Christmas is paganism?

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Jan 14, 2017
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That time of year is rolling around the corner again. Christmas time is back with all the presents and my of the season. Also coming back are the people claiming Christmas is a pagan celebration, birth of Nimrod, and other stuff. There are plenty of explanations on YouTube if you look it up. This is frightening for me as I have celebrated Christmas all my life. I do think society has put a sinful twist on the holiday making it about stuff and not Jesus. But could someone help me whether or not to celebrate Christmas because I don't want to follow the devil. I only follow Jesus, God almighty, so please help me.
 

Magenta

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God desires those who worship Him in Spirit and in Truth, whether there are trees with lights and presents under them or not. The reason for the season is of course Jesus Christ, but the secular world has commercialized the holiday, which does have pagan roots, but that should not stop you from enjoying extra time with family and friends, and sharing in the warmth of the season. It may even give you extra opportunities to witness to others :) God bless you, Alex!

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Ezekiel8

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Christmas isn't pagan. Pagan is a just sort of a generic catch all term for any religion that is not Christianity. So if Christmas literally means Christ Mass, then it logically follows that Christmas is not pagan. As for the birth of Nimrod, pretty sure there is no birth day ascribed to Nimrod, the mighty hunter before the Lord. Now with that understood, yes there is a certain truth that Christmas in the mainstream society of today is sorta commercialized and cheapened to the point of having little to no religious significance or resemblance to Christianity for many people, but that doesn't make it pagan. You don't have to feel bad for celebrating Christmas, even if it were a non-Christian holiday, which it is not, there is still nothing anyone can judge you on biblically for celebrating it.

Colossians 2:16

[SUP]16 [/SUP]Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
 

vic1980

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I would suggest to look into the History of the church were did these holidays originated .


Holy Days and Religious Holidays.​

The Pilgrims did not celebrate Christmas and Easter.
They believed that these holidays were invented by man to memorialize Jesus, and are not prescribed by the Bible or celebrated by the early Christian churches, and therefore cannot be considered Holy days. "It seems too much for any mortal man to appoint, or make an anniversary memorial [for Christ]," taught the Pilgrims' pastor John Robinson. The book Perth Assembly (Leiden, 1618)--the book that got Elder William Brewster into such hot water with the King of England and ultimately resulted in the confiscation of his printing press--was largely about the rejection of Christmas and other appointed "Holy Days."
 
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Names of the days of the week. Pagan.
Wedding ring. Pagan.
Many wedding traditions. Pagan.
Society is filled with things which contain pagan roots. Who cares? All these people that bark about pagan holidays engage in other "pagan" practices and refuse to deal with that when you ask. Why is it ok for them to indulge in Some pagan practices but not others? Hypocrisy. That's why.
Don't fall into the hypocrites patterns.
 
Jan 9, 2016
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It’s a day we celebrate the birth of Christ, the evergreen tree symbolizes Jesus forever living. The red we use to decorate symbolizes the blood shed to wash away our sins. If you make the day about Christ and understand the things you do are to celebrate his coming then your okay. It’s only pagan if you make it pagan.

For example if if I put up a Christmas tree, decorate it, than bow before it and worship it then yes it’s pagan and I’m worshiping and idol. But if I’m using these things as symbols for celebrating my God and him coming to this world to set us free, then it’s about Christ.
 

Demi777

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It has pegan roots like easter and Halloween too. I dont celebrate any, i just enjoy my days off.
 
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I would suggest to look into the History of the church were did these holidays originated .


Holy Days and Religious Holidays.​

The Pilgrims did not celebrate Christmas and Easter.
They believed that these holidays were invented by man to memorialize Jesus, and are not prescribed by the Bible or celebrated by the early Christian churches, and therefore cannot be considered Holy days. "It seems too much for any mortal man to appoint, or make an anniversary memorial [for Christ]," taught the Pilgrims' pastor John Robinson. The book Perth Assembly (Leiden, 1618)--the book that got Elder William Brewster into such hot water with the King of England and ultimately resulted in the confiscation of his printing press--was largely about the rejection of Christmas and other appointed "Holy Days."
Your argument might be valid, but... what the pilgrims did or did not do is irrelevant. They are not our standard. Pointing at a group of Christians doesn't prove anything. Except what particular group believed.
 
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No it is not.Here is a great article about it...



http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2971709/posts
 

blue_ladybug

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Dude, it ain't even Thanksgiving yet... :rolleyes:
 

EarsToHear

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If you're celebrating Christ's conception, go for it.

There's a big push by Satan's servants to remove God from our vocabulary. For example, how many retailers post "Mary Christmas" on their windows anymore? They fail to do this even tho most of their customers are likely Christians.
 

Dude653

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Most Christmas traditions are indeed rooted in paganism. The Christmas tree represents a sun god name Tamus
 

notmyown

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Veiled in flesh the Godhead see
Hail the incarnate Deity
Pleased as man with man to dwell
Jesus, our Emmanuel
Hark! The herald angels sing
"Glory to the newborn King!"

that's how, and why, i celebrate Christmas. y'all should do as conscience dictates.
 
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Christmas, Winter Solstice. I think if you go dance around some sacred stones you are Pagan, but if you celebrate it as Christmas, you love Christmas shopping.
 
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joefizz

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Your argument might be valid, but... what the pilgrims did or did not do is irrelevant. They are not our standard. Pointing at a group of Christians doesn't prove anything. Except what particular group believed.
no kidding man,how many people you see nowadays wearing that sort of clothing or seeking to be as they were?
nowadays people are more about current news and discoveries.
 
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joefizz

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Most Christmas traditions are indeed rooted in paganism. The Christmas tree represents a sun god name Tamus
ok now you are making me laugh,noone has mentioned that the germans were the ones who started the whole christmas tree idea,sun god my eye lol,people way over think things.
 
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joefizz

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Ahem,anyone notice Christmas has "Christ" in it?
Christmas represents the birth of Jesus,but naw duh people changed things over time but the moral of it is still the same the holiday is about giving of ourselves just as God had Jesus born to this earth him in essence being the first gift of Christmas,it's not about getting a bunch of presents or putting up lights or trees it's about caring for each other just as God cared about us so much to send to this world his only begotten son.
 

vic1980

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Your argument might be valid, but... what the pilgrims did or did not do is irrelevant. They are not our standard. Pointing at a group of Christians doesn't prove anything. Except what particular group believed.
The standard now is the same as then , The Word of God . For those that are born again , not of man but by God.
 

Hizikyah

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Jeremyah 10:1-6, "Hear the word which YHWH speaks concerning you, O house of Israyl. This is what YHWH says: Do not learn the way of the heathen and do not be deceived by the signs of heaven; though the heathen are deceived by them For the religious customs of the peoples are vain; worthless! For one cuts a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the ax. They decorate it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, so that it will not move; topple over. They are upright, like a palm tree, but they cannot speak; they must be carried, because they cannot go by themselves. Do not give them reverence! They cannot do evil, nor is it in them to do righteousness!"[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Colossians 2:8, "Beware that no one leads you away like a prize because of philosophy or empty, false statements, according to the traditions of men, after the elements of the world, and not after the Messiah!"[/FONT]