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Jul 18, 2009
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how do we know that the "Big Bang" didnt happen. I really want to get over the thought of that.
I am Christian and I am stressed out about science.
"Big bang is just a theory"
 
Jul 18, 2009
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You do not believe in God. You believe in the bible. What nonsense is this?? How can one who believes in God's Word not believe in God??
Also the method (carbon 14 -dating) that scientist use to determine the age of a fossil is flawed.Carbon-14 is an unstable, radioactive isotope of carbon 12. As with any radioactive isotope, carbon-14 decays over time.First, for carbon-14 dating to be accurate, one must assume the rate of decay of carbon-14 has remained constant over the years.The second faulty assumption is that the rate of carbon-14 formation has remained constant over the years. This assumption is erronous because the industrail revolution greatly increased the amount of carbon-12 released into the atmosphere through the burning of coal.Also, the atomic bomb testing around 1950 caused a rise in neutrons, which increased carbon-14 concentrations . Third, for carbon-14 dating to be accurate, the concentrations of carbon-14 and carbon-12 must have remained constant in the atmosphere.
Last but not least, animals that where thought to be exstint have been found to exist
 
Jul 27, 2009
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Cause and effect law. There is no way for a effect being bigger than the cause, so how the big bang could happened, and the world since this has being more and more complex? It seems to be a science contradition.
What about the biogenesis theory, that say LIFE creates LIFE, people who believes in the Big Bang theory just forgot to say who pressed the Button, and ignores the fact that something without life has created this world....hehe
God is the perfect creator, He is the Cause and we are not more complex than him. Also, he is the LIFE that gave us LIFE.
 
Jul 27, 2009
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Cause and effect law. There is no way for a effect being bigger than the cause, so how the big bang could happened, and the world since this has being more and more complex? It seems to be a science contradition.
What about the biogenesis theory, that say LIFE creates LIFE, people who believes in the Big Bang theory just forgot to say who pressed the Button, and ignores the fact that something without life couldn't create this world....hehe
God is the perfect creator, He is the Cause and we are not more complex than him. Also, he is the LIFE that gave us LIFE.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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Well said, Lucas
 
Jun 29, 2009
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Cause and effect law. There is no way for a effect being bigger than the cause, so how the big bang could happened, and the world since this has being more and more complex? It seems to be a science contradition.
What about the biogenesis theory, that say LIFE creates LIFE, people who believes in the Big Bang theory just forgot to say who pressed the Button, and ignores the fact that something without life couldn't create this world....hehe
God is the perfect creator, He is the Cause and we are not more complex than him. Also, he is the LIFE that gave us LIFE.
That is techincally incorrect. First of all, the law of causality only appies to our daily life, it has no value in quantum mechanics. I'm quoting: "Relativity and quantum mechanics have forced physicists to abandon these assumptions as exact statements of what happens at the most fundamental levels, but they remain valid at the level of human experience."

Secondly you can create life from lifeless materia. It happens on a daily basis. Here is some information about that:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis

And if you want to create life yourself, just follow this experiment from the fifties:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller-Urey_experiment

Thirdly, you are right. Something had to cause the big bang. "Something" can't spawn out of "nothing". According to the relativity theory, there had to be either matter or energy to cause the big bang. Where could that energy come from if not from god?
 

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I don't know why there is so much pressure these days to reconcile the truths of the bible with scientific theories. If you truly believe in the truth of the bible, then you shouldn't have to worry about scientifically verifying its claims. Yes its good to be prudent and research the claims made by a book which determines the way you live your life, but if you truly believe that the bible was inspired by God and is the truth, then you shouldn't feel the need to prove its claims yourself through man-made systems and theories. Questioning and researching the bible's claims is one thing, but trying to interpret its words in such a way as to make them compatible with our fallible earthly scientific way of thinking is something different entirely. If anyone has trouble believing that the events of the bible happened as described, it is their faith in God that they should be investigating, not science.
 
Jun 29, 2009
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I think it is your duty to verify your believes, otherwise you could be wrong without even noticing. Just think of all the Muslims! They believe without any verification, they "trust in god" like you suggest and they couldn't to more wrong. How do you know that WE don't make the same mistake?

You for example believe that the bible is to be taken literally. Although nearly everything stated in Genesis 1 is proven to be wrong (simple example: outer space does not consist of water as it says in the bible/the word didn't end around 1500 as is says in the bible, and so on). That leads us to two possible conclusions:
First: The bible is completely wrong, nothing in there has any value. Only a fool would think that.
Second: The bible is not 1:1 the word of god, but INSPIRED by the word of god. Therefor the bible is not 100% accurate but 100% valuable.

I don't understand what the big deal is about that.