Piercings and Tattoos?

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Piercing or tattoo?

  • Piercing

    Votes: 36 20.6%

  • tattoo

    Votes: 27 15.4%

  • neither

    Votes: 81 46.3%

  • both

    Votes: 31 17.7%
  • Total voters
    175
kingerik

kingerik

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Not a fan of tats or piercings, but if you use Leviticus then that means we are not allowed to get haircuts...etc. You can't pick and choose in the OT, you follow all or you follow none, furthermore, tats were used for pagan rituals and practices . The law is abolished...however, NT says our body is God's temple...do you have permission to draw on his temple.

If you feel conflicted then it's best not to do it or seek God about it...but it is not a sin and it depends on your convictions.
 
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faroukfarouk

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SavedByTheGraceOfGod said:
I agree - I think tattoos are ungodly...and I have one. Leviticus 19:28 reads, "You shall not make any cuts in your flesh for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the Lord." Before being saved, I was very much into new age and freedom for all to do what they wanted etc. My thought was that as long as I didn't get a lot of tattoos, then it was ok. I was planning on a couple more, but not too many. My husband has a huge sleeve tattoo with all our families star signs represented on it. Now that I have converted, and my mind is no longer filled with the trash that satan puts in it, I know that I'll never get another tattoo again. I can't imagine now ever marking my body like that again. My mind is so renewed, and so much more inline with how we God created us (without all the lies that satan makes us believe), that the last thing I want to do is mark my body permanently. I don't think tattoos are grave sins personally, but any sin that is consistently given into can become a grave sin...so tattoos are things I now personally think are ungodly
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Do you think a faith based tattoo design (Bible ref., Christian fish sign <><, etc.) can be an effective conversation-starter in witness?
 
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ChristianJuggalo

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RedTent said:
Do you have scripture to back this up? I have much scripture to back up that God is speaking to all people He created when He gives scripture.

I used a search engine, for instance, to search for "the stranger" and the "foreigner" that OT used to speak of the gentiles. All the scriptures I found taught that all who knew God was one, the true God, were included, and to be treated as such. I searched all scripture about the responsibilities God gave Abraham and his descendants. I found nothing to say that God was not thinking of all His creation in anything He said or did in his instructions to the Hebrews.

Did you find scripture that taught differently?
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Then I will no longer shave my beard or eat red meat because according to what your sayin we're to abide to the old testament laes oh hey how bout if I not work on the "sabbath" but when would yhat be exactly be saturday or sunday because according to Christians its Sunday but to Jews its Saturday so which is it because what you said is completely irrelevant
 
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faroukfarouk

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ChristianJuggalo said:
Then I will no longer shave my beard or eat red meat because according to what your sayin we're to abide to the old testament laes oh hey how bout if I not work on the "sabbath" but when would yhat be exactly be saturday or sunday because according to Christians its Sunday but to Jews its Saturday so which is it because what you said is completely irrelevant
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Do you have piercings/tattoos? faith based design, maybe?
 
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ChristianJuggalo

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kingerik said:
Not a fan of tats or piercings, but if you use Leviticus then that means we are not allowed to get haircuts...etc. You can't pick and choose in the OT, you follow all or you follow none, furthermore, tats were used for pagan rituals and practices . The law is abolished...however, NT says our body is God's temple...do you have permission to draw on his temple.

If you feel conflicted then it's best not to do it or seek God about it...but it is not a sin and it depends on your convictions.
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I completely agree I think people need to stop playing God and take the plank out of their own eye
 
shrimp

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kingerik said:
Not a fan of tats or piercings, but if you use Leviticus then that means we are not allowed to get haircuts...etc. You can't pick and choose in the OT, you follow all or you follow none, furthermore, tats were used for pagan rituals and practices . The law is abolished...however, NT says our body is God's temple...do you have permission to draw on his temple.

If you feel conflicted then it's best not to do it or seek God about it...but it is not a sin and it depends on your convictions.
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The Law was not abolished. Jesus said that He didn't come to destroy the law but to fulfill it. Which means that He obeyed the law to perfection, something that no one else has ever done.
 
kingerik

kingerik

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shrimp said:
The Law was not abolished. Jesus said that He didn't come to destroy the law but to fulfill it. Which means that He obeyed the law to perfection, something that no one else has ever done.
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So answer me this...do you or do you not follow the law then? If the law is not abolished then Jesus failed at what he came to do.

If the law is still valid today then I guess a whole of Christians are in trouble...dang...I just got a haircut for Easter. When you say the law is not abolished...what that translates to...Jesus death accomplished nothing. understand that verse you used in context...in it's original writings.
 
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ChristianJuggalo

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Revelation 19:11-16
Christ on a White Horse

11*Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him*was*called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war.*12*His eyes*were*like a flame of fire, and on His head*were*many crowns. He had[e]*a name written that no one knew except Himself.*13*He*was*clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.*14*And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean,[f]*followed Him on white horses.*15*Now out of His mouth goes a sharp[g]*sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.*16*And He has on*His*robe and on His thigh a name written:KING OF KINGS ANDLORD OF LORDS.
 
shrimp

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kingerik said:
So answer me this...do you or do you not follow the law then? If the law is not abolished then Jesus failed at what he came to do.

If the law is still valid today then I guess a whole of Christians are in trouble...dang...I just got a haircut for Easter. When you say the law is not abolished...what that translates to...Jesus death accomplished nothing. understand that verse you used in context...in it's original writings.
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I do try to learn the law to do my best and follow it. Not because it makes me "holier than thou".
The purpose of the law is three-fold: The law teaches us what God says is sin, thus leading to repentance. It also teaches us what God has in store in Heaven and the New Earth. If those living in sin will not inherit the kingdom, how do we know what is sin and what isn't? Answer: the law. So we can and must deduce that the opposite of what God does not like must be what we must have in our lives. Be ye Holy for I am Holy. God would not have said that if it were impossible for us to do. But we do not achieve holiness by ourselves, God must teach us, via the law. And
God is the same yesterday today and forever, the things He said were not ok then are still not ok and will never be ok. Just because we are under the blood does not make us exempt.
How's this for context?
Matthew 5:17-20
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Heaven and Earth has not passed yet, and not ALL is yet fulfilled. I haven't seen Jesus on the judgment seat yet. Also, if anyone breaks even the least of the commandments and teach others to do the same shall be the LEAST in the kingdom of heaven. Except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in NO case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Therefore, according to His Word, I should not tell anyone that it is ok to get a tattoo and/or a piercing when God clearly says do not. GOD said. This is not shrimp's doctrine, This is God's doctrine. If you don't like it take it up with Him.
 
shrimp

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ChristianJuggalo said:
Revelation 19:11-16
Christ on a White Horse

11*Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him*was*called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war.*12*His eyes*were*like a flame of fire, and on His head*were*many crowns. He had[e]*a name written that no one knew except Himself.*13*He*was*clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.*14*And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean,[f]*followed Him on white horses.*15*Now out of His mouth goes a sharp[g]*sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.*16*And He has on*His*robe and on His thigh a name written:KING OF KINGS ANDLORD OF LORDS.
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It might do you good to look at this page that I found on another site. I could not have explained it better than they do. I hope you will read it and think and pray about it.
http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?183223-Does-Jesus-have-a-tattoo-on-his-thigh
 
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kingerik

kingerik

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shrimp said:

I do try to learn the law to do my best and follow it. Not because it makes me "holier than thou".
The purpose of the law is three-fold: The law teaches us what God says is sin, thus leading to repentance. It also teaches us what God has in store in Heaven and the New Earth. If those living in sin will not inherit the kingdom, how do we know what is sin and what isn't? Answer: the law. So we can and must deduce that the opposite of what God does not like must be what we must have in our lives. Be ye Holy for I am Holy. God would not have said that if it were impossible for us to do. But we do not achieve holiness by ourselves, God must teach us, via the law. And
God is the same yesterday today and forever, the things He said were not ok then are still not ok and will never be ok. Just because we are under the blood does not make us exempt.
How's this for context?
Matthew 5:17-20

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Heaven and Earth has not passed yet, and not ALL is yet fulfilled. I haven't seen Jesus on the judgment seat yet. Also, if anyone breaks even the least of the commandments and teach others to do the same shall be the LEAST in the kingdom of heaven. Except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in NO case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Therefore, according to His Word, I should not tell anyone that it is ok to get a tattoo and/or a piercing when God clearly says do not. GOD said. This is not shrimp's doctrine, This is God's doctrine. If you don't like it take it up with Him.
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OH...boy...do you really believe we are still under the law? I'm not really at a place where I can explain it too you, but I can give you a link to read it yourself.

What does it mean that Jesus fulfilled the law, but did not abolish it?

If you believe we are still under the law then CHRIST'S Death is POINTLESS! I feel sorry for you...always having to look at everything in fear of breaking God's law. Thank God the Law is no more!
 
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I don't think there's anything wrong christians having tatoos as long as there not like demonic or anything I know lots of christians who do.
 
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faroukfarouk

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shrimp said:

It might do you good to look at this page that I found on another site. I could not have explained it better than they do. I hope you will read it and think and pray about it.
http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?183223-Does-Jesus-have-a-tattoo-on-his-thigh
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Ms. shrimp: Do you have any?
 
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faroukfarouk said:
Ms. shrimp: Do you have any?
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No and I think, but I'm not 100% sure, I explained why. If I didn't here it is:
when I was not following Christ I wanted to get a tattoo of my favorite animal on my back (no, it's not the shrimp. I like foxes.) and an industrial piercing. for those who don't know what it is:


I never had the opportunity (Thank the Lord) to get the industrial. The Tattoo, well, I couldn't find one that I liked (I had a specific design in mind). One thing in life led to another and I came to Christ and learned that tattoos are not ok.


 
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faroukfarouk

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shrimp said:
No and I think, but I'm not 100% sure, I explained why. If I didn't here it is:
when I was not following Christ I wanted to get a tattoo of my favorite animal on my back (no, it's not the shrimp. I like foxes.) and an industrial piercing. for those who don't know what it is:


I never had the opportunity (Thank the Lord) to get the industrial. The Tattoo, well, I couldn't find one that I liked (I had a specific design in mind). One thing in life led to another and I came to Christ and learned that tattoos are not ok.
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shrimp: Don't you like the industrial? it's basically two holes, really.
 
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