A few Words Can Change the World!

[Roughsoul1991]

We all should keep in mind we as people who have social media accounts have a responsibility. You may not think about the outcome of your freedom of speech. But yes, it's free but we must be responsible with our words. Words are powerful and can end or start wars. Uncle Tom's Cabin had a big attribute to starting the Civil War by only jotting words down in a book. The Boston Massacre occurred on March 5, 1770. The actual event which left 5 colonists dead left us to wonder who shot first that started the snowball effect leading to the death of innocent people. Only three weeks later Paul Revere's engraving had the title The Bloody Massacre in Kings Street. Which had the historical picture at the bottom which actually distorted the facts and made it look as an act of war. Now it is only a matter of opinion if these two examples were justified to starting violence to create freedom. With all the hate in this country just ask yourself three questions. Is my post helping support peaceful causes or support violence? When is violence necessary? And does violence solve the problem? Violence is necessary to produce or defend freedom but you have to be very careful on deciding if violence is the answer. After all, America would not be the United States if we did not decide to take up arms. I AM NOT saying violence is the answer to all circumstances because we do have peaceful legal actions we can take if people stand together instead of in separation. So just remember your post could start a war or end a war. Be responsible people and above all what would Jesus do!

 

[friendinpeace]

if a few simple words can be this powerful,

violence is necessary the moment protests of peaceful sort are subverted?

the book uncle tom was a peaceful protest, though the boston massacre, and the revolutionary WAR, was because the government wanted some cents on the dollar at the store for tea? and today this was deemed necessary?

is there anything I can say to make peace seem necessary today?

arg! come on there's gotta be something to point to to condemn violence compared to what used to warrant it?

hey folks, does it not say how much we've grown not resorting to violence less than we ever used to?

the human race on a level of the people is less violent today than it could have ever used to be

now if we could only convince governments to follow, not take advantage, we could have a much more peaceful world

we are doing well though, more temptation to be violent than ever, less violence than ever for what we deal with.

"don't act in anger" "love thy neighbor"

friendinpeace

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Someone fighting to be free is a very dangerous person. Make someone believe he/she has nothing to lose but everything to gain in one's personal freedom will bring forth a warrior. We live in a world filled with evil and we are told peace will not come until Christ returns. God does not condemn violence in a biblical righteous stand point. Angels are warriors and we see in revelations Jesus will return ready to do battle.

[h=1]Luke 22:36Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)[/h][FONT=&quot]36 Then He said to them, “But now, whoever has a money-bag should take it, and also a traveling bag. And whoever doesn’t have a sword should sell his robe and buy one.

This verse is speaking from a self-defense point of view. The disciples were about to be traveling and the roads and alleys were filled with thieves and the country roads had hungry animals.

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[h=1]Matthew 8:9-10Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)[/h][FONT=&quot]9 For I too am a man under authority, having soldiers under my command. I say to this one, ‘Go!’ and he goes; and to another, ‘Come!’ and he comes; and to my slave, ‘Do this!’ and he does it.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]10 Hearing this, Jesus was amazed and said to those following Him, “I assure you: I have not found anyone in Israel with so great a faith!

Jesus could have easily laid down the whole teaching on loving your enemy, knowing this man was a soldier. But he praised him on his faith instead.

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[h=1]Romans 13:4Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)[/h][FONT=&quot]4 For government is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, because it does not carry the sword for no reason. For government is God’s servant, an avenger that brings wrath on the one who does wrong.

I am by no means saying violence is the answer to all problems I only believe as a civilian I am allowed to self-defense and or the defense of others (my family). If I was a soldier or cop then I too would be justified in using violence to defend freedom or uphold the peace. But also our constitution The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." This being part of our government gives us the right to defend ourselves against a corrupted government who tries to eliminate our freedoms.

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[h=1]Romans 13Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)[/h][h=3]A Christian’s Duties to the State[/h][FONT=&quot]13 Everyone must submit to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those that exist are instituted by God.2 So then, the one who resists the authority is opposing God’s command, and those who oppose it will bring judgment on themselves.

Our government put the 2nd amendment in the constitution so we the people could always stay free. And since this is part of our government and if our government decides to not be a democracy we are given permission through the constitution to defend ourselves against tyranny. With this being part of our government, it gives us the authority to defend.

Take notice in all cases except being a soldier we are allowed to defend ourselves against evil. Being a soldier obviously has to defend and attack in order to promote peace or freedom. Nowhere I recommended to act in violence other than defense and or the legal stand-point from the constitution.


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[friendinpeace]

Angels in the book of what is said to come go out in battle and lose their place in heaven.

The first verse you present is simply obvious, do not let anything happen to you because of lack of protection.

The second one I do not see as a statement which loving your enemy could be applied, I think the point it is trying to make is. Jesus commended this man for such faith because he says he says to his slave, do, and it gets done, nd to another go and he goes, and another come and he comes, and begins by saying he is a slave, and views his place as the same as the one he orders. Viewing religious devotion the same as devotion of a person listening to a person leads the person to have so much faith requiring him to view religious beliefs as real, as everyday things, and having humility of realizing his place is so similar to God he views it as no different than he would want his slave to view it, things like "is my master real" or such lack of faith is not even mentioned, he simply states he is a slave like those other people and his are to him.

The next quote I would view as secondary to scripture saying you should obey He who has all authority over men, if jesus is upset about adopting rules of washing your hands and seeing them as important like a decree from God, whether or not somebody has a substance in their pocket should be second to all other applicable principals from the Bible.

with the next quote, it would depend on the reason for their disobedience, if they feel it was not their will but something He told them to do, they should do it, to not put governments over the Bible.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

You missed my point I was in the notion you was against violence. Angels who are under God's command will not lose their place in Heaven by doing battle. And in the passage with the soldier, I understand what it means but what I was referring to was people get confused with Jesus's passage about loving your enemy. I was only pointing out if this passage applied to soldiers use of violence then Jesus would have probably mentioned it to this soldier who was seeking Jesus.
God tells us to submit to the government so this is not making the government over the Bible. Our great for fathers of this country made the constitution to protect our freedoms. Which allows us to obey our government even if it means taking up arms through the second amendment to protect our country from tyranny. With all this in mind, we as Christians do put God first and with our freedom gives us the same rights as any other to protect our freedom of religion. In these dark and unsure times, we can not be spineless but as it says in [h=1]1 Peter 3:15Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)[/h][FONT=&quot]15 but honor the Messiah as Lord in your hearts. Always be ready to give a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you.

Like I said above am not saying violence is the answer I am only trying to prove God does not condemn violence. Violence is okay to a biblical standard. Basically, if one person feels violence is necessary then he must seek God through prayer, scripture, wise guidance from elders and what the Holy Spirit is saying. In most cases, Gods answer will be love but we know evil can not be loved to death. God also gave us common sense to judge wisely. [/FONT]

 

[friendinpeace]

Look, I can see your point, but how can you say they won't when it says they do?

when you say your point was love thy enemy, I fail to see a reference to an enemy in the quote you used.

The first in the ten commandments as also as other places throughout as well say to put He you should as first over governments, and such. Currently I think the existence of the last book of the bible is where it says not to obey currently existing ones. Material for this I heard is also found in Timothy, coming directly from Jesus.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I already explained that above. We have scripture telling us to obey our government and laws within the government. And love your enemy does not relate to the passage I used but when the solder was seeking Jesus. Jesus did not say well you must quit your job before you can follow me since because of your job you can't love your enemy. But instead praised him. Telling me some violence is justified.

 

[friendinpeace]

too much emphasis on who, I think your looking more at who he was and not what was said, he could have been talking about anyone who said what he did, the topic wasn't on being a soldier, so why would you talk about it

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I have my philosophical opinion and you have yours. I believe you think inside the box while I think outside the box. I look at how the whole Bible lives and breaths as one and not just little sections that do not relate to each other.

 

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Let the Saints read His Word and Believe Jesus..

Matthew 5:38-39
38 "You have heard that it was said, "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. 39But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also.


Matthew 5: 43-48
43 "You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' 44But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so? 48Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.


Romans 12:17-21
17Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, "Vengeance is Mine, I will repay," says the Lord. 20Therefore "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; If he is thirsty, give him a drink; For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head." 21Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.


Matthew 5:9
Blessed are the peacemakers, For they shall be called sons of God.


II Corinthians 10:3,4
"For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds."


Ephesians 6:12
"For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places."


Ephesians 6:4
"And you, fathers, do not provoke your children to wrath, but bring them up in the training and admonition of the Lord."


Zechariah 4:6
"Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit, says the Lord of Hosts."



Revelation 13:10
He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Let the Saints read His Word and Believe Jesus..

Matthew 5:38-39
38 "You have heard that it was said, "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. 39But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also.


Matthew 5: 43-48
43 "You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' 44But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so? 48Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.


Romans 12:17-21
17Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, "Vengeance is Mine, I will repay," says the Lord. 20Therefore "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; If he is thirsty, give him a drink; For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head." 21Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.


Matthew 5:9
Blessed are the peacemakers, For they shall be called sons of God.


II Corinthians 10:3,4
"For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds."


Ephesians 6:12
"For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places."


Ephesians 6:4
"And you, fathers, do not provoke your children to wrath, but bring them up in the training and admonition of the Lord."


Zechariah 4:6
"Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit, says the Lord of Hosts."



Revelation 13:10
He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

I stated over and over I was not saying violence was the answer to all things but we are allowed to self defense or defense of our country. End of story if any believes different I hope a burglar never breaks in to your home and I suppose you will allow him do you harm or your family? Or I guess your freedom to practice religion does not matter?

 

[Roughsoul1991]

In fact the point of this post was be responsible with what you say on social media.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

And I suppose being a soldier is a one trip to hell also since he does not show love to our country's enemies?

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Or an officer of the peace?

 

[peacenik]

here are a few words that can change the world: no justice, no peace ~ ​ Isaiah 59:8

 

[Roughsoul1991]

here are a few words that can change the world: no justice, no peace ~ ​ Isaiah 59:8

I was trying to explain what you said but I guess it did not make sense.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

[h=1]Psalm 82:4Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)[/h][FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]4 Rescue the poor and needy;save them from the power of the wicked.”

Giving us the right to protect life

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[h=1]1 Corinthians 6:19-20Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)[/h][FONT=&quot]19 Don’t you know that your body is a sanctuary of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, 20 for you were bought at a price. Therefore glorify God in your body.

Not only we must take care of our bodies but also the life contained within. We have an obligation to preserve the body and protect life of others.

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[h=1]Ezekiel 33Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)[/h][FONT=&quot]33 The word of the Lord came to me: 2 “Son of man, speak to your people and tell them: Suppose I bring the sword against a land, and the people of that land select a man from among them, appointing him as their watchman, 3 and he sees the sword coming against the land and blows his trumpet to warn the people. 4 Then, if anyone hears the sound of the trumpet but ignores the warning, and the sword comes and takes him away, his blood will be on his own head. 5 Since he heard the sound of the trumpet but ignored the warning, his blood is on his own hands.[a]If he had taken warning, he would have saved his life. 6 However, if the watchman sees the sword coming but doesn’t blow the trumpet, so that the people aren’t warned, and the sword comes and takes away their lives, then they have been taken away because of their iniquity, but I will hold the watchman accountable for their blood.

We should not sit idly by while someone is being hurt. But also if we don't act in defense then any innocent blood is on our heads.

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[h=1]Luke 22:35-36Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)[/h][h=3]Be Ready for Trouble[/h][FONT=&quot]35 He also said to them, “When I sent you out without money-bag, traveling bag, or sandals, did you lack anything?”[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]36 Then He said to them, “But now, whoever has a money-bag should take it, and also a traveling bag. And whoever doesn’t have a sword should sell his robe and buy one.

Obviously be ready for trouble and out of defense protect your life or others.
I am obviously speaking on a really mature matter that should not be taken lightly. But just as I explained above the Bible is a living breathing book that all flows together. We should not pick verses without looking at all the verses.

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