Dont tell me what type of music to listen to....

[Jake_from_state_farm]

I can understand the lyrics, but the music it self is not of God. So Jake you are really getting no where.
Infact most the world today listen to heavy metal, it only satisfies the flesh. You can hear it from the distance and you can hear it doesn't sound right. Tbh I rather hear the lyrics than the Music blaring it out. I have a reason to believe most of y'all lack discernment

We crown Him with a crown of thorns [x2]
This is the end of a life that's been poured out for all mankind
In suffering, manifest glory has come at the fullness of time
King of Kings
Beaten and broken down why would he live like a servant
King of Kings
Descending lower now
Why should he die like a slave
The proud will be humbled, the meek will inherit the earth
The last will be first to inherit the earth
I know down is the way up so master show me how to serve
The last will be first to inherit the earth
The less will be first to inherit the earth
It should have been me
With the nails through my hands and feet
Facing the wrath of God
It should have been me
Left to pay for my sin forsaken
But in the blood I stand here
It should have been me
Born to die
He bore the fire of God's holy wrath on his shoulders
Born to die
I watched Him pour out his life as a ransom for all
And as he carried His cross on his back
Beaten and bloody, I saw myself there too
Because I've been broken by a world that hates me
But I'm not alone anymore (alone no more)
No one can take His life; He laid it down for me
That twisted wreath of thorns, yeah He took that crown for me
Then after three days, out of the ground for me
He overcame it all!
Now I live to serve Him
With stripes on his back
Betrayed by the ones he loves so perfectly
We spit in his face and we crowned Him
We crown Him with a crown of thorns [x4]​

Now can you tell me that is not in the bible? and all you are doing is throwing the word discernment around to make you sound educated in the bible, yet you are not giving me any quotes or paraphrases...and it does not satisfies my flesh, it satisfies my soul for god. "lord, I pray right now that what the enemy is telling nate will parish from his heart. Amen." I just prayed that for you.. Love you man.

 

[NateDaGrimes]

We crown Him with a crown of thorns [x2]
This is the end of a life that's been poured out for all mankind
In suffering, manifest glory has come at the fullness of time
King of Kings
Beaten and broken down why would he live like a servant
King of Kings
Descending lower now
Why should he die like a slave
The proud will be humbled, the meek will inherit the earth
The last will be first to inherit the earth
I know down is the way up so master show me how to serve
The last will be first to inherit the earth
The less will be first to inherit the earth
It should have been me
With the nails through my hands and feet
Facing the wrath of God
It should have been me
Left to pay for my sin forsaken
But in the blood I stand here
It should have been me
Born to die
He bore the fire of God's holy wrath on his shoulders
Born to die
I watched Him pour out his life as a ransom for all
And as he carried His cross on his back
Beaten and bloody, I saw myself there too
Because I've been broken by a world that hates me
But I'm not alone anymore (alone no more)
No one can take His life; He laid it down for me
That twisted wreath of thorns, yeah He took that crown for me
Then after three days, out of the ground for me
He overcame it all!
Now I live to serve Him
With stripes on his back
Betrayed by the ones he loves so perfectly
We spit in his face and we crowned Him
We crown Him with a crown of thorns [x4]​

Now can you tell me that is not in the bible? and all you are doing is throwing the word discernment around to make you sound educated in the bible, yet you are not giving me any quotes or paraphrases...and it does not satisfies my flesh, it satisfies my soul for god. "lord, I pray right now that what the enemy is telling nate will parish from his heart. Amen." I just prayed that for you.. Love you man.

Such a naive fellow you are... I said it once I can say it again, there are nothing wrong with the lyrics but when it comes to the music thats where it crosses a holy standpoint.

 

[Stephen63]

and yet... jesus himself stood by the thief...

No he didn't... He hung on a cross beside him...... & that particular thief had a change of heart.....

 

[didymos]

... because I will just show you this video below everytime. (...)

No you won't, I won't click it.


(Don't tell ME what type of music to listen to)

 

[Stephen63]

Ya know, it's so strange that even the world can pick some fake televangelists out of the lineup, yet many christians believe since a style of music is labeled "christian", it must be true. Received without question or research.

That's rather a dangerous attitude to take in these last days, don't you think? The Bible says to "prove all things"

If a televangelist can preach a correct sermon & still be wrong because of selfish motives, so can "christian" entertainers.

Know what I really think? I think they purposely won't investigate them because they don't want to find out. They want to keep it that way.

 

[kingerik]

um... I know what it says.. I know may PASTORS that know them... and your analogy makes no sense.

I was replying to others not you. What i said at the end is... Music is not bad until you use it in a manner that is bad.

 

[kingerik]

Such a naive fellow you are... I said it once I can say it again, there are nothing wrong with the lyrics but when it comes to the music thats where it crosses a holy standpoint.

Hmmm...really now? If you don't like metal say that, but don't put God into it cause as far as I know, you are speaking from self and not biblically or rightly.

 

[Jake_from_state_farm]

I was replying to others not you. What i said at the end is... Music is not bad until you use it in a manner that is bad.

Yeah, I was talking to nate, not you. sorry for the confusion.

 

[MidniteWelder]

The point I am trying to make that CHRISTIAN metal core is just like worship music

It's just like it only different.









~then the devil said, "yes I know...but at least it's a DRY heat."

 

[Nautilus]

Such a naive fellow you are... I said it once I can say it again, there are nothing wrong with the lyrics but when it comes to the music thats where it crosses a holy standpoint.

so wait because it has distorted guitars its evil? or is it the percussion? what a joke.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

I think his argument aligns more with the composition than the instruments used: Tritone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

so wait because it has distorted guitars its evil? or is it the percussion? what a joke.

 

[posthuman]

here's some metalcore praise with lyrics a little easier to understand..

[video=youtube_share;ThWoW98weaY]http://youtu.be/ThWoW98weaY[/video]

the lyrics are embedded. but here they are again:

All fear, all pain, all hurt, all grief, all lies, must bow to Jesus' Name.
All kings, all thrones, everything that breathes life, must bow to Jesus' Name.
The Earth, the sea, the sun, the stars, the sky, must bow to Jesus' Name.
The Earth, the sea, the sun, the stars, the sky, must bow to Jesus' Name.

Hallelujah!

Kings, crowns, thrones: bow down!
Fall face down: bow down!
Kiss the ground: bow down!
Jesus, you hold the crown. Bow down!

now i could post many more videos and songs with lyrics that praise God in truth and in spirit, even many more songs with even heavier music and lyrics that are verbatim from the psalms and the prophets.

I can understand the lyrics, but the music it self is not of God. So Jake you are really getting no where.
Infact most the world today listen to heavy metal, it only satisfies the flesh. You can hear it from the distance and you can hear it doesn't sound right. Tbh I rather hear the lyrics than the Music blaring it out. I have a reason to believe most of y'all lack discernment

now if you judge by earthly things (what it sounds like to your ears) you are not using spiritual judgement, but earthly judgement.
but if you judge the heart of the song - what it actually says, what it actually means, the intent of the artist - you are using spiritual judgement.

if you look at a person, and you decide whether they are 'of God' because of the clothes they wear, the language they speak, the tone of their voice, whether their hair is washed or not, you are using 'carnal judgement' and this isn't true 'discernment' -- that should be obvious enough, yes? you don't have to be a middle-class white person with good personal hygiene and clean, ironed shirts to confess that Jesus is Lord, right?
so what makes music different?

Stop judging by mere appearances, but instead judge correctly.
- Jesus

(John 7:24)

not all "judgement" is "discernment"

 

[posthuman]

i think music is like language; not everyone can understand every kind of it.
to people that don't speak Russian or German for example, no matter what someone says, it sounds violent, gutteral and harsh. to a lot of people, even the most terrible curses and descriptions of horror sound beautiful in French or Italian. some African dialects are full of pops and clicks that most of the rest of mankind hears as just confusion.
it's what's being said that matters, and to someone who understands it, it can mean a great deal.

no one ought to ask or expect anyone to 'like' or 'be blessed' by every kind of music. i just don't think it's right to say "all metal music is evil" anymore than it's right to say "all pipe organ music is sacred."

sorry for butting into the teen forum -- i jut saw the thread title and clicked before looking at what section it was in.

 

[Praise]

Not everyone that says "lord" will enter into his kingdom. They could be workers of iniquity and God doesn't know them. Well I doubt the holy spirit will bear witness with you that this song is Godly because it might have a form of it but denies the power thereof.

 

[Anxiety94]

I listen to metal and love it, and can feel God in it. I honestly feel him in more rock/metal songs then the songs they typically play at a church.

 

[Ugly]

Not everyone that says "lord" will enter into his kingdom. They could be workers of iniquity and God doesn't know them. Well I doubt the holy spirit will bear witness with you that this song is Godly because it might have a form of it but denies the power thereof.

Wow, if that is ever a twisting and misapplication of scripture. Denies the power thereof? The entire song is about Gods power and how everything and everyone on earth will bow to Him. That's denying the power of God? And you're trying to use scripture to argue against that message? *rolls eyes

And 'highly doubt' is mere opinion. Not supported by God just because you aren't able to comprehend.

 

[IsaacAtlast]

Well in my case, we all worship God in different ways.
David praised God fhrough dancing.
If you enjoy that music then listen to it.
I love hip-hop so I listen to 116 etc
Just be careful of what the lyrics say

 

[autumntrees]

For Today is so good!

 

[Torrence]

How Can God Use A "Depraved Genre"?


Look at rapper Shai Linne's answer, from Lyrical Theology: How Can God Use A "Depraved Genre"?

" I've been asked this question many times over the years. And it definitely didn't start with me or hip-hop. It's a question that has been asked for centuries. At its essence, Christians genuinely struggle with how a believer in Jesus Christ can use something that has long been associated with evil (such as hip-hop) and attempt to glorify God with it? If one were to attempt an in-depth answer, enough could be written to fill the pages of a thick book. But for those out there who may struggle to answer this succinctly, I gave the following brief answer. I hope it's helpful.

' Credo Mag: In the past you have been criticized for redeeming such a “depraved genre” as hip-hop. What is your response to this criticism?

Shai Linne: To those who say, "How can you take that thing that is used for evil and glorify God with it?" My two word answer is "The Cross." The central act of redemptive history involved God Himself doing that very thing! (See 1 Cor. 1:18-25)

My longer response to that particular criticism is usually to simply re-phrase the objection. I would say something like, "Are you saying that you have a problem with me taking a medium that has been used to blaspheme God and using it instead as a medium to praise and exalt God's holy name, proclaim His glorious gospel, speak biblical truth and magnify the infinite worth of the Lord Jesus Christ?"

Arguments against "depraved genres" are ultimately arguments against redemption itself, because depraved genres are the products of depraved human beings- who need redemption. (In fact, "depraved genre" is a misnomer because it's ascribing moral value to a medium, which by definition is morally neutral until informed by content.) Once God has redeemed a person, it's fitting for the Christian to take the "genres" or vehicles (such as books, cameras, canvasses, the internet, language, musical forms, etc.) that he or she once used for evil and now use them to promote the glory of God. Those who make the objection (especially as they use the internet to do so) are often unaware that they themselves use "depraved genres" all the time.

grace and peace,
shai ' "

I hope that you guys can see the correlation and pray that God would keep us from the Pharisee spirit that fills many with pride.

Praise Jesus, the Christ who was crucified to redeem humanity for the sake of God's perfect love.

 

[Simona25]

You are completely right! God could use whatever song ever made for His glory!! BUT He will never use anything such as metal, rap, or hardcore beatstep blah blah blah, etc etc... because God is not going to use the things of this world to uplift His name.

God will only use things of a pure nature and humble spirit simply because of what He has told us! (In His Word!!)

I think of Romans 12:2:

"And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God."

If you want to truly be of God and praise God, then as Ephesus 5:11 says, have no fellowship with the works of darkness! (Things of this world!) But rather reprove (reject) them.


Please if you ever have questions or problems with things of this world, heed the Word my brothers.

Your friend,
Moose

It is always a relief to read such comments. I commend you for your patience, kindness and intelligence.

(I worry for those who don't understand why the church is just not the place where to listen reggeaton)