If a Christian commits suicide, what then?

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Hoffco

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The Apostle Paul made statements based on his experience, which proved to be wrong in the end, as He later acknowledged that John Mark was NOW worthy of the ministry, but before , Paul would not take j. m. on the mission trip, Barnabus did and J,M, prooved to be OK.. hoffco
 
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I believein "once saved always saved", I am Calvinistic, But here we are looking at our perspective of the truth, Hoffco
 
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The tragedy of suicide is that, instead of stopping the pain, it can render it eternal. And I believe it does.
However, what is impossible to us, it is possible to God. I have a friend that commited suicide and I pray for her soul. Maybe, until the kingdom of God comes, the souls still have a chance for happyness and peace.
 
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The Apos. Paul said or did some stupid things that turned out false or bad for him. He took a vow one time, things did not turn for the good. He was human, not in Full control as God is. hoffco
 
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Hoffco

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Sim. The soul at death is set for eternity, unless they had no knowledge of Jesus in this life, I think God will give then a chance to believe after death. God is just. Hoffco
 
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I am an evangelist and tell and eurge people to trust and obey Jesus only for eternal life. But only God saved, not me. Hoffco
 
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If a christian commits suicide then they die, no different than if they died some other way. Dead is dead.
I wouldn't equalize suicide with any other death. It hearts infinitly more if one commits suicide than if he dies in an accident. I'm not saying that death in accident is not tragical, but the pain that you feel when someone decides he is so unhappy that he can not take it anymore, is a unimaginable pain. Especially, when it's someone that has been closed to you.
 
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Not every thing in an epistle to the churches or to a person has to do with the saved people only, in every letter of the Bible ,there are things said to the lost, to encourage them to get saved, warning others, they might be lost if they don't obey God,. We, nor the apostles , don't know who the "elect" of God are. we have to test them out to see , and then, we don't ,as God knows. Hoffco
 
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Sim, that is so true,! I am tempted to end it all, but, no way,! that is not the answer, it is not the end, why i am alive, I have hope, but if I opt out have no assurance I would be saved. Only God knows. I choose to live and trust God for what ever comes. But, I have a living will, and if I am a vegtible, the my wife is to "pull the plug". Hoffco
 
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One of my favorite verse is Isa, 1:18-20 ?/ "trust God and do good and so shall you dwell in the land and be feed," Sorry, I didn't check the reference, Hoffco
 
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Sim, that is so true,! I am tempted to end it all, but, no way,! that is not the answer, it is not the end, why i am alive, I have hope, but if I opt out have no assurance I would be saved. Only God knows. I choose to live and trust God for what ever comes. But, I have a living will, and if I am a vegtible, the my wife is to "pull the plug". Hoffco
I have also had times when I wished to go to sleep and not wake up anymore but God helped me to overcome the feeling and I am happy and thankfull to Him that he blessed me with a loving husband.
I pray to God that you never become a vegetable so that the wife is spared from "pulling the plug". I don't think I could do it. No matter how severe is the "state of vegetable", I wouldn't do it. And I suspect that your wife wouldn't do it either.
 
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Maybe this will change your mind on once saved always saved, Why do you think the bible constantly warns us, and why do you think the devil never stops tempting us if we can't lose our soul? There were some teachers in Ephesus by the names of Hymenaeus and Philetus who departed from the truth and overthrew the faith of some saying that the resurrection had past already. (II Timothy 2:17-18.) In II Timothy 4:10 Paul said, "Demas has forsaken me, having loved this present world." You cannot depart from where you have never been.
Notice that Demas loved this present world. We are warned in 1 John 2:15-17 not to love the world.
“Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world -- the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life is not of the Father but of the world and the world passes away and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever.”

[SIZE=+1]John was writing to Christians.
Can a child of God lose his love for God and fall in love with the world? These scriptures prove that he can. Demas did. Christians have done it in the past and are doing it now and will do it in the future. [/SIZE][SIZE=+1] Peter points out the condition of those who depart from God. “For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. But it has happened to them according to the true Proverb: 'A dog returns to his own vomit' and 'A sow having washed to her wallowing in the mire.'” (II Peter 2:20-22) [/SIZE]
 
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cmarieh

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If a Christian commutes suicide, would they still go to heaven or would they go to hell? I've often wondered this, but was too scared to ask anyone I know cause they'd freak out if I was talking about suicide and such. But I figured here, it would be easier to ask. So.. That's basically all. Some people say yes, some say no.. I'd really kinda like to know...
I hope you are not thinking about committing suicide yourself. You are only fifteen. I know it may seem that your world may be caving in on you, but it does get better after you get out high school and become an adult because high school is filled with so much drama. But I believe if someone commits suicide they are asking to go to hell. Because people would be murdering themselves which breaks The Ten Commandments "Thou Shall Not Murder" and you will not have the opportunity to ask for forgiveness.
 
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TheTruthAboutTheTruth

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Hi there I know I'm a little late here but suicide is a sin you are murdering your own self and no murderer shall inherit the kingdom of heaven and the destination is hell. I'm sorry to say but God has a plan for all of us when someone takes their own life it was not yet that person time yet it wasn't in God's will for that person to die so any plan that God had for that said person is now ruined.
Say for example: you are called to be a minster but you pull the plug on yourself and let's say that had you done your calling you would have helped save 500 people but since you decided to kill yourself those 500 that you were suppose to save didn't get save because you never got the chance to do your job so now those 500 people's blood are now in your hands.

I hoped that helped
 
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idk

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well isn't it like murdering someone, but yourself? and that's your last act , finally , before you leave earth. seems like it's a dangerous wire to try to walk on. especially if aware it's a sin
 
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idk

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that would mean suicide is okay, and open for christians to commit. don't think perspective God wants us to have
 
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no if we keep on sinning we don't inherit the kingdom. so true repentence is turning away from sin
 
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what I mean is 1 John 3:9-10, and "if you love me you'll obey me" John 14:15
 
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The Bible is a joke to you, is it? Because everything I said is based on Scripture. The Bible doesn't speak specifically about suicide, but it does say this:

"Neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord" ~ Romans 8:39.

I'm not saying that suicide is not a sin, because I wholeheartedly believe it is a sin, but if one is redeemed through their faith in Christ, nothing can 'un-save' us unless that person gives up their faith.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but please use Scripture.
Ok,so you are saying a Christian can end life.That is making it a bigger joke.Convince me because i want to leave this world right now!Dead serious!!!
There is no verse,one single verse point to what you say.
you should be ashamed of what you say even though i might be leading a worse life than you.
i don't think you will get past 20 with that perverted knowledge.Grow up!!!
God starts building when man gives up saying "God am done,cannot move further on my own.."
Get that sick thought out of your mind with that bible verse that is not apt to the point.It talks about obstacles faced including martyrdom and not suicide.There are cases i have heard where God had mercy on people at last moment with visible proofs of supernatural intervention.But its risk.Committing suicide is an abomination..

Did you read my message above talking about my own experience in committing it and How God intervened?If it was not so,i was sure i was going to hell.Don't give false hope to people,i am witness..

If some point in your life,you are left alone with no facilities to survive,submit yourself to God and Let Him take your soul-the most decent thing you can do.He gave Life,allow Him to take your life and Repent of what is left you need to reconcile from the bottom of your heart.
you earned it:),...you made it:D to Glory of God,provided you have been struggling in your life to Live for God even though you were failing..
 
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ji

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what I mean is 1 John 3:9-10, and "if you love me you'll obey me" John 14:15
Do you obey fully everything what Scripture says..?oops am in the teens forum,sorry.
you can report this statement to admin,but you can still answer my question..
Do not judge if you don't pray..then also convict,we don't have right to judge now.
But i agree suicide is a terrible sin.Pray for such..