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ohkay so at my school we have "gangs" and everyone is supposed to be scared?? i mean its like a little dress up thing at my school, you where your colours (just like some exstreme preps do) and you all sag to match?
recently gangs have commited there attention to saying there catholic by wearing the virgen mary on there pants or whatever they can thing of.. well i don't' know alot about catholics and if anyone would like to explain it to me feel free to, but the virgen mary is not the only god they commit to, they make "swears" well i strictly remember mathew 5:36... it striaght up says "do not swear" and well i take that to heart and now you have kids adults and teenagers all saying swear but thats not going to be in this topic that'l be in another, but lets get back on track they make swears to other gods so i would consider this a cult

, and if someone hears the word "cult" they think of a false God taking over someones mind, but gang people can still be changed! dont be afraid *Philippians 4:6-7, and allso menchions in joshua chapter 1*

But is what i am trying to get by you is ..

ohkay picture this you got this gang dude that walks the walk and talks the talk and know everything about being a blood.. or a crip.. or whatever gang there in but here is the truth behind all of that macho man and whatever they think they are..
They are extremely smart.. I tell you the truth that just about every gang person i know can make straight a's easy! without even effort, but they choose not to because it might ruin there "rep"

Well here are a couple verses that i would like to add as i always do..

These verses are about being in a cult, *gang*

Deuteronomy 18:20-22:

"any prophet who falsely claims that his message is from me [God], shall die. And any prophet who claims to give a message from other gods must die. ' if you wonder, ' How shall we know when there prophecy is from the Lord or not?' this is the way to know: If the thing he prophesies doesn't happen, it is not the Lord who has given him a message; he has made it up himself. You have nothing to fear from him."


ohkay, lets talk about this verse,

first you may ask "whats a prophet?

well i looked up the dictionary results and...

1. a person who speaks for God or a deity, or by divine inspiration. 2. (in the Old Testament) a. a person chosen to speak for God and to guide the people of Israel: Moses was the greatest of Old Testament prophets. b. (often initial capital letter) one of the Major or Minor Prophets. c. one of a band of ecstatic visionaries claiming divine inspiration and, according to popular belief, possessing magical powers. d. a person who practices divination.

well one that sticks out to me is C. where it says, possessing magical powers, ohkay now so you got this gang perosn come up to you and say "i can beat you up" or "i am going to beat you up"

they are claiming that they have the power to defeat you, and they brag so much about themselves as though they possess magical powers, am i correct? and it says... How shall we know whether the prophecy is from the Lord or not? he says if he the thing that he prophesies doesn't hapen it is not the lord who has givin him the message; he has mad it up himself. you have nothing to fear from him

well think do those gang people ever even show up a fraction of what they say? NO! they are just alot of talk, and before that the verse talks about how if any prophet who claims to give a message from other gods must die, wow? and we wonder why we have the drug war? war being a place of action and death, now i do feel bad for those who must be there fighting for the face of good, but it is simply there time to go, so dont fear FOURTH YOU HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR!! GOD IS ALWAYS WATCHING YOU,

and while on this speak of death i must add do not fear death fourth how amazing and glorious to die! and leave our bodies to see our savior! now i am not saying go do suciued but live your partail human life as long as possible spread the gospel! and just pray! live! and remember who died for you * fourth he had alot more to give up than our simple human life*
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ohkay i ment to make the title "gangs?" what does the bible say about them?
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hmmmmm, well, in my opinion, gangs are caused by corruption in the community. most things gangs do is...... pretty much a sin. i mean, what's the real meaning of "gang"? probably if you look it up, the answer will be revealed to you. idk what the bible has to say about gangs, but alot of things are just common sence, but idk about this. Nice topic bro.
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but i must say its amazing how if a gang person does turn his life towards god they end up being an amazing christian, for me gang people just need someone to listten to and iff you do that you can grpw there respect and eventuelly invite them to church
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Thank you for posting this =)
Even if just one person who is in a gang sees it & reads it then gets to thinking , it is good =D
Ill have to add that when you are young you dont care you simply want people to respect you & if they dont you dont want to look like you got punked or something so they say something or do something.
Thats teenagers & sometimes some adults for ya.
But once you get older you realize its not worth it, flunking for skipping to much, or getting expelled, suspended or so on for fighting to much Or arrested & spending many nights locked up,. Just not worth it, especially once you start a family. Thats when most of those people try or do change & for the best or atleast start making imporvements.

From the beggining they should have been taught about God & how things like that are just not worth it,
I mean Yeah if someone hits you then of course defend yourself but its best to not start drama or continue drama
Its a bunch of nonsence... (----------- I learned that the hard way... >_>
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Thank you for posting this =)
Even if just one person who is in a gang sees it & reads it then gets to thinking , it is good =D
Ill have to add that when you are young you dont care you simply want people to respect you & if they dont you dont want to look like you got punked or something so they say something or do something.
Thats teenagers & sometimes some adults for ya.
But once you get older you realize its not worth it, flunking for skipping to much, or getting expelled, suspended or so on for fighting to much Or arrested & spending many nights locked up,. Just not worth it, especially once you start a family. Thats when most of those people try or do change & for the best or atleast start making imporvements.

From the beggining they should have been taught about God & how things like that are just not worth it,
I mean Yeah if someone hits you then of course defend yourself but its best to not start drama or continue drama
Its a bunch of nonsence... (----------- I learned that the hard way... >_>

well i have bein hit a couple times but i dont hit back i just tell them that they are making a imature mistake and why fight when we can love? and for me i am starting "A" team linebacker so its not like people call me a wimp for not fighting back i just think before i act and i just view the world around me more than others who just look at the ground
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and that takes alot of courage bro. honestly, when someone hits me and they want me to hit back, i say no and it ends with me being punched a couple times. when my friends ask me why didnt i fight, i simply say 'what makes you think i will swoop down to his leveL? anyone can through a punch, but it takes a real man or women to hold your fists."
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and that takes alot of courage bro. honestly, when someone hits me and they want me to hit back, i say no and it ends with me being punched a couple times. when my friends ask me why didnt i fight, i simply say 'what makes you think i will swoop down to his leveL? anyone can through a punch, but it takes a real man or women to hold your fists."

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lol thats not what kids at my school say, they say it makes me an easy target, vulnerable, but they dont know what kind of bodyguard us christians have, and they will have to face him one day, and thats the heavenly father.. so i'm gonna keep my fists to my sides until my lord Jesus Christ returns to take all of us home.
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lol thats not what kids at my school say, they say it makes me an easy target, vulnerable, but they dont know what kind of bodyguard us christians have, and they will have to face him one day, and thats the heavenly father.. so i'm gonna keep my fists to my sides until my lord Jesus Christ returns to take all of us home.
I think its funny how people, us human beings, do there best to keep safe when i meen if we die look at whats to come, we may go through pain but i mean look how small it is to burning in an eternal flame

2 Corinthians 4:17

"These troubles and sufferings of ours are, after all, quite small and won't last very long. Yet this short time of distress will result in God's richest blessing upon us forever and ever!"

this verse to me is saying all of our small amounts of pain will not last and if we do go though a small amount of pain and die.. than look at the result.. HEAVEN! and the face of our heavenly father!
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amen to that bro. i mean, a few bruses and going to heaven for ever and ever is alot better then fighting back and being feared and then burning in hell for eternity. ummmm, i pick option 1 lol. like what i always say, the fearless will soon be the fearfull.
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amen to that bro. i mean, a few bruses and going to heaven for ever and ever is alot better then fighting back and being feared and then burning in hell for eternity. ummmm, i pick option 1 lol. like what i always say, the fearless will soon be the fearfull.

thats an awsome qoute!! i am going to use that in one of my next post!! thanks man!
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and that takes alot of courage bro. honestly, when someone hits me and they want me to hit back, i say no and it ends with me being punched a couple times. when my friends ask me why didnt i fight, i simply say 'what makes you think i will swoop down to his leveL? anyone can through a punch, but it takes a real man or women to hold your fists."
It gets hard for me to hold my fists down sometimes. Then I think, 'why do something I'd regret anyway?' or 'why are you willing to stoop down to their level?' But then sometimes I get so sick of it I go for it.
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That is why I don't get along with my brothers. Lately I have been taking the hits well, but how do you remain completely passive about it?
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well, its impossible to keep your fists under control without God's help. so i would pray for God to give you the love Jesus had for us, because i really don't think Jesus would raise his fists against us. thats what i did, i praid for the love of Jesus to shine through my life and to take me over like a wildfire. and, God answered my prayers. for my whole middle school and highschool life i have almost never hit anyone including my brothers. but God bless you, from the message you wrote, i can see your trying. i will pray for you.
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It gets hard for me to hold my fists down sometimes. Then I think, 'why do something I'd regret anyway?' or 'why are you willing to stoop down to their level?' But then sometimes I get so sick of it I go for it.

when you say you get angry and sick of it well i am reminded of 1 Corinthians 10:13

1 Corinthians 10:13 (New Living Translation)

13 The temptations in your life are no different from what others experience. And God is faithful. He will not allow the temptation to be more than you can stand. When you are tempted, he will show you a way out so that you can endure.





1 Corinthians 10:13 (New King James Version)

13 No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.
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Gangs are very dangerous. They may come out as an innocent fit in group but its much more than that. Just because you see them wearing colors or whatever doesn't mean their okay because the majority of gangs kill, steal, rape, etc in the name of fitting in. You are very right the individuals in gangs are usually nice and smart but once they are together its a whole different story.
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Gangs are very dangerous. They may come out as an innocent fit in group but its much more than that. Just because you see them wearing colors or whatever doesn't mean their okay because the majority of gangs kill, steal, rape, etc in the name of fitting in. You are very right the individuals in gangs are usually nice and smart but once they are together its a whole different story.

I know my life goal is to abblolish Gangs.. i know its a big goal so i just mainly hope to put a big dent in it and i tell you i am doing some work there! but ike i said.. i ment to name the post ""Gangs?" what does the bible say about them?"
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hmmmm, i dont know what the bible says about gangs actually, but its common sence that being in a gang is sinful for all they do in gangs are sinfull things.
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