as a stalwart atheist, I knew in my heart of hearts that what I was doing was wrong. Eventually, I couldn't even use the previous excuse I mentioned any more. I had my first "one night stand" at 16. If premarital sex made me feel bad, that made me feel awful. Of course, excessive consumption of alcohol was involved in that one night stand.

The human sex drive is a powerful thing. Because of humanity's Fall, though, it has become corrupted. I understand completely that chastity is a difficult virtue to follow. When asked by the disciples what they had to do to be saved, Jesus said, "With man, it is impossible. But with God, all things are possible." That, I feel, applies entirely to chastity, too. If you are a virgin because of outside forces (parental control, friends, etc.) then it probably won't last. It is a skin-deep commitment. Real chastity requires a strong desire to honor God and honor yourself. It requires you to see your value as a human being, a unique individual whom God knows and adores. It requires you to love your body in Truth; by saving it for your spouse, not doing with it what you wish.

Chastity, like I said, is difficult. And going out and having sex doesn't make it any easier to be pure. I still struggle, tremendously, with remaining pure. However, now I am not alone in my struggle, and I actually desire to remain pure. That desire comes from devotion to God, and it is the only thing that will ensure your chastity.

At any rate, while I would never recommend someone engage in pre-marital sex, God has brought some good out of it. Like all the things we mess up, God has a funny way of turning them for the better. After all, Jesus was an innocent man executed by a corrupt regime; in wordly terms, that is a great injustice, but we know that this incident was the most just, beautiful, and merciful event in history. So, in the spirit of that, I would be glad to answer any questions you guys have about chastity, and provide some insight from my perspective.

God bless each and every one of you!

Jordan

Originally Posted by NoTearsShed

Did he really or did people who hate him just say that to get christians & those who read the bible & love God to hate him?

Basically its the people who hate him twist his words around. I don't like him but there's no need to bash the president. God placed him in power for a reason.

Originally Posted by imepaula

Basically its the people who hate him twist his words around. I don't like him but there's no need to bash the president. God placed him in power for a reason.

Agreed i mean i wanted hillary to win but she dint make it to the last 2 so i wanted him to win instead of mc cain, who wanted to keep the war & send more people off to iraq. It should be OUR choice if we want to go to war, stupid army recruits basically just brain wash you & make promises they WONT keep just so you can join the army & die for a country who dint really care about you.

If we ever had a draft i would leave usa quick, grab my stuff & family & im out, i wont kill innocent people OR die for this country.
Ill only die for the people i love, care about & God.


Its REALLY annoying how they try & either put words in obama's mouth or twist his words.
Unless i hear it straight from his mouth i wont believe it.

Jordan, man I'm so glad that you made the right choice to stop that crud. I am very big on the matter of not engaging in premarital sex and sexual purity as a whole. God bless you, and I pray that he will help everyone out there, male and female, to wait until they're married.

[Kathleen]

Originally Posted by TIWIH777

Alright, in my last thread I brought up the issue of sexual immorality, mastrubation, and porn. Aka issues we all LOVE to talk about with everyone and are perfectly comfortable with. Ha ha! And thus to continue this trend of bringing up controversial issues so that people can dump the load their carrying, I now present this issue:

Premarital Sex. Sex before marriage. Casual sex. One night stands. ETc etc etc.

Now, the purpose of this thread IS NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT to step on toes and bible bash left and right. I by no means am perfect. You want proof? Check the porn/mastrubation thread:Pornography, Sexual Immorality, and Society

And so let it begin. If you're struggling with this issue post it (and give it to God first and foremost). If you've got advice post it. Just talk about it. This issue needs to be brought up and all need to hear it: sex before marriage/casual sex/etc.=bad bad bad.

And on a side note: can someone please tell me where in the bible sex before marriage is outlawed? I know it's wrong but it's good to have biblical proof considering nowadays everyone's like "well the bible says blah balbh blah".

Rock on my brothers and sisters in Christ!!!

Firstly I will refer you to 1 Thessalonians4:3 - It is God's will that you should be sanctified:that you should avoid sexual immorality;

Secondly sex outwith a marrige is either fornication or adultery. and it does say somewhere in the bible ...fonicators, ....adulterers....shall not inherit the kingdom of heven. Of course these sins can be forgiven with repentance..

I personally feel that the bible is VERY clear on this subject. There are many verses in the bible saying avoid from any form of sexual immorality ( adultery or fornication )
ie. Acts 15:20
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
Exodus 22:16-17
Galatians 5:19

Lastly I saw your thread on masterbation, pornography ....etc etc
Now I assume by now u may have guessed I read the bible. I find it easy to rember alot of things but sometimes ( and on this occasion) i can never remember the exact quote and where it comes from, but I do remember quite clearly that in the bible it is written that people should refrain from talking about pornographic things to the world - i have rephrased it a little as i can not rember exactly what it said. However I do feel it is a calid point that should be brought up. If i come accross it again I will refer you to it.

Also, I am not judgeing you, but merely helping. May the holy spirit guid you on this matter
Kath x

The godly view of premarital sex is often a "boiled frog". Just like the frog who jumps into cool water and is slowly cooked as the water gradually increases to a boil, so also the christian view of premarital sex has slowly died in the minds of many individuals. I won't cite the influences, most of us know exactly how it happens.

As far as scripture, Hebrews 13:4 speaks clearly. It's not just those who commit adultery who do not honor marriage, it is also those who engage in sex outside of marriage.......

Hebrews 13:4
"Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral."