is homosexuality wrong

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MarkMulder

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no one picks on people here, there is great love, lead by the Lord, and is not a playground. SarahM777 is like new good wine, yet to some they are not of legal age spritually to get intoxicated with it yet.
Some wine ages well, some just turns to vinegar.
Just making a general comment here, not talking about anyone in particular.

Btw I'm as "legal" as can be, in every conceivable way.
 

homwardbound

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Spiritual growth makes us move, if not, then taking a ruler, you haven't grown.. Trials and Tribulations either make us closer, and stronger, or buckle, no matter how much attitude one has, it's not the money that's going to buy a plane and fly away to some resort away from it all, it is "HAVING THE MIND OF CHRIST," against the wiles and strategies, of evil, gird up the loins of your mind, put on the armor of God. It is not that simple, it could be give up and wave a little white flag in surrender. :)
You know not sure but i heard Solomon invented that game of Chess and won the wars by it, who said to God all he wanted was the wisdom to judge the people correctly as he did when those two women fought over whose Child it was and Solomon said well then let's cut the baby in half and the real Mother gave up her Baby, which told Solomon the truth as to who is the real Mom
 
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MarkMulder

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You know not sure but i heard Solomon invented that game of Chess and won the wars by it, who said to God all he wanted was the wisdom to judge the people correctly as he did when those two women fought over whose Child it was and Solomon said well then let's cut the baby in half and the real Mother gave up her Baby, which told Solomon the truth as to who is the real Mom
Solomon WAS wise, but didn't invent chess, the persians did.
The name for the game comes from their word for "king:" "shah"
 
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So with you Trilogic! How amazing that people tend to skip the "Just God, Holy God, The God who hates sin" and always sugar coat it with "The God of Love and Compassion" Its because of this mentality the Fear or ultimate reverence of God is lost. There's such a passivity among believers, like "Aww shame, if you sin its okay God will forgive you" YES HE WILL, do not get me wrong.

But if we for one minute thought "If I sin today, how will that Anger or Hurt God" Would you still do it? If it hurts God for a man to have an adulterous affair, or for a man to be with another man, would you do it anyway because "You'll be forgiven" Or will you, out of reverence to the Creator of our lives, DIE to your own fleshly desires take up your cross and follow him, and do what is JUST in the eyes of God?



God is love, God is love....im so tired of it...Hes also holy. Hes also just. Hes also a consuming fire. Hes also immutable and doesn't change just cause some decides Hes suddenly wrong about how he set up the natural order. Homosexuality is wrong according to nature and God. Period. Keep on trying to justify it..you wont get any nods from me.
 

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Solomon WAS wise, but didn't invent chess, the persians did.
The name for the game comes from their word for "king:" "shah"
Thanks Brother and chess is quite an involved game is it not?
 

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So with you Trilogic! How amazing that people tend to skip the "Just God, Holy God, The God who hates sin" and always sugar coat it with "The God of Love and Compassion" Its because of this mentality the Fear or ultimate reverence of God is lost. There's such a passivity among believers, like "Aww shame, if you sin its okay God will forgive you" YES HE WILL, do not get me wrong.

But if we for one minute thought "If I sin today, how will that Anger or Hurt God" Would you still do it? If it hurts God for a man to have an adulterous affair, or for a man to be with another man, would you do it anyway because "You'll be forgiven" Or will you, out of reverence to the Creator of our lives, DIE to your own fleshly desires take up your cross and follow him, and do what is JUST in the eyes of God?
I see it this way; since by Christ back at the cross I am in advance forgiven, since there is no forgiveness without the shedding of Blood and he is the last sac rifice and shedding of blood for foregiveness
I respond as the creation to the creator in thanksgiving and praise. Now if and whenever I do sin, I go to Father in confidence approaching the throne of grace thanking Jesus for being my atonement completed, and then ask Father how do I forsake this that I know is wrong to do. Saying Thank you I beleive you will show me how, in humility and not pride or boastfulness as is what my old flesh wants
So being taught all my life before belief in the cross and after by religion to be an initiator and do good to get good. I one day was shown ot be a responder to this Mercy of God in appreciation to God through Son Christ
So I was transferred by Father from death, being an initiator, creator, as is what flesh is, to a responder being nothing more that the creation, thanking God to be led by God in willingness of love from God through Son via the whole cross which includes the resurrected Christ in Spirit and truth to Father
So what makes sense here
A responder or an initiator?
 
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simply_me

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Exactly! You're ríght.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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"just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire." -Jude 1:7.

^ The verbs were selected to bring out the intense sinfulness of the sin - the first (e.g. indulged) is a strong compound form expressing unreserved surrender and the other an equally strong compound form denoting a departure from the law of nature in the impurities practiced (e.g. homosexual behavior).

The sin, of course, takes its name from the city with which the Book of Genesis so fearfully connects its indulgence. It forms one of the darkest strokes in the terrible picture which Paul has given us of the state of the ancient heathen world (Romans 1:27).

With the Dead Sea probably in his view, the writer describes the doom of the cities as an example of or a witness to (the noun used being one that occurs again only in James 5:11, and bearing either sense) the retributive justice of God.

They are set forth (literally, they lie before us) for an example, suffering the vengeance (rather, the punishment) of eternal fire. So it is put by the Authorized Version and the Revised Version, as also by Wickliffe, Tyndale, Cranmer, the Genevan, and the Rhemish.

So very serious.


How amazing that people tend to skip the "Just God, Holy God, The God who hates sin."
 
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Nevyanna

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Yes ,homosexuality is a sin therefore it is wrong . Not only homosexuality , but every sin is wrong and every human being is a sinner . There are no big sins or small sins . A sin is a sin , and if you don't repent it will remain , but if you repent , you are forgiven no matter what you've done .
 

homwardbound

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"just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire." -Jude 1:7.

^ The verbs were selected to bring out the intense sinfulness of the sin - the first (e.g. indulged) is a strong compound form expressing unreserved surrender and the other an equally strong compound form denoting a departure from the law of nature in the impurities practiced (e.g. homosexual behavior).

The sin, of course, takes its name from the city with which the Book of Genesis so fearfully connects its indulgence. It forms one of the darkest strokes in the terrible picture which Paul has given us of the state of the ancient heathen world (Romans 1:27).

With the Dead Sea probably in his view, the writer describes the doom of the cities as an example of or a witness to (the noun used being one that occurs again only in James 5:11, and bearing either sense) the retributive justice of God.

They are set forth (literally, they lie before us) for an example, suffering the vengeance (rather, the punishment) of eternal fire. So it is put by the Authorized Version and the Revised Version, as also by Wickliffe, Tyndale, Cranmer, the Genevan, and the Rhemish.

So very serious.
Bottom line is do not go against others free will or take another captive to do your bidding, against their will, noo manipulating
As in Bruce almighty God said to Bruce you can do what you want, but you can't take away others free will, get it I hope and pray, and for me it is wrong to lie, cheat, steal, have sex hetero-sexual or not, without trying for a baby, period, we are born to have puberty to have sex to recreate and that is truly all, nothing more and I am sure we all have been guilty of lust, if not of flesh of this world and what it temporarily has to offer, and we all are here in the same boat, so why not quit bashing others around and appreciate God's Mercy and have it shown and just state that is not for me if you think it for you okay, I ask you to ask God for a relationship and be taught by God who really does just love you and let it be
 

homwardbound

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I wouldn't know, I don't play it. :rolleyes:
It is a very involved game in using ones mind in seeing future if one moves a certain way and other ways to see a different outcome if one moves a different way than thought before the opponent made their move. I ahd a brother that played blindfolded, there are certain moves of the board that can be called out and one that sees the board moves those called out and when you move you call out what you moved and the game goes until check mate of one or the others king.
Anyway, My Brother whipped me every time blindfolded a photographic memory, it was amazing, I even tried to cheat once and he called me out on it and named where every piece was to be and I walked away in wow, and did not want to play anymore, and he just walked up and said learn here gave me a book and I would read and learn, and only one time before he died here on earth I had him going, but he still beat me anyway
I really like the game it is fun to me
Thanks, try it sometime you might like it
 
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justagirlinalonelyworld

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To me, no. I don't think that it makes a person bad.
 

homwardbound

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Redemption for all and to all is available free from Father through Son and we see after this to just love and trust Fasther to take care of us each and not harm anyone ever on purpose and just learn waht is beneficial for us and waht is not and thus decide and be
 

homwardbound

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how much deeper does this truth about food go? the writing here was about the problem of food sacrificed to Idols at that time, so it is addressed as that the food Chapter yet does it go any deeper, you read it and decide, and see prayerfully what you see as truth and error, in our own actions and reactions to others

[h=3]Romans 14[/h]Living Bible (TLB)

14 Give a warm welcome to any brother who wants to join you, even though his faith is weak. Don’t criticize him for having different ideas from yours about what is right and wrong.[SUP][a][/SUP] [SUP]2 [/SUP]For instance, don’t argue with him about whether or not to eat meat that has been offered to idols. You may believe there is no harm in this, but the faith of others is weaker; they think it is wrong and will go without any meat at all and eat vegetables rather than eat that kind of meat. [SUP]3 [/SUP]Those who think it is all right to eat such meat must not look down on those who won’t. And if you are one of those who won’t, don’t find fault with those who do. For God has accepted them to be his children. [SUP]4 [/SUP]They are God’s servants, not yours. They are responsible to him, not to you. Let him tell them whether they are right or wrong. And God is able to make them do as they should.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Some think that Christians should observe the Jewish holidays as special days to worship God, but others say it is wrong and foolish to go to all that trouble, for every day alike belongs to God. On questions of this kind everyone must decide for himself. [SUP]6 [/SUP]If you have special days for worshiping the Lord, you are trying to honor him; you are doing a good thing. So is the person who eats meat that has been offered to idols; he is thankful to the Lord for it; he is doing right. And the person who won’t touch such meat, he, too, is anxious to please the Lord, and is thankful. [SUP]7 [/SUP]We are not our own bosses to live or die as we ourselves might choose. [SUP]8 [/SUP]Living or dying we follow the Lord. Either way we are his. [SUP]9 [/SUP]Christ died and rose again for this very purpose, so that he can be our Lord both while we live and when we die.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]You have no right to criticize your brother or look down on him. Remember, each of us will stand personally before the Judgment Seat of God. [SUP]11 [/SUP]For it is written, “As I live,” says the Lord, “every knee shall bow to me and every tongue confess to God.” [SUP]12 [/SUP]Yes, each of us will give an account of himself to God.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]So don’t criticize each other anymore. Try instead to live in such a way that you will never make your brother stumble by letting him see you doing something he thinks is wrong.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]As for myself, I am perfectly sure on the authority of the Lord Jesus that there is nothing really wrong with eating meat that has been offered to idols. But if someone believes it is wrong, then he shouldn’t do it because for him it is wrong. [SUP]15 [/SUP]And if your brother is bothered by what you eat, you are not acting in love if you go ahead and eat it. Don’t let your eating ruin someone for whom Christ died. [SUP]16 [/SUP]Don’t do anything that will cause criticism against yourself even though you know that what you do is right.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]For, after all, the important thing for us as Christians is not what we eat or drink but stirring up goodness and peace and joy from the Holy Spirit. [SUP]18 [/SUP]If you let Christ be Lord in these affairs, God will be glad; and so will others. [SUP]19 [/SUP]In this way aim for harmony in the church, and try to build each other up.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Don’t undo the work of God for a chunk of meat. Remember, there is nothing wrong with the meat, but it is wrong to eat it if it makes another stumble. [SUP]21 [/SUP]The right thing to do is to quit eating meat or drinking wine or doing anything else that offends your brother or makes him sin. [SUP]22 [/SUP]You may know that there is nothing wrong with what you do, even from God’s point of view, but keep it to yourself; don’t flaunt your faith in front of others who might be hurt by it. In this situation, happy is the man who does not sin by doing what he knows is right. [SUP]23 [/SUP]But anyone who believes that something he wants to do is wrong shouldn’t do it. He sins if he does, for he thinks it is wrong, and so for him it is wrong. Anything that is done apart from what he feels is right is sin.
 
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phia20

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The the of it is when u accept jesus into your life and ask for the holy spirt to fill you, thoese things just dont matter anymore. You become less intersted in being gay and more intersted in doing gods will. If his will leads you to stright married life or to lay life. It just shouldnt worry you because accpeting jesus and his kingdom is first then the rest follow. U cant worry about the sin before u ask to be a child of god. Ask and let him lead the rest will work itself out within time. Coming from someone who used to ignore god because i was into my own lifestlye and will and was afarid to ask him for to faith because i was afaird to give it up, my own will. My friends god has a will for us and if we could stop getting hung up on wordly things and people and listen we might be healed. God bless