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    Default Mental illness - Devil or brain disorder?

    Some of you may know from my postings in the past that I have been diagnosed with bipolar disorder. And I can testify that I am not the same person when I am suffering through my episodes; I can't function in society and often need hospitalization for which my meds need to be adjusted or readministered.

    I live in a very politically conservative state and there has been talk of removing mental health coverage from Medicaid. This affects me, for if I go into the hospital again, we will not be able to pay it next time. Even the Medicaid I qualify for now is a spend-down, because I work and make a certain amount of money.

    I guess the question I'm throwing out there, is pertaining to this: I know this is often a spiritual question, this mental illness. What do you think? Does the devil make me do those things, or is it a chemical imbalance? The bible is not a medical textbook, which some people make the mistake of thinking it is, and I think I make my personal thoughts clear with that statement alone.

    But what do you think?
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    Default Re: Mental illness - Devil or brain disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamie26301 View Post
    Some of you may know from my postings in the past that I have been diagnosed with bipolar disorder. And I can testify that I am not the same person when I am suffering through my episodes; I can't function in society and often need hospitalization for which my meds need to be adjusted or readministered.

    I live in a very politically conservative state and there has been talk of removing mental health coverage from Medicaid. This affects me, for if I go into the hospital again, we will not be able to pay it next time. Even the Medicaid I qualify for now is a spend-down, because I work and make a certain amount of money.

    I guess the question I'm throwing out there, is pertaining to this: I know this is often a spiritual question, this mental illness. What do you think? Does the devil make me do those things, or is it a chemical imbalance? The bible is not a medical textbook, which some people make the mistake of thinking it is, and I think I make my personal thoughts clear with that statement alone.

    But what do you think?
    i also have been diagnosed with it and after many many years of therapy and of learning coping skills I have finally managed to keep it under control for the most part with out meds. I know that when I was on meds it actually made some symptoms worse. I have no idea if that is your situation as II am not a doctor. I strongly believe that it is a brain imbalance and God is very aware of what is going on in your brain. Bipolar is often brought on by early childhood trauma even it can be a trauma we do not remember it physically changes your frontal lobe in the growth process. SO it is not something you could have controlled at all. It is also is linked to heredity this i believe is a genetic thing as well because I have seen issues where children who grow up in no parental homes still end up having bipolar and it is traced back to the birth parents. So be rest assured that I strongly believe it is not a Satan thing at all.. P.S. bipolar if it were traced correctly could go back to the begin times when mosses was fulfilling his deed for God. There was alot of crazy people on that journey with mosses lol. be rest assured you are fine. God knows you individually so have faith in him and do not worry about nonsense you hear about mental illness being Satan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie26301 View Post
    Some of you may know from my postings in the past that I have been diagnosed with bipolar disorder. And I can testify that I am not the same person when I am suffering through my episodes; I can't function in society and often need hospitalization for which my meds need to be adjusted or readministered.

    I live in a very politically conservative state and there has been talk of removing mental health coverage from Medicaid. This affects me, for if I go into the hospital again, we will not be able to pay it next time. Even the Medicaid I qualify for now is a spend-down, because I work and make a certain amount of money.

    I guess the question I'm throwing out there, is pertaining to this: I know this is often a spiritual question, this mental illness. What do you think? Does the devil make me do those things, or is it a chemical imbalance? The bible is not a medical textbook, which some people make the mistake of thinking it is, and I think I make my personal thoughts clear with that statement alone.

    But what do you think?
    The brain is physical, same as the body. Sometimes our body malfunctions, so logically you can conclude that the brain can malfunction too, since it's simply another part of the body. We live in a fallen world with broken bodies. And broken minds. While we cannot ignore the spiritual, neither can we afford to deny the reality of our physical existence. Don't flesh out the spiritual, don't spiritualize the flesh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie26301 View Post
    Some of you may know from my postings in the past that I have been diagnosed with bipolar disorder. And I can testify that I am not the same person when I am suffering through my episodes; I can't function in society and often need hospitalization for which my meds need to be adjusted or readministered.

    I live in a very politically conservative state and there has been talk of removing mental health coverage from Medicaid. This affects me, for if I go into the hospital again, we will not be able to pay it next time. Even the Medicaid I qualify for now is a spend-down, because I work and make a certain amount of money.

    I guess the question I'm throwing out there, is pertaining to this: I know this is often a spiritual question, this mental illness. What do you think? Does the devil make me do those things, or is it a chemical imbalance? The bible is not a medical textbook, which some people make the mistake of thinking it is, and I think I make my personal thoughts clear with that statement alone.

    But what do you think?
    The devil can not force you and neither can God.

    God can tell you to lean on him and his word to fight the lies inside your head.

    The devil can plant lies and tempt you, but not control you. He just tempts what is already in the flesh or place lies within your brain to help you fall further from Christ.

    So yes there is a spiritual side but also a physical side. The body doesn't always run at a perfect performance. God creates all perfect but when his creation enters into the world of free will. The actions of people or outward disease, aging, or disorders in the anatomy due to the parents passing it down to a new generation, can affect life. Things happen that are out of our control, our bodies are subjected to the curse of Adam.

    The main reason we need Jesus because in this physical body we dont know when our last breath will be.

    These struggles in the right way of thinking can bring you closer to Christ and can motivate others with your testimony.

    God created all things within his nature which is good.

    But humans free will can abuse Gods good creation.

    Medicine is good until humans abuse it.

    So take the meds you need and get the therapy needed.

    Remember God only hold you accountable to what you do in your stable mental mind, not the unstable.

    But if you have the choice to get help within your your stable state then your responsible.

    But obviously if its out of your control like with affordability then just do your best, let go and let God.

    God can handle all your struggles.
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    The medical profession denies spiritual effects and influences within mental illness. What is interesting is a lot of people within religion, and believing in God, have more faith in the medical profession than with God.

    While the medical professional does account accurately for all things 'partially', by that I mean the analyse of symptoms, chemical structures, biology, and diagnosis/categories, I think God/spirit/spiritual influence, plays a much bigger part.

    Can a chemical imbalance become a habitual cycle? Eg. A trauma induced reaction cycle? Secondly, can the chemical structures of our brain be affected by our outward perspective? Yes and yes. If one believes wholey in what a doctor says, does that trap them in the belief of it, usually forever? Yes. Eg. You will be a vegetable all your life, you will never be able to speak, you will never read or write, you will never walk, you will need to take drugs all your life, you will never be cured from this. Doctors says such things with absolute confidence. It is not how God talks though.

    I will say that while I try to rely very little on the medical profession (as in not be dependant on them as the WHOLE truth), I really believe that perfect healing, only really comes from God. So I really try to have an open mind and think outside the box.

    I've known people to be cured of things such as cancer based on working on one faithful perspective under God - I AM healed.

    After all, what did Jesus say to some people; go see the doctor, instant healing is not possible?

    It is the example of Jesus which make me believe that anything is possible.



    Quote Originally Posted by jamie26301 View Post
    Some of you may know from my postings in the past that I have been diagnosed with bipolar disorder. And I can testify that I am not the same person when I am suffering through my episodes; I can't function in society and often need hospitalization for which my meds need to be adjusted or readministered.

    I live in a very politically conservative state and there has been talk of removing mental health coverage from Medicaid. This affects me, for if I go into the hospital again, we will not be able to pay it next time. Even the Medicaid I qualify for now is a spend-down, because I work and make a certain amount of money.

    I guess the question I'm throwing out there, is pertaining to this: I know this is often a spiritual question, this mental illness. What do you think? Does the devil make me do those things, or is it a chemical imbalance? The bible is not a medical textbook, which some people make the mistake of thinking it is, and I think I make my personal thoughts clear with that statement alone.

    But what do you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mj007 View Post
    The medical profession denies spiritual effects and influences within mental illness. What is interesting is a lot of people within religion, and believing in God, have more faith in the medical profession than with God.

    While the medical professional does account accurately for all things 'partially', by that I mean the analyse of symptoms, chemical structures, biology, and diagnosis/categories, I think God/spirit/spiritual influence, plays a much bigger part.

    Can a chemical imbalance become a habitual cycle? Eg. A trauma induced reaction cycle? Secondly, can the chemical structures of our brain be affected by our outward perspective? Yes and yes. If one believes wholey in what a doctor says, does that trap them in the belief of it, usually forever? Yes. Eg. You will be a vegetable all your life, you will never be able to speak, you will never read or write, you will never walk, you will need to take drugs all your life, you will never be cured from this. Doctors says such things with absolute confidence. It is not how God talks though.

    I will say that while I try to rely very little on the medical profession (as in not be dependant on them as the WHOLE truth), I really believe that perfect healing, only really comes from God. So I really try to have an open mind and think outside the box.

    I've known people to be cured of things such as cancer based on working on one faithful perspective under God - I AM healed.

    After all, what did Jesus say to some people; go see the doctor, instant healing is not possible?

    It is the example of Jesus which make me believe that anything is possible.
    people have also died ignoring the fact that they need medical attention and relied on God's mercy. God did put medicine in mans mind for a reason. yes I agree that labels and other babble can go a bit to far.. but if anyone needs medical attention the should always seek it.......
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