is homosexuality in the same category as pedophilia?

[AlwaysSad]

I'm curious to know if you think that pedophilia should be in the same disease category as pedophilia.

reasons.

1. they both go against the Bible

2. they both go against natural procreation

3. they are both abnormalities

I personally believe that neither one can be controlled, but it's the actions themselves that can.

so whadda ya think, is homosexuality in the same category as pedophilia?

[bluebutterfly]

I highly doubt that there in the same category just is this what I believe I do not believe that homosexuality is something you are born with maybe i did once but not anymore.

As for the other thing if the go against the bible then to me that is a sin. `

And the men did shameful things with other men and a result of this sin they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved NLT

And likewise also the men leaving the natural use of the women burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. Roman 1:27 KJV

As said earlier I do not know weather it would be in the same category but if does go against the bible then it is sin to me.

You have a lot of questions as well I have noticed, i think it's wonderful that you want to learn God bless you.

Originally Posted by AlwaysSad

so whadda ya think, is homosexuality in the same category as pedophilia?

What do you mean by "category?" For what purpose are we categorizing these things? They have different names because they are different things, so one wonders what your point is here. Are you trying to categorize them for the purpose of law? Are you trying to figure out if they're both sin? I suspect, though, that you didn't think it through this far. You'd simply like to see homosexuality in the same bucket as pedophilia, no matter what the cost to logic and fairness.

Let's consider your reasons:

1. they both go against the Bible

In this sense, you might as well categorize pedophilia, homosexuality, and all other sins together. You're not making a new category and one wonders what your point is.

2. they both go against natural procreation

This is not the case. Homosexuals are not trying to procreate when we have sex and we're not trying to keep anyone else from procreating. We're not against heterosexual sex except, perhaps, to say that we don't enjoy it personally. (You may find it interesting, by the way, that many homosexuals, especially before this decade, actually had children.)

Furthermore, not all heterosexual sex leads to procreation. The use of condoms and other prophylactics, sex when the woman is already pregnant, "pulling out," etc. are all well-known in the heterosexual world. Also, even when you don't use prophylactics, not all sex leads to pregnancy. Humans can have sex purely for pleasure and it need not go against the natural order.

Would you like to categorize condoms with pedophilia? I highly doubt it.

3. they are both abnormalities

You might want to reconsider using 'abnormal' as a pejorative. Christians are called to go against the grain of the world and by any secular measure are very strange people. Merely being different is not a bad thing. In fact, going with the world is portrayed in almost every major religion as being a bad thing. By your reasoning here, we all need to be normal and do what everybody around us is doing. Are you suggesting that we should follow the popular vote?

Now, let's consider how pedophilia and homosexuality are different:

1. Homosexuality is not rape, even if some homosexuals rape. All pedophilia is rape.

Most religions and legal systems consider pedophilia rape because a child is unable to give the necessary consent. Homosexuality between consenting adults, however, does not have this aspect.

If a person rapes another person, there are larger problems than homosexuality. It's much like Sodom - people often rely on this story to tell homosexuals that what they do is wrong, but your average homosexual has not attempted the gang rape of angels. I, personally, would never hold a person hostage for sex or take advantage of someone who couldn't give consent. Why I'm being compared to a child molestor, I don't know.

2. Monogamous homosexuals can form stable, meaningful, helpful bonds between adults. Pedophiles will always be dealing with immature children.

I have been with my partner for seven years now and we have been through things we would not have survived otherwise. I've been sick for years and, without his help, I would have not been able to continue to work. He was in an accident this last year and I nursed him back to health. Furthermore, we have roughly the same level of emotional maturity and can relate to each other as peers. It's not simply about the sexual attraction.

Of course, pedophiles may argue that it's not simply about the sexual attraction, but I would not acknowledge that their relationship has the same helpful, stable aspects as does ours. If a pedophile is sick, will the child be able to drive him to the hospital? If the pedophile has mood swings, will the child respond with the resilience of a mature adult?

Your initial post was a fairly transparent attempt to get some amens from the audience. We all agree that homosexuality and pedophilia are sexual sins, right?! But no, this is not the way it works. We'll not sit by and be compared to molesters simply because you dislike what we do.

[Semiazas]

why was it necessary to also post this in the "teens" section?

I didn't see the other thread until I'd already responded.

I get the sense sometimes that people post adult topics in the teen section because they think the crowd'll be a little nicer. In theory, I shouldn't even be posting this!

[Semiazas]

i didnt mean u dusty. i was referring to alwayssad

Very well worded response Dusty. People do love to categorize others. Look at how well it has separated the church. Sin is sin and all fall short of the glory of God. I am so thankful to God for delivering me from homosexuality, drug addiction, and alcoholism amoung many other things but even now after walking with the Lord the Holy Spirit continues convicting me of new sins i never realized i had. We never get "there" where we can quit working like I thought it'd be like. He always is pushing to be more like Him. Young brothers and sisters....So many teenagers deal with these same sex attraction and if you make them feel like a pervert then the gay community will happily embrace and accept them. Stand by the word of God but with compassion as Jesus would. His love is what healed me after years of torment. Noone could criticize me to repentence. Its the Love of God.

no pedophillia is sickness being gay u can't help

[wwjd_kilden]

as has been said: two gay people (above 16) having sex in mutual consent might be wrong, but not a crime
pedophelia acted out on is very wrong, very evil and has many horrible effects...

they are both sins, but THEY ARE NOT THE SAME

however: In Gods eyes a sin is a sin.... stealing, killing, lying, jealousy... so maybe they are equally bad to God, just like all other sins

Originally Posted by AlwaysSad

I'm curious to know if you think that pedophilia should be in the same disease category as pedophilia.

reasons.

1. they both go against the Bible

2. they both go against natural procreation

3. they are both abnormalities

I personally believe that neither one can be controlled, but it's the actions themselves that can.

so whadda ya think, is homosexuality in the same category as pedophilia?

im a little confused on whatt you mean by category, like do you mean which is worse?

sin is sin in gods eyes.

no.

pedophilia is wrong and a crime

homosexuality is a way of life. which i don't support, but if they want to, why not... i mean... the muslim faith is also a way of life... and it won't lead to salvation, just like homusexuality... i don't support any of the above (pedophilia i support the least of course).

but homosexuality is just a way of life. it is sinful, but not as sinful as pedofilia or islamism.

They are both sexual sins... And in some cases, they could both be mental disorders.

But for the main part, they're not that much alike. Pedophilia derives from a sense of wanting power, while homosexuality comes either from a misunderstanding of love or the desire to have "individuality" =D

a sin by any other name is still a sin

[Kathleen]

is homosexuality in the same category as pedophilia?

definetly

and you wil notice that alot of peodilphiles are homosexual, they are both perverse and abominations.

Originally Posted by zacfl282

Very well worded response Dusty. People do love to categorize others. Look at how well it has separated the church. Sin is sin and all fall short of the glory of God. I am so thankful to God for delivering me from homosexuality, drug addiction, and alcoholism amoung many other things but even now after walking with the Lord the Holy Spirit continues convicting me of new sins i never realized i had. We never get "there" where we can quit working like I thought it'd be like. He always is pushing to be more like Him. Young brothers and sisters....So many teenagers deal with these same sex attraction and if you make them feel like a pervert then the gay community will happily embrace and accept them. Stand by the word of God but with compassion as Jesus would. His love is what healed me after years of torment. Noone could criticize me to repentence. Its the Love of God.

@zacfl282, thankyou for sharing your story with us :') you write with graceful conviction, your testimony is soooo encouraging.

Ohmylanta.
People make me sick.
Why would you even post this!?
There is NOTHING wrong with being gayy.

I'm sorry, do you chose to be straight?
No, you ****ING imbiciles.

So ****OFF.

I'm bi. Grab your **** KKK mask and beat me.

See iff I givva ****.

At least I LOVE people and don't judge.

Youu all suck.

[Cako53]

Originally Posted by MeganneCheers

Ohmylanta.
People make me sick.
Why would you even post this!?
There is NOTHING wrong with being gayy.

I'm sorry, do you chose to be straight?
No, you ****ING imbiciles.

So ****OFF.

I'm bi. Grab your **** KKK mask and beat me.

See iff I givva ****.

At least I LOVE people and don't judge.

Youu all suck.

I wonder how long she lasts on here before the mods remove her post and give her the boot!? And the bible is quite clear on homosexuality, and if you proclaim to be a christian, then you should probably know this.

1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Genesis 19:4-5, 11-13, 24Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. [5] They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have SEX WITH THEM.” ... [11] Then [the messengers from God] struck the men who were at the door of the house, young and old, with blindness so that they could not find the door. [12] The two men said to Lot, “Do you have anyone else here — sons-in-law, sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here, [13] because we are going to destroy this place. The outcry to the LORD against its people is so great that HE has sent us to DESTROY it.” ... [24] Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah — from the LORD out of the heavens.

Jude 1:7In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and PERVERSION. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.


Did you ever read what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah? If not, go look it up.


Btw, you talk about being so loving to EVERYONE, while your post didn't seem very loving at all, in fact I'm pretty sure a lot of people would have been offended by that. I'll be praying for you.

P.S. Please do not proclaim to be a Christian if you clearly aren't. There is not such thing as loving God and loving everything the world brings you. It is impossible, you can't serve two masters. I pray that you will make the choice to choose one master, and that it would be God. I pray that God would show your wicked ways and that you would turn from them. That you would realize your wrong, and flee. Because, you never know when it's going to be a day to late. God Bless you.

[Maddog]

Originally Posted by MeganneCheers

Ohmylanta.
People make me sick.
Why would you even post this!?
There is NOTHING wrong with being gayy.

I'm sorry, do you chose to be straight?
No, you ****ING imbiciles.

So ****OFF.

I'm bi. Grab your **** KKK mask and beat me.

See iff I givva ****.

At least I LOVE people and don't judge.

Youu all suck.

Please rephrase the point you're trying to make. It's hard to understand with so many asteriscks.

[Cako53]

Originally Posted by Maddog

Please rephrase the point you're trying to make. It's hard to understand with so many asteriscks.

ahaha! thanks man

After reading my post last night, I feel like a total DIP.
Okayye, so. I am all for homsexuality.
It doesn't bother me.
I AM a christain. I just don't believe everything I hear.
True, the bible sayys marriage is between a man and a woman, but I don't think it was meant to be taken so literally. I'm trying to get my point across calmly here.

To be chritain means to be CHRITLIKE, does it not? Well, Jesus loved EVERYONE.
Who were his friends?
Lepers. Whores. Criminals.

I want to make an attempt to be friends with anyonne & I cannot apologize enough for things I said last night. I just believe that nothing is wrong and there is NO SUCH THING as sin...

That's my belief. & I'll make a better effort to accept all of youurs.

Please forgive and forget?

God Bless you all & Peace be with you.

Meganne Marie.