The new testament

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fightingforthelight

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Hey, guys!

I've got a question... Why are we considering only one part of new testament? I mean all rules.. For example: why we execute everything what is written about what is right or wrong, bet we don't use headscarves? (well, I understand that a part of us do that too, but most of us don't)
So, this is my qestion...

Forgive me for my horrible english, but I just NEEEEEEEEED to ask ;D
I hope you understand my question...

God bless you all :)

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AnandaHya

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perhaps you are confused about the distinction between the Law and the Gospel?

Many people are.

Jesus taught us that by following the SPIRIT of the laws we would fulfill the Letter of the law. Many people teach a list of rules to do and not do but do not have the personal relationship with the Holy Spirit that guides them to all righteousness.

Jesus expanded upon the ten commandments in that He not only addressed what was said and done but what was thought and felt in people's hearts.

For example adultery. most taught it was concerning the act itself. Jesus taught that even the thought was a sin and we are to tear down strongholds and make captive ANY thought that war against the knowledge of Christ. If we do that and obey the Spirit then there will be no place for sin in us or in our lives.

Does that make sense?

Is that what your asking about?
 
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Lucy68

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fightingforthelight said:
Hey, guys!

I've got a question... Why are we considering only one part of new testament? I mean all rules.. For example: why we execute everything what is written about what is right or wrong, bet we don't use headscarves? (well, I understand that a part of us do that too, but most of us don't)
So, this is my qestion...

Forgive me for my horrible english, but I just NEEEEEEEEED to ask ;D
I hope you understand my question...

God bless you all :)

Ruta
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Many people interpret Paul's words about 'head coverings' as hair; not necessarily scarves or hats.
 
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fightingforthelight

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But what if, for example,what if I FEEL that, masturbation and everything like that is not bad? How will you say that it's wrong? You are using Bible... But if it's like you are saying, AnandaHya, then I don't know... what to think anymore...

God bless
 
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fightingforthelight said:
But what if, for example,what if I FEEL that, masturbation and everything like that is not bad? How will you say that it's wrong? You are using Bible... But if it's like you are saying, AnandaHya, then I don't know... what to think anymore...

God bless
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Sweetie, you need to study the Bible for yourself so you can get all of this straightened out in your mind. Start with the New Testament.

You won't find masturbation as a topic in the Bible! But you will find scriptures telling you to not be a slave to your human passions. For example, over-eating is gluttony and that's listed as a sin in the New Testament. Homosexuality is listed as a sin. God created sex....but He put boundaries around it because He knew we'd get carried away with it :)

These 'rules' that God gives us are for our own PROTECTION....sometimes from ourselves and sometimes from the world. He's not just trying to throw His weight around. When you understand more about God, you will see that EVERYTHING He does and says is because He LOVES US and He wants us back in relationship with Him. That's why He sent His Son to die for us :)
 
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hislastwalk

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Lucy68 said:
Sweetie, you need to study the Bible for yourself so you can get all of this straightened out in your mind. Start with the New Testament.

You won't find masturbation as a topic in the Bible! But you will find scriptures telling you to not be a slave to your human passions. For example, over-eating is gluttony and that's listed as a sin in the New Testament. Homosexuality is listed as a sin. God created sex....but He put boundaries around it because He knew we'd get carried away with it :)

These 'rules' that God gives us are for our own PROTECTION....sometimes from ourselves and sometimes from the world. He's not just trying to throw His weight around. When you understand more about God, you will see that EVERYTHING He does and says is because He LOVES US and He wants us back in relationship with Him. That's why He sent His Son to die for us :)
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I agree. I suggest that ANYONE reads the New Testament AT-LEAST 10 times before reading the Old. Really wanna get a firm foundation in the New Covenant.
 
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I suggest that ANYONE reads the New Testament AT-LEAST 10 times before reading the Old.
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Is that not like watching the movie and then read the book...

Or to start The Lord of the Rings at the middle of the Two towers? ;)

Naww... just joking.

I think you should read the New Testament first. If I had started to read the bible from the beginning I might just freak out if I did not know that the New testament was coming. OT is a bit more... violent and scary so to speak.
 
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Helloimandrewyo

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hislastwalk said:
I agree. I suggest that ANYONE reads the New Testament AT-LEAST 10 times before reading the Old. Really wanna get a firm foundation in the New Covenant.
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Man, i disagree. I think going into christianity with that mindest is horribly slanted. It says you shouldn't take anything away from the bible, or add to it. Skipping over the foundation, to read basically the commentary on the foundation seems like your building your house upon sand. You have to understand your roots before you can grasp who you are.
 
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Helloimandrewyo

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fightingforthelight said:
Hey, guys!

I've got a question... Why are we considering only one part of new testament? I mean all rules.. For example: why we execute everything what is written about what is right or wrong, bet we don't use headscarves? (well, I understand that a part of us do that too, but most of us don't)
So, this is my qestion...

Forgive me for my horrible english, but I just NEEEEEEEEED to ask ;D
I hope you understand my question...

God bless you all :)

Ruta
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I kind of agree with you. I think people do suffer from pick and choose christianity. Every religion has that problem, but i think christians tend to be the worst because it draws so many walks of life. Its not like other religions that are centralized around ethnic groups.

As far as the head coveriong topic. I know some people feel it means covering, and just write it off as well my hair covers my head, that counts. Yet maybe there is more to that passage.

Unfortunately people don't like feeling uncomfortable, and in a feel good society, it kinda crosses over into religion too. A lot of issues that would make someone stand out, or appear different are usually overlooked, and usually discarded on the bases of "well society isn't like that anymore."

God hasn't ever appeared to work on a pop culture bases, mainly because there isn't any new sin under the sun. Nothing has really changed at all, its just a different color.
 
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As far as the head covering is concerned read 1 Corinthians 11:1-16
“Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ. Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you. But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head. But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels. Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord. For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God. Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered? Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering. But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.”

A head covering is also according to the custom. If your culture has the norm to wear a head covering then do, if not then don't. It is not a LAW by God to wear one. It is pretty well according to culture.
 
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Nattmaran said:
I think you should read the New Testament first. If I had started to read the bible from the beginning I might just freak out if I did not know that the New testament was coming. OT is a bit more... violent and scary so to speak.
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The Old Testament honestly isn't THAT bad. Or at least...I don't think so
 
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Kyouken01

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There are times where we have to stick to what we know rather than what we feel...
There are times when I don't feel loved, there are times when I don't feel like I'm worth anything, but the Bible says otherwise.
And if the Bible is contrary to my feelings, I tend to let the Bible win that fight :)
 
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hislastwalk

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Helloimandrewyo said:
Man, i disagree. I think going into christianity with that mindest is horribly slanted. It says you shouldn't take anything away from the bible, or add to it. Skipping over the foundation, to read basically the commentary on the foundation seems like your building your house upon sand. You have to understand your roots before you can grasp who you are.
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You gotta get your foundation on the New Covenent. You can't find God in the OT UNLESS you're looking for references to Jesus. If you read the OT first, without understanding Christs finished works, then your way of thinking gets all screwy, atleast for a lot of people.

Jesus is the foundation, and He's the roots.
 
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hislastwalk

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Helloimandrewyo said:
I kind of agree with you. I think people do suffer from pick and choose christianity. Every religion has that problem, but i think christians tend to be the worst because it draws so many walks of life. Its not like other religions that are centralized around ethnic groups.

As far as the head coveriong topic. I know some people feel it means covering, and just write it off as well my hair covers my head, that counts. Yet maybe there is more to that passage.

Unfortunately people don't like feeling uncomfortable, and in a feel good society, it kinda crosses over into religion too. A lot of issues that would make someone stand out, or appear different are usually overlooked, and usually discarded on the bases of "well society isn't like that anymore."

God hasn't ever appeared to work on a pop culture bases, mainly because there isn't any new sin under the sun. Nothing has really changed at all, its just a different color.
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"But their minds were closed, and even today that same covering hides the meaning when they read the old agreement. That covering is taken away only through Christ. Even today, when they read the law of Moses, there is a covering over their minds. But when a person changes and follows the Lord, that covering is taken away. The Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom." - 2 Corinthians 3:14-17
 
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hislastwalk

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It quoted the wrong comment,but that verse goes a long with what I was saying.
 
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Helloimandrewyo

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hislastwalk said:
You gotta get your foundation on the New Covenent. You can't find God in the OT UNLESS you're looking for references to Jesus. If you read the OT first, without understanding Christs finished works, then your way of thinking gets all screwy, atleast for a lot of people.

Jesus is the foundation, and He's the roots.
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The order of melkezidek runs through the old testament. Didn't start with Jesus. I strongly disagree with what you are saying. If you can't find God in the old testement without looking at NT prophecy, then there is a problems at the core of understanding. God is the same yesterday, today, and forever, no one should ever have any problems seeing him in whatever passage they read, cause he hasn't changed.

If the old testament seems overwhelming, its because it is. So is a relationship with God, but all relationships are overwhelming. Its a good sign that its going good when you are stressed out. I would encourage people not to be afraid of what they have problems comprehending. Knock and it shall be opened unto you, seek and you will find....
 
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Helloimandrewyo said:
The order of melkezidek runs through the old testament. Didn't start with Jesus. I strongly disagree with what you are saying. If you can't find God in the old testement without looking at NT prophecy, then there is a problems at the core of understanding. God is the same yesterday, today, and forever, no one should ever have any problems seeing him in whatever passage they read, cause he hasn't changed.

If the old testament seems overwhelming, its because it is. So is a relationship with God, but all relationships are overwhelming. Its a good sign that its going good when you are stressed out. I would encourage people not to be afraid of what they have problems comprehending. Knock and it shall be opened unto you, seek and you will find....
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I'm gonna sound sooo stupid. but what's a melkezidek?? :confused:
 
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