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I can understand your confusion. Women are very beautiful and there is a lure to them. However, I think you're confusing your attraction for appreciation of their beauty. It's easy to get the two confused because, we smell good, wear tight clothing to show off our bodies, fix our hair and makeup. The list goes on and on, to make us so appealing and desirable to the opposite sex. There's nothing wrong with you thinking, "Wow, she's pretty." That does not mean you're attracted to women.
Also, the subject is Taboo, which makes it more alluring. That's the reason that people develop foot fetishes and other things like that. They know they're not supposed to like it or do it, and that's what turns them on. We all love to rebel. We like to break the rules. It's in our nature to be tempted, to sin. Why else would God tell us to resist our flesh so much unless it was going to be a HUGE struggle for us?
Anyhow, if you would like to talk about it more, I can relate to your situation and I'll hear you out. I can see you feel convicted for your thoughts, and you should try praying to God about it. I don't want you to feel like an outcast or a freak, because you're not. There are so many people who have thoughts like this and even more, we all sin.
Also, the subject is Taboo, which makes it more alluring. That's the reason that people develop foot fetishes and other things like that. They know they're not supposed to like it or do it, and that's what turns them on. We all love to rebel. We like to break the rules. It's in our nature to be tempted, to sin. Why else would God tell us to resist our flesh so much unless it was going to be a HUGE struggle for us?
Anyhow, if you would like to talk about it more, I can relate to your situation and I'll hear you out. I can see you feel convicted for your thoughts, and you should try praying to God about it. I don't want you to feel like an outcast or a freak, because you're not. There are so many people who have thoughts like this and even more, we all sin.
... as if women are beautiful BY DEFINITION, lol. And btw, I don't think women should make themselves TOO desirable for the opposite sex. Why would you want to lead a man to sin? No offense, but when you say: we smell good, wear tight clothing to show off our bodies, fix our hair and makeup, I think you're describing prostitutes, not good christian women.
I can imagine behavior like that could even confuse other women, and give them unnatural feelings.
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Remember this God Loves all not just a few. Some have a heavier cross to cary than others. If you think you are gay and you are searching for God, he will guide you and show you the right way. You might have this feelings for the rest of your life, I believe it is when you act on those feelings that you sin. You may need to live a celibate life. I do now that you are not the only one who has ever dealt with this. It may help to get professional christian counselors to help you understand. If anyone tells you that you are evil for this they have not removed the dirt from their eyes.
God Bless you.
God Bless you.
Just remember God did not create you with these feelings, as many who are gay and Christian claim God made them attracted to the same sex, which is total blasphemy!
I urge you to get right with God first, your feelings about the same sex need to be repented of, cast out of your heart and mind, come clean before God though real repentance and faith, and make sure you are walking on the narrow road!
There should be not even a hint of immorality between Gods children, so just know the way is narrow, Few will find it, and those who are His have crucified their flesh with its desires and passions, you do NOT need to see a counselor, to help you cope with your lustful thoughts, you need to fall on your face in repentance and brokenness, seeking the mercy of God!
Jesus wasn't kidding when He said you must deny self, pick up your cross and follow Him on the narrow road!
Jesus suffered in His flesh, and so will we, so capturing your thoughts unto Him, and walking a pure life with Him, is a small price to pay, compared to what He did on the cross to set us Who obey Him free!
Php 4:8 Finally, my brothers, whatever things are true, whatever things are honest, whatever things are right, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report; if there is any virtue and if there is any praise, think on these things.
When one is truly converted, and has gone through the baptism of repentance, followed by a working faith in love, the critical aspect of this conversion will be manifested in what we think about. The mind is a powerful weapon to either do good or evil, as we learn from scripture that says, he who does what is evil (sins) is of the devil, from 1 John 3:8, and I believe the mind is the portal for Satan to cause havoc with those who are still divided in their hearts, loving the world on one hand, then loving God on the other.
We are commanded to love the Lord our God, with all our heart, mind, and strength, and also to capture all out though to Jesus Christ, 2Co 10:5 pulling down imaginations and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought into the obedience of Christ.
What a powerful scripture, calling us to guard our heart and mind in all areas of our life.
Sin begins in the mind or as a thought, Jas 1:13 Let no one being tempted say, I am tempted from God. For God is not tempted by evils, and He tempts no one.
Jas 1:14 But each one is tempted by his lusts, being drawn away and seduced by them.
Jas 1:15 Then when lust has conceived, it brings forth sin. And sin, when it is fully formed, brings forth death.
This clearly proves we are responsible before God for what we think about, and how these vile thoughts can lead to sin and death, there is no such thing as original sin, or the devil made me do it, no, sin begins in the mind, or in our thoughts, caused by what we PUT into it!
Are you filling your mind daily with the word of God? Seeking and digging deep for the truth as commanded by Jesus and the apostles? Are you challenging all the false teachings going on in the apostate churches today, or are you filling your mind and thoughts with all the vile propaganda on TV, Hollywood movies, all the witchcraft and magic books very popular in the church today?
I believe a truly converted person, will have a fire and passion for truth, seeking the wisdom of God with all his heart and soul, and will put away the foolish things, which cause distractions and divided hearts, against the pure teachings of Jesus Christ.
We cannot afford to let our guards down when it comes to what we put into our minds on a daily basis, we must not give the evil one a foothold, by opening the door just a little bit, no we must flee from all vileness, corruption, immorality, and the lies being propagated as truth in the church system today.
WE must put on the mind of Christ, follow the spirit of truth if we have been truly converted, then guard our heart and mind against the wiles of the devil, by abstaining from all appearances of evil, 1Th 5:21 Prove all things, hold fast to the good.
1Th 5:22 Abstain from every appearance of evil.
What we think about each day really matters, as the evil one wants us to get distracted, take our eyes and thoughts off of Christ, by putting thoughts into our minds that take us away from being a pure and holy bride, cleansed and purged of all vile thoughts, caused by what we put into it, through entertainments, conversations, music we focus on. Etc……
I know we are surrounded by the world, and all its lies, foul language, disrespect for Jesus, and God, worldly music, and foul jokes and conversations, there is no way around it, unless you are a monk, and lock yourself in a monastery forever. So being grounded in the truth, putting on the full armor of God, each and every day, hiding the word of God in your heart, praying, and standing aloof of the church system and all its lies and confusion, is a big step in keeping our thoughts focused on Christ, and walking an obedient life of faith, and heart purity.
Tommy
I urge you to get right with God first, your feelings about the same sex need to be repented of, cast out of your heart and mind, come clean before God though real repentance and faith, and make sure you are walking on the narrow road!
There should be not even a hint of immorality between Gods children, so just know the way is narrow, Few will find it, and those who are His have crucified their flesh with its desires and passions, you do NOT need to see a counselor, to help you cope with your lustful thoughts, you need to fall on your face in repentance and brokenness, seeking the mercy of God!
Jesus wasn't kidding when He said you must deny self, pick up your cross and follow Him on the narrow road!
Jesus suffered in His flesh, and so will we, so capturing your thoughts unto Him, and walking a pure life with Him, is a small price to pay, compared to what He did on the cross to set us Who obey Him free!
What are you thinking about?
Php 4:8 Finally, my brothers, whatever things are true, whatever things are honest, whatever things are right, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report; if there is any virtue and if there is any praise, think on these things.
When one is truly converted, and has gone through the baptism of repentance, followed by a working faith in love, the critical aspect of this conversion will be manifested in what we think about. The mind is a powerful weapon to either do good or evil, as we learn from scripture that says, he who does what is evil (sins) is of the devil, from 1 John 3:8, and I believe the mind is the portal for Satan to cause havoc with those who are still divided in their hearts, loving the world on one hand, then loving God on the other.
We are commanded to love the Lord our God, with all our heart, mind, and strength, and also to capture all out though to Jesus Christ, 2Co 10:5 pulling down imaginations and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought into the obedience of Christ.
What a powerful scripture, calling us to guard our heart and mind in all areas of our life.
Sin begins in the mind or as a thought, Jas 1:13 Let no one being tempted say, I am tempted from God. For God is not tempted by evils, and He tempts no one.
Jas 1:14 But each one is tempted by his lusts, being drawn away and seduced by them.
Jas 1:15 Then when lust has conceived, it brings forth sin. And sin, when it is fully formed, brings forth death.
This clearly proves we are responsible before God for what we think about, and how these vile thoughts can lead to sin and death, there is no such thing as original sin, or the devil made me do it, no, sin begins in the mind, or in our thoughts, caused by what we PUT into it!
Are you filling your mind daily with the word of God? Seeking and digging deep for the truth as commanded by Jesus and the apostles? Are you challenging all the false teachings going on in the apostate churches today, or are you filling your mind and thoughts with all the vile propaganda on TV, Hollywood movies, all the witchcraft and magic books very popular in the church today?
I believe a truly converted person, will have a fire and passion for truth, seeking the wisdom of God with all his heart and soul, and will put away the foolish things, which cause distractions and divided hearts, against the pure teachings of Jesus Christ.
We cannot afford to let our guards down when it comes to what we put into our minds on a daily basis, we must not give the evil one a foothold, by opening the door just a little bit, no we must flee from all vileness, corruption, immorality, and the lies being propagated as truth in the church system today.
WE must put on the mind of Christ, follow the spirit of truth if we have been truly converted, then guard our heart and mind against the wiles of the devil, by abstaining from all appearances of evil, 1Th 5:21 Prove all things, hold fast to the good.
1Th 5:22 Abstain from every appearance of evil.
What we think about each day really matters, as the evil one wants us to get distracted, take our eyes and thoughts off of Christ, by putting thoughts into our minds that take us away from being a pure and holy bride, cleansed and purged of all vile thoughts, caused by what we put into it, through entertainments, conversations, music we focus on. Etc……
I know we are surrounded by the world, and all its lies, foul language, disrespect for Jesus, and God, worldly music, and foul jokes and conversations, there is no way around it, unless you are a monk, and lock yourself in a monastery forever. So being grounded in the truth, putting on the full armor of God, each and every day, hiding the word of God in your heart, praying, and standing aloof of the church system and all its lies and confusion, is a big step in keeping our thoughts focused on Christ, and walking an obedient life of faith, and heart purity.
Tommy
Now let me try to understand this. Are you male? If you are then what you are saying would indicate that you are what is called "Straight" rather than Gay. I'm presuming you are male since you used the word "Gay" but are apparently attracted to women but are trying to figure this out.
The word "Gay" applies only to same-sex attracted MALES if you want to be totally correct. If you are not a male then usage of the word 'Gay' would be incorrect. The correct word then would be "LESBIAN". As that only applies to same-sex attracted females.
Obviously, one wouldn't say something like "That's a Lesbian male" or "That's a Lesbian Gay" By the same token one shouldn't say "That's a Gay female or a Gay Girl" as that would indicate someone who could be a hermaphrodite. I'm just trying to figure out what you are trying to say here. Thank you.
The word "Gay" applies only to same-sex attracted MALES if you want to be totally correct. If you are not a male then usage of the word 'Gay' would be incorrect. The correct word then would be "LESBIAN". As that only applies to same-sex attracted females.
Obviously, one wouldn't say something like "That's a Lesbian male" or "That's a Lesbian Gay" By the same token one shouldn't say "That's a Gay female or a Gay Girl" as that would indicate someone who could be a hermaphrodite. I'm just trying to figure out what you are trying to say here. Thank you.
Hi young sister, I read this the other day by a brother who is in his late 70's...
"But speaking the truth in love may grow up into Him in all things which is the head, even Christ." Speak the truth in love. Speak it to yourself and speak it to one another.
Some come to me and they are so discouraged and depressed, some people can be so full of lusts they are miserable. If you know the truth of their being, you begin to see them as God does. You don't see a lustful person, you... don't see someone full of anger and bitterness, but you see the seed of God that is in that person. You can literally speak life to their inner being. If you try to bring them correction, if you try to tell them they can't do what they are doing, if you try to adjust their outward carnal man in any way, you will fail. But if you will simply speak the truth in love, you will bless them.
Do you realize that in the very center of your being, far past your mind, far past your emotions and will, deeply embedded in your consciousness is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? The very seed of His life is in you. If you will simply learn how to water that seed and let me help you, let me continually fellowship with you, let me pray with you, let me minister to you and that seed in you will begin to grow. If you are lustful, when Christ begins to be formed in you that lust will fall away. If people sense no condemnation coming from you, if they sense nothing but a caring and a love and a concern to help them, they will change so quickly. If they don't, that's God's business and not yours. It is our responsibility to minister to them not to try and change them. "
So maybe sisterStrawberrigurl, if you have the courage and God leads you...maybe there are/will be, mature grace filled Christians in your life who will not tell you to repent of feelings...but who will simply shine love and no condemnation upon you. That is my heart prayer for you lil sister.
"But speaking the truth in love may grow up into Him in all things which is the head, even Christ." Speak the truth in love. Speak it to yourself and speak it to one another.
Some come to me and they are so discouraged and depressed, some people can be so full of lusts they are miserable. If you know the truth of their being, you begin to see them as God does. You don't see a lustful person, you... don't see someone full of anger and bitterness, but you see the seed of God that is in that person. You can literally speak life to their inner being. If you try to bring them correction, if you try to tell them they can't do what they are doing, if you try to adjust their outward carnal man in any way, you will fail. But if you will simply speak the truth in love, you will bless them.
Do you realize that in the very center of your being, far past your mind, far past your emotions and will, deeply embedded in your consciousness is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? The very seed of His life is in you. If you will simply learn how to water that seed and let me help you, let me continually fellowship with you, let me pray with you, let me minister to you and that seed in you will begin to grow. If you are lustful, when Christ begins to be formed in you that lust will fall away. If people sense no condemnation coming from you, if they sense nothing but a caring and a love and a concern to help them, they will change so quickly. If they don't, that's God's business and not yours. It is our responsibility to minister to them not to try and change them. "
So maybe sisterStrawberrigurl, if you have the courage and God leads you...maybe there are/will be, mature grace filled Christians in your life who will not tell you to repent of feelings...but who will simply shine love and no condemnation upon you. That is my heart prayer for you lil sister.
Actually I believe I am correct. I do however understand that some but certainly not all same-sex oriented females may also be inclined to use that word to apply to themselves but I heard it from a college professor who worked with LGBT people so I felt he ought to know enough about the proper usage of the term and to whom it mostly applies.
This is a very interesting website! It is short to read and very informative! In particular you might want to read the paragraph that starts with "By 1955 .... "
How ‘Gay’ Came to Mean ‘Homosexual’:
How
This is a very interesting website! It is short to read and very informative! In particular you might want to read the paragraph that starts with "By 1955 .... "
How ‘Gay’ Came to Mean ‘Homosexual’:
How
or just simply use a dictionary...gay  
gay [gey] Show IPA
adjective, gay·er, gay·est.
1.
homosexual.
2.
of, indicating, or supporting homosexual interests or issues: a gay organization.
3.
having or showing a merry, lively mood: gay spirits; gay music. Synonyms: cheerful, gleeful, happy, glad, cheery, lighthearted, joyous, joyful, jovial; sunny, lively, vivacious, sparkling; chipper, playful, jaunty, sprightly, blithe. Antonyms: serious, grave, solemn, joyless; staid, sedate; unhappy, morose, grim; sad, depressed, melancholy.
4.
bright or showy: gay colors; gay ornaments. Synonyms: colorful, brilliant, vivid, intense, lustrous; glittering, theatrical, flamboyant. Antonyms: dull, drab, somber, lackluster; conservative.
5.
Slang: Often Disparaging and Offensive. awkward, stupid, or bad; lame: This game is really gay.
gay [gey] Show IPA
adjective, gay·er, gay·est.
1.
homosexual.
2.
of, indicating, or supporting homosexual interests or issues: a gay organization.
3.
having or showing a merry, lively mood: gay spirits; gay music. Synonyms: cheerful, gleeful, happy, glad, cheery, lighthearted, joyous, joyful, jovial; sunny, lively, vivacious, sparkling; chipper, playful, jaunty, sprightly, blithe. Antonyms: serious, grave, solemn, joyless; staid, sedate; unhappy, morose, grim; sad, depressed, melancholy.
4.
bright or showy: gay colors; gay ornaments. Synonyms: colorful, brilliant, vivid, intense, lustrous; glittering, theatrical, flamboyant. Antonyms: dull, drab, somber, lackluster; conservative.
5.
Slang: Often Disparaging and Offensive. awkward, stupid, or bad; lame: This game is really gay.
Exactly, that's what I was pointing out. I wasn't saying it's okay to be that way, but that the majority of women are that way and that's why women get confused.. and men are tempted into sin. We agree on the same thing, just a miscommunication. 
Having read through all the thread I wonder if our sister was helped at all?
Some great advice in there though.
I just want to say again what the quote I posted said....KEEP COMING TO GOD!! Strawberrigurl, dont allow condemnation to keep you from coming to your Father in heaven. It is not as if He does not know your inner thoughts , He does..He is in you, present in you now and always. So it has not come as a surprise to Him. The thing is though, just do what Tommy said...choose to...turn your thoughts to Jesus...Go into your room, shut the door and pray..secret place of prayer with Him. He is not comdemning you, but welcomes you with all your problems. You do not have to try to be righteous BEFORE coming to Him...just come as the mess you (and all of us) are.
You will never overcome anything by trying.
Just keep coming to Jesus , ask him to fill you with His Spirit.
You are forgiven all your sins already..so says Col 2:13,14
When you realise that inside..then sin loses its power.
Bless you lil sister.
Some great advice in there though.
I just want to say again what the quote I posted said....KEEP COMING TO GOD!! Strawberrigurl, dont allow condemnation to keep you from coming to your Father in heaven. It is not as if He does not know your inner thoughts , He does..He is in you, present in you now and always. So it has not come as a surprise to Him. The thing is though, just do what Tommy said...choose to...turn your thoughts to Jesus...Go into your room, shut the door and pray..secret place of prayer with Him. He is not comdemning you, but welcomes you with all your problems. You do not have to try to be righteous BEFORE coming to Him...just come as the mess you (and all of us) are.
You will never overcome anything by trying.
Just keep coming to Jesus , ask him to fill you with His Spirit.
You are forgiven all your sins already..so says Col 2:13,14
When you realise that inside..then sin loses its power.
Bless you lil sister.
C
Don't worry about it. If you're gay then so what? I agree with the person who said you have to make sure that it is actually homosexuality and not just appreciating someone else's looks. But if you are that's perfectly fine. You'll drive yourself into depression if you try to change who you are.
As for figuring out if you actually are gay, the only one who can really know is you.
As for figuring out if you actually are gay, the only one who can really know is you.
B
Sorry Chaz but that is not sound advise, being gay is not OK !! we all have lusts and different temptations that we learn to turn from because we know they are wrong and grieve the Holy spirit.
I myself have temptations and sexual issues that I am learning to lean and seek Gods guidance on true repentance and know that I am set free from them..I take it one day at a time.. but wrong is wrong and right is right..
I do not want someone telling me that what I am doing wrong is OK cause its NOT and should someone tell another person that the sin they are lost in is OK then we are misguiding them to truth and may need to examin their own salvation..
Be blessed
George
I myself have temptations and sexual issues that I am learning to lean and seek Gods guidance on true repentance and know that I am set free from them..I take it one day at a time.. but wrong is wrong and right is right..
I do not want someone telling me that what I am doing wrong is OK cause its NOT and should someone tell another person that the sin they are lost in is OK then we are misguiding them to truth and may need to examin their own salvation..
Be blessed
George