Clubbing? is that a sin ?

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Gabriel777

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IT'S CRAZY!!! TOTALLY! Do God cares if you dance or not?? No, because it's not important. YOU ARE IMPORTANT!
I think it's just too much to think what is right and wrong, what God want and don't want us to do. When we are thinking like that then we are changing real picture of God. And "suddenly" God is becoming kind of cruel, not hearken and stupid God that wants only that everybody would be holy of their selves... WTF????? Where is a real God that doesn't care about all these, that loves you no matter what...?

God bless you :)
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Ruta
Ok so lets do whatever we want because God doesn't care. God is looooooooove and He loves usssss.
 

hhhlga89

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When I got saved, I tried enjoying a club and all I could do was be grieved by the debauchery there...so, based on my experience and the bible, if you go and enjoy it, your most likely not saved.
 

hhhlga89

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I think I should write more..

2 Peter 2:7,8 -
and if he rescued righteous Lot, greatly distressed by the sensual conduct of the wicked (for as that righteous man lived among them day after day, he was tormenting his righteous soul over their lawless deeds that he saw and heard);

If you are saved you should too be "vexed in your righteous soul" over the debauchery that is taking place at the club. THE CLUB IS WHERE PEOPLE WHO HATE GOD GO.

Lets see what happens at the club:
1) Drunkenness - debauchery
2) Sexual immoral dancing and activity
3) Drugs
4) Occasional fight, scuffles, and other crime
5) Sinful music glorifying sin

*The people love the darkness in the club because the know its sinful. I know darkness in the bible is used spiritually, but Adam and Eve too went to a place to hide from God when they were in sin.. just a side thought.

Acts 17:16 -
Now while Paul was waiting for them at Athens, his spirit was provoked within him as he saw that the city was full of idols.

These are example of saved people and their reaction to OTHER PEOPLES sin AROUND them. Are you too grieved about the sins of the people around you when you enter into a place like the club, or do you enjoy it along with them? If you do, your probably not saved.

Galatians 5:19-21 -
Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things WILL NOT INHERENT THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

Take these words very seriously, idc what your theology is, if you engage or approve of these things your not going to enter into the Kingdom of God. You will go to hell.

Romans 1:32 -
Though they know God’s decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.

Your giving approval to the practice of sin when you don't even rebuke it but express happiness in the presence of it. Trust me. Also, if your going your saying it's not sin (though it clearly is), if not, then why are you going?

John 1 John 2:15-17 -
Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride in possessions—is not from the Father but is from the world. And the world is passing away along with its desires, but whoever does the will of God abides forever.

You cannot deny that club and venues like it are worldly, it is undoubtedly one of the most secular recreations for young adults in not only America, but probably the whole world. But in case you don't agree, look at the three descriptions of the damnable things in the world:

1) Desires of the flesh - c'mon. The sensual dancing, the seeking after sexual partners, the perverse activities that go on at the club, alcohol, drugs, the flesh loves these things.
3) Desires of the eyes - lust.
2) Pride in possessions - money, wanting to be seen. (the NIV says - "boasting of what he has and does")

So...based on the bible, I don't see how a saved person can enjoy the club. I want to say, you said you've only been there once, I don't know what your spiritual condition was when you went, so I AM NOT JUDGING YOU. We can judge, but I'm not cus I don't have all the info. But if after everything the bible says, you still choose to reject what it says and find some excuse to go, then you ought to realize what your spiritual condition is.. It seems useless for me to even say this though, because a born again person does not even have to read it to know its wrong..they should feel convicted by the Holy Spirit, idk why you don't..??
 

Lucy68

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im kinda confused, some people say go clubbing is a sin, because its like have some fun not in God's way
but another people say its not a sin if u only go to the club and dancing, u dont drink/smoke(in indonesia u can smoke when u r in the club)...

im not a party girl, but i love to dancing, soo yaaaaa now im kinda confused lol o.o

what do u think ?

Thank you guys, God Bless :)

I wouldn't consider it a sin in itself but it makes it easy to fall into sin....drinking lowers our inhibitions (which God put in us for a reason :) ). Plus, you may find yourself around types of people that are not good influences. Also, some of the dancing I've seen is very suggestive.
 

jandian

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Even if you managed not to drink and smoke and all the other don'ts of Christianity........The environment does nothing for the glory of God.
You love to dance? gather your friends in the kingdom, come together and sing and prayer and dance before the Lord....and there He would be in the midst. Muah.
 

Lucy68

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Even if you managed not to drink and smoke and all the other don'ts of Christianity........The environment does nothing for the glory of God.
You love to dance? gather your friends in the kingdom, come together and sing and prayer and dance before the Lord....and there He would be in the midst. Muah.

Actually the Bible does not address smoking and drinking. It does say somewhere about being drunk with the Holy Spirit instead wine. They did drink wine ... probably because it was safer than water :) .

I don't think we can say a Christian isn't a Christian because they smoke and drink. These are important issues; but not salvation issues.
 

jandian

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Actually the Bible does not address smoking and drinking. It does say somewhere about being drunk with the Holy Spirit instead wine. They did drink wine ... probably because it was safer than water :) .

I don't think we can say a Christian isn't a Christian because they smoke and drink. These are important issues; but not salvation issues.
That really wasnt the most important thing in my statement, but thx anyway for the correction
 
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violakat

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That really wasnt the most important thing in my statement, but thx anyway for the correction
I think she was saying what you were saying was coming across as legalism, which it was.

But I do with your second statement, even if we don't sin in deed, it doesn't mean we are doing what's right.
We can cause a stumbling block for others. Each situation we go into has to be weighed carefully.
 
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Sideburns

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#29
This is what God wants us to do according to his word. "1 thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast that which is good." So test it out, see if theres any good from going to the club, Pray about this and ask God to reveal to you if it is okay and I pray you will have a willingly heart to obey. And if you find there is evil in that place, God says this "1 Thessalonians 5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil" I hoped this has helped :) Peace and blessings
 
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I wouldn't club a dancing girl unless she attacked me first, and even then, only if I thought she really meant to hurt me. In that case, I think it would be ok.
 
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Depends who you are clubbing and for what reason.
 
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love-like-jesus1751

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my honest opinion is this. what are you doing at a club? as a christian we are called to be separated from the world (2 Corinthians 6:17) when you go to a club things are happening around you that God does not agree with, even though you dont participate in those things you are still there. we have to take care of our testimony. Lets say you see someone you know there, that person knows you are a christian and a week later you try to talk to them about Christ and how we have to separate ourselves from sin and that person says "well how come you were at the club?" even though you may not be doing anything wrong..the question is why are you there? we should honor Christ in everything that we do. God bless i hope i was of some help ~1~
 
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Zork

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im kinda confused, some people say go clubbing is a sin, because its like have some fun not in God's way
but another people say its not a sin if u only go to the club and dancing, u dont drink/smoke(in indonesia u can smoke when u r in the club)...

im not a party girl, but i love to dancing, soo yaaaaa now im kinda confused lol o.o

what do u think ?

Thank you guys, God Bless :)
I don't think I'd recommend it because of the worldy environment. But isn't sin as long as you don't make clubbing your God or do anything sinful there

Like some other people said, what are you going to do?

Are you going to get drunk?

Are you going to lust after guys?

Are you gonna make guys lust after you by dressing provocative?

Are you going to do anything sinful?


Lastly... I think while your going there... make it your mission to evangelize when you get the opportunity and be an example, not to sin.

One last thing, if your looking for a guy there, a bf, Christians are only allowed to marry Christians so I wouldn't see the point in dating a non-christian.

Yeah
 

Tsalagi

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It's not wrong to go out and dance and have fun. Safety wise, it's probably not a good idea to drink alcohol (in case of an emergency, you don't need to have impaired jugdement). But just going out to dance and talk and have fun is okay.
 
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suriturbo

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#35
I think I should write more..

2 Peter 2:7,8 -
and if he rescued righteous Lot, greatly distressed by the sensual conduct of the wicked (for as that righteous man lived among them day after day, he was tormenting his righteous soul over their lawless deeds that he saw and heard);

If you are saved you should too be "vexed in your righteous soul" over the debauchery that is taking place at the club. THE CLUB IS WHERE PEOPLE WHO HATE GOD GO.

Lets see what happens at the club:
1) Drunkenness - debauchery
2) Sexual immoral dancing and activity
3) Drugs
4) Occasional fight, scuffles, and other crime
5) Sinful music glorifying sin

*The people love the darkness in the club because the know its sinful. I know darkness in the bible is used spiritually, but Adam and Eve too went to a place to hide from God when they were in sin.. just a side thought.

Acts 17:16 -
Now while Paul was waiting for them at Athens, his spirit was provoked within him as he saw that the city was full of idols.

These are example of saved people and their reaction to OTHER PEOPLES sin AROUND them. Are you too grieved about the sins of the people around you when you enter into a place like the club, or do you enjoy it along with them? If you do, your probably not saved.

Galatians 5:19-21 -
Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things WILL NOT INHERENT THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

Take these words very seriously, idc what your theology is, if you engage or approve of these things your not going to enter into the Kingdom of God. You will go to hell.

Romans 1:32 -
Though they know God’s decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.

Your giving approval to the practice of sin when you don't even rebuke it but express happiness in the presence of it. Trust me. Also, if your going your saying it's not sin (though it clearly is), if not, then why are you going?

John 1 John 2:15-17 -
Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride in possessions—is not from the Father but is from the world. And the world is passing away along with its desires, but whoever does the will of God abides forever.

You cannot deny that club and venues like it are worldly, it is undoubtedly one of the most secular recreations for young adults in not only America, but probably the whole world. But in case you don't agree, look at the three descriptions of the damnable things in the world:

1) Desires of the flesh - c'mon. The sensual dancing, the seeking after sexual partners, the perverse activities that go on at the club, alcohol, drugs, the flesh loves these things.
3) Desires of the eyes - lust.
2) Pride in possessions - money, wanting to be seen. (the NIV says - "boasting of what he has and does")

So...based on the bible, I don't see how a saved person can enjoy the club. I want to say, you said you've only been there once, I don't know what your spiritual condition was when you went, so I AM NOT JUDGING YOU. We can judge, but I'm not cus I don't have all the info. But if after everything the bible says, you still choose to reject what it says and find some excuse to go, then you ought to realize what your spiritual condition is.. It seems useless for me to even say this though, because a born again person does not even have to read it to know its wrong..they should feel convicted by the Holy Spirit, idk why you don't..??
@hhhlga89.I agree with your entire post.Thank God,that you changed your mind and decided to write more on this topic.Because it was definitely needed.
 
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suriturbo

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my honest opinion is this. what are you doing at a club? as a christian we are called to be separated from the world (2 Corinthians 6:17) when you go to a club things are happening around you that God does not agree with, even though you dont participate in those things you are still there. we have to take care of our testimony. Lets say you see someone you know there, that person knows you are a christian and a week later you try to talk to them about Christ and how we have to separate ourselves from sin and that person says "well how come you were at the club?" even though you may not be doing anything wrong..the question is why are you there? we should honor Christ in everything that we do. God bless i hope i was of some help ~1~
@love-like-jesus1751.That's what I was thinking.As Born Again Christians we are supposed to be in the world but not of the world.I also would think any true saved person will be convicted in their spirit,by God.But maybe she is convicted in her spirit.That might be why she's asking if it's a sin to go clubbing?The Holy Ghost probaly already convicted her in the spirit,and deep down,she knows that enviroment isn't for God's people.And I hope this isn't the case,but she could be trying to ignore what God has already made clear to her,by convicted her spirit.And that is saved people/BornAgainChristians,have no place in the club.And by her coming on here,she probably was hoping someone would give her the green light,that there's nothing wrong with going to the club,as long as you don't_.Well, iam sure you can read the responses that she received on the topic.I like your response and hhhlga89's response.So,Amen to the both of your posts.
 

loveme1

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Yes, I have been a clubbing, drinking, dancing type in the past.

That was before i knew this world is evil.

Since accepting Yahshua the Messiah into my heart I have declined all offers to go clubbing.

I never gained anything from those night outs.... my behavior was of this "world".

Now I live for my Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah.

From experience the greatest joy and happiness comes from Salvation.

Knowing who we are, and what life is about makes clubbing seem very worthless.

Just thought I would share my before and after experience.

Peace and love to you all.
 
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Brighthouse

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Hi,Sister Pusparinjani,I will only speak for me on this.Many have already made some very good points!I to love to dance,and why did I dance?Because like you I really enjoyed it!Although I must say, I would not look as good as you would on any dance floor. After I became saved,I like you still went to the club,I still drank some,and smoked, and still had what I thought was a great deal of fun!

One day in College I was sharing Jesus with someone,who said,mark? What is the difference between you and any other so called believer? HUMM!!!You see what God was beginning to teach me,is that saying one is a believer does not make them one.( James 2:19-26) What made Abraham a friend to God was not in what he said,but rather in what he did!( verse 23-24)

Could I be causing another to stumble?ME???? Could you picture Jesus smoking a cig,talking about how much he came to love each of us?Can you picture Jesus dancing and jumping to worldly music?LOL Neither can I!! LOL The question now for me was this.What is the real cost to follow our Jesus? I really at that time did not know! Those who do choose to follow Jesus understand what it also means to follow him.

There are things our flesh enjoys that must be given up.The point I am making is this.The disciples who followed our Jesus followed him only up to a certain point!( Matt 26:56) When it came to putting self to death,they fled! Much as many of us do.When you go on an airplane you can ride in coach,but if you want to sit in a first class seat,it will cost you!

Hence the cost of truly becoming a true follower of our Jesus! To become one,we must be willing to pay the price to be one.A follower of Jesus does not measure his or her faith by others,but rather by the very Word of God they say they believe in.I sure judge you not!! I just want to give you a pause for a moment,the same pause I got from another brother in Christ.He did not judge my actions,he was looking for me to!

Now I do my dancing before the Lord,like David did.( 2 Sam 6:14) Dancing is to show oneself off,to expose another to yourself in a very real way,when you did dance did people not watch you? Perhaps in there mind, they did much more then watch.Hence why you left the field,you knew how good you are,no one had to tell you this! But you also were getting a tug by Holy Spirit in you as well.

And you gave in to him! I believe this was much harder for you to do,then for many! You sacrificed something!! You knew how good you were!And I am sure the money rolled in as well for you!But you gave this up!!That is BIG!!!Now perhaps as I did, you just need to know that the new direction you are taking will pay off in the long run for you.Sister!! it WILL! It already has.

We just have to dig deep into God's Word to find out our purpose in him for our life.This dear sister takes both our time,and our will to do this! The only question for you now is ,will you take that time? To have a friend, we must be willing to spend time with that person,we care about them enough to want to really get to know him or her.I have found no difference with our Jesus either! I do not tell you to read the bible for hours upon hours,and pray for hours upon hours! I rather say this to you.Is God worthy in our lives for equal time? It is a time of getting our lives in balance.I pray you will do that sis!I am so thankful for all here!It is not the questions in our life that always need to be answered,it is our actions that do.Blessing sis!( 1 Cor 1:4-9)
 
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Please know we are called to be separate from the world, and going to a club seems innocent to most of you, but God is calling His people out OF the world and its ways, you would be a better witness to your friends if you abstained from them, and told them why in a loving way.

Most professing Christians see no problems with imitating the world because the churches and youth groups are just the same, and are teaching a false gospel that your behavior has no bearing on your final salvation, so they resemble more of the world than the church of God.

1Jn 2:15 Do not love the world, nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him,
1Jn 2:16 because all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
1Jn 2:17 And the world passes away, and the lust of it, but he who does the will of God abides forever.


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Joh 10:27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.


Either you are one or the other, no such things as a sinning saint! A saint is walking in the present tense with Christ, being obedient, pure in heart and deed, and listening to His voice, then they follow Him on the narrow road. Luke 9-23. A real saint as described in the bible has crucified his flesh with Christ, Galatians 2-20, once and for all, hence I have been crucified, and thus they now walk in newness of life, 2 Corinthians 5-17. Cleansed and purified of all willful sin, through a real repentance and faith. 2 Corinthians 7-10-11. They must remain diligent and faithful to the truth, obey from the heart, and keep themselves undefiled from the world and its false ways! 1 John 2-15-17.



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bobo

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I dont think clubbing is a sin what is sinfull in dancing and having fun enjoy the life god has given you x