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C
it depends, what do you mean by "going further"? like i think kissing is okay, if you've been with that person long enough, and if they're a christian too of course, i don't think you should EVER date a nonchristian. i would never look down upon someone for doig it though, i would just be super worried about then and try to get them to understand that it's wrong. hope this helped 
R
I agree with Christian blonde. I think kissing is okay as long as the relationship is pretty strong. But being impure does not necesarily mean doing physical things. Simply thinking the wrong sexual thoughts is being impure. I don't think that true Christians would look down upon you or judge you. That is not our place in this world. But if you always want to be on the "safe" side just don't do anything. When in doubt, do nothing. God bless.
By the way, I thought this was an interesting question and I am curious to see what others think.
By the way, I thought this was an interesting question and I am curious to see what others think.
C
kissing would be okaay,
Depends on how far yuur goingg
& they defo shouldnt look down on yuur, were all sinners and therefor the only person who should be allowed to pass judgement is God.
& also, I think its totally finee if you date a non christian ? to blondiee and otherss, As christians we should be spreading the word and therefor spending time with non-christians lol, So dating a non-christian could be good, Gives you opportunities to convert them. & / or family.
Depends on how far yuur goingg
& they defo shouldnt look down on yuur, were all sinners and therefor the only person who should be allowed to pass judgement is God.
& also, I think its totally finee if you date a non christian ? to blondiee and otherss, As christians we should be spreading the word and therefor spending time with non-christians lol, So dating a non-christian could be good, Gives you opportunities to convert them. & / or family.
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This is something us volunteers have been asked manytimes by our high school students/ For me since i have become a christian i feel that any action that leads to inpure thoughts is a sin. But no one has the right to look down on anyone. Jesus died for all of us. I feel each person has to make a desision on that they feel is ok. If you can kiss and be okay with just that then good. but if it leads to more its best to avoid it.
F
heres a quote i pretty much live by "only God can judge me" cuz in the end its gonna b God that determines it all...but yeah everyone judges ppl at a point...i dont judge unless they r really big and bad things that Im really against...
I have a son and Im not married never been married and I been "unpure" since my freshman yr of high school...dont trip on it...if u wanna talk sometime im here idk
~B
Y
speaking of that..im new here and im trying to become a catholic again i was an athiest/agnostic for awhile and i kinda had a realization..i have some questions..like i think i might be bi and i would like to change that..is it a sin cause i always here it is but its not like im a lesbian or anything but i am more attracted to girls..can i change??
i was an athiest/agnostic for awhile and i kinda had a realization..i have some questions..like i think i might be bi and i would like to change that..is it a sin cause i always here it is but its not like im a lesbian or anything but i am more attracted to girls..can i change??
F
Just kissing someone does not make them impure. When you have premarital sex, that is impurity because it is the same as sexual immorality. In the Bible, we are told that sex is meant for a husband and a wife. Although most Christians may look down on it, they shouldn't because then they are judging you and we are not the ones to be judging others. That is God's job. If you ask for forgiveness, and you are very sincere, God will forgive you and will wipe away all of your sins. But you have to truly be sorry for what you did wrong.
Z
I have found that when I try to suppress thoughts of sexuality they become ever harder to keep down. It is perfectly human to have sexual thoughts, but when you let these thoughts rule you, you are making a mistake.
I have tried to live by the doctrine that I am not my thoughts. I cannot control what random things my subconscious brings before me, but I can let these thoughts run their course, and give them no attention. If I try to suppress a thought it comes back at me. If I let it be, it usually leaves.
All I'm trying to say is that I do not think that having impure thoughts makes you impure. I think that letting these thoughts control you does.
I have tried to live by the doctrine that I am not my thoughts. I cannot control what random things my subconscious brings before me, but I can let these thoughts run their course, and give them no attention. If I try to suppress a thought it comes back at me. If I let it be, it usually leaves.
All I'm trying to say is that I do not think that having impure thoughts makes you impure. I think that letting these thoughts control you does.
G
speaking of that..im new here and im trying to become a catholic again i was an athiest/agnostic for awhile and i kinda had a realization..i have some questions..like i think i might be bi and i would like to change that..is it a sin cause i always here it is but its not like im a lesbian or anything but i am more attracted to girls..can i change??
i was an athiest/agnostic for awhile and i kinda had a realization..i have some questions..like i think i might be bi and i would like to change that..is it a sin cause i always here it is but its not like im a lesbian or anything but i am more attracted to girls..can i change??
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Kissing is not okay the first kiss should be on the wedding day! Be careful people we are products of our wicked American culture that is against God and we have been molded by this culture to believe that dating and kissing and all this other stuff is okay, when it actually is sensual, unholy, and demonic.
Please check out these sermons if you are truly concerned about holiness and pleasing God:
http://www.heartcrymissionary.com/download.php?file=Dating.mp3
http://www.heartcrymissionary.com/download.php?file=01-Courtship-Part-1.mp3
http://www.heartcrymissionary.com/download.php?file=02-Courtship-Part-2.mp3
http://www.puritanfellowship.com/2009/06/biblical-principles-for-family-four.html
Please check out these sermons if you are truly concerned about holiness and pleasing God:
http://www.heartcrymissionary.com/download.php?file=Dating.mp3
http://www.heartcrymissionary.com/download.php?file=01-Courtship-Part-1.mp3
http://www.heartcrymissionary.com/download.php?file=02-Courtship-Part-2.mp3
http://www.puritanfellowship.com/2009/06/biblical-principles-for-family-four.html
K
I have to say, my dad married my mom when she wasn't a christian. Then later she came to know the Lord! They have been married for 22 years now. You shouldn't date someone who isn't christian, but if you do be careful not to let them convince you to lose your love for the Lord. And going physical is a sin before you're married definitely, but you will be forgiven if you do anything, Do NOT do it because you will be forgiven though. We need to live like Jesus lived, we need to strive to be like him. Now kissing is okay when the time is right. My friend goes through boy after boy, she doesn't care when she breaks up, its not a real relationship. Be careful what you do! God Bless!!
Krissy1250
Krissy1250
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My dear friend be careful with how you handle the word of God and the claims you make especially on such an issue as this. Do you realize how heavy language Jesus and the apostles used in regard to this matter? If a person is willing to continue on in sin "because they think they'll be forgiven" - this person needs to examine themselves to see if they are truly saved or not. Consider what the word of God says:
(2 Corinthians 6:14) Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?
(Matthew 5:28-29) Jesus said, "I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into Hell."
(John 5:14) Afterward Jesus found [the leper who was healed] in the temple, and said to him, "See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you."
(Hebrews 10:26-27) For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.
(Hebrews 13:4) Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge.
(1 Corinthians 6:9-10) Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
My friends we are commanded not to be joined with unbelievers. If you are already married then you must do your duty as a husband or wife and love your spouse of course, but if you are single and looking, God has clearly revealed His will for you in this matter. Those who are single - beware. Even just a look with lust God sees as adultery in the heart. How much more wicked then is the act of going physical! If you're planning on doing this and think you'll be okay because "you're forgiven" you might want to think again because even though your parents or your pastor might tell you you're saved no matter what, God declares in His word that if you continue on in sin even after you've known the truth, there will be no sacrifice remaining for you except fiery judgment and condemnation in Hell. Instead of planning on sin and fornication you ought to be cutting off your hands and feet and plucking out your eyes (spiritually speaking). Sexual immorality is such a dangerous and destructive thing that, while the Bible tells us to stand our ground and fight Satan with the armor of God (Ephesians 6), it commands us to FLEE from sexual immorality! Please take heed to the word of God here and stop fooling around. Just because God doesn't immediately exact punishment for sins right after you commit them doesn't mean He'll just sweep it under the rug. The Bible says God will judge those who practice adultery/fornication and that they will not enter the kingdom of Heaven.
(2 Corinthians 6:14) Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?
(Matthew 5:28-29) Jesus said, "I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into Hell."
(John 5:14) Afterward Jesus found [the leper who was healed] in the temple, and said to him, "See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you."
(Hebrews 10:26-27) For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.
(Hebrews 13:4) Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge.
(1 Corinthians 6:9-10) Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
My friends we are commanded not to be joined with unbelievers. If you are already married then you must do your duty as a husband or wife and love your spouse of course, but if you are single and looking, God has clearly revealed His will for you in this matter. Those who are single - beware. Even just a look with lust God sees as adultery in the heart. How much more wicked then is the act of going physical! If you're planning on doing this and think you'll be okay because "you're forgiven" you might want to think again because even though your parents or your pastor might tell you you're saved no matter what, God declares in His word that if you continue on in sin even after you've known the truth, there will be no sacrifice remaining for you except fiery judgment and condemnation in Hell. Instead of planning on sin and fornication you ought to be cutting off your hands and feet and plucking out your eyes (spiritually speaking). Sexual immorality is such a dangerous and destructive thing that, while the Bible tells us to stand our ground and fight Satan with the armor of God (Ephesians 6), it commands us to FLEE from sexual immorality! Please take heed to the word of God here and stop fooling around. Just because God doesn't immediately exact punishment for sins right after you commit them doesn't mean He'll just sweep it under the rug. The Bible says God will judge those who practice adultery/fornication and that they will not enter the kingdom of Heaven.
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@yogieburr. If you read the bible, Jesus says "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man cometh unto the father but by me." Becoming Catholic isn't going to help your spiritual condition. But, i have good news! The ONLY WAY you can get to heaven is through Jesus and only Jesus. You aren't going to get to heaven by living a good life, going to church or reading the bible daily. The bible makes it clear that the only way to live eternally with God is to admit that you can't get to heaven on your own and accept Jesus Christ as your saviour and the ONLY way to heaven. The bible says, "Not of works lest any man should boast." Jesus is the only way!
Just an idea (I like to throw spanners in works) but....
The notion of not kissing somebody within a relationship is against all human traits.
The body naturally cries out for contact - it's how we are genetically programmed. When we are upset - we enjoy the council of a hug - begs to reason.
I guess kissing could be classified as sinful when the action of the kiss invokes feelings within your heart that you wish to do more - this leading into temptation.
But it can also be argued that being on the verge on this temptation is what keeps the relationship exciting and new - Anybody can agree relationships are exciting when you fancy the pants of the person your dating.
Doesn't mean to say that you actually enter into the sin of premarital sexual relations - that is for you to limit.
Remember - we are not here to be righteous sin dodgers. It is in our very nature to sin and we walk with the Spirit and trust Jesus to help us avoid sin - sometimes it can be a part of life.
We have to experience to realise - not realise to anaylise.
Realistically - how many would marry with the absence of attraction, excitement, trust, respect and willingness of heart - after all - human to human these are essential for a relationship to workout.
In essence, kissing is not the sin - maybe the thoughts that mat go with the kissing MAY be viewed as such but surely;
If we all didn't kiss and didn't make these thoughts - nobody would ever actually fancy anybody?
How many people married because you were into the same stuff and had a common goal with the absence of attraction?
Just a thought as reading between the lines of dane_g87's post - it seems we are unable - through the fear of disgrace to be attracted physically to anybody.
The notion of not kissing somebody within a relationship is against all human traits.
The body naturally cries out for contact - it's how we are genetically programmed. When we are upset - we enjoy the council of a hug - begs to reason.
I guess kissing could be classified as sinful when the action of the kiss invokes feelings within your heart that you wish to do more - this leading into temptation.
But it can also be argued that being on the verge on this temptation is what keeps the relationship exciting and new - Anybody can agree relationships are exciting when you fancy the pants of the person your dating.
Doesn't mean to say that you actually enter into the sin of premarital sexual relations - that is for you to limit.
Remember - we are not here to be righteous sin dodgers. It is in our very nature to sin and we walk with the Spirit and trust Jesus to help us avoid sin - sometimes it can be a part of life.
We have to experience to realise - not realise to anaylise.
Realistically - how many would marry with the absence of attraction, excitement, trust, respect and willingness of heart - after all - human to human these are essential for a relationship to workout.
In essence, kissing is not the sin - maybe the thoughts that mat go with the kissing MAY be viewed as such but surely;
If we all didn't kiss and didn't make these thoughts - nobody would ever actually fancy anybody?
How many people married because you were into the same stuff and had a common goal with the absence of attraction?
Just a thought as reading between the lines of dane_g87's post - it seems we are unable - through the fear of disgrace to be attracted physically to anybody.