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Thread: Homosexuality = Wrong CHOICE

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    I was reading a post that some guy from Ireland wrote about being gay, and what it means to him, and claiming to be a child of God. My first expression was one of disgust, and then my second was one of sorrow for that person's heart. I am in no way a judge by any means, shape or form, and being saved by Christ, I am not even called to be a judge, but preach the Gospel and share the Word. Whether a person accepts Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior is completely on them and up to them, and I can't say one way or the other that a person is saved or not saved. But what troubles me in this regard is people who claim to love the Lord, and claim to be saved, but yet condone this lifestyle and say that God made them that way......no, that is a lie straight out of the deepest pit of Hell.

    Anyone who makes this claim doesn't really truly understand that God is perfect....God does not condone sin...He cannot even LOOK upon sin. When even his own son Jesus died on the cross for our sins, he even turned his back on his own son because he could not look upon the sin of the world. That's how perfect and just our God is.

    We also know that God does not create sin....Adam and Eve and all the creations of the world were created without sin and spotless and blameless. Adam and Eve's rebellion by way of the serpent, caused sin to fall upon the Earth and upon all mankind. God had absolutely no hand in sin falling upon man.

    By saying that, I say this. We know God does not condone sin nor does he create sin. If someone says, "Well I was born this way, God created me this way." That right there destroys what witness you may have. To say that God created a person homosexually in essence is to say that God is not perfect, God is not just, that God changes, that he condones sin. We know this is a false teaching and a false understanding of the Word. For if God were to create a person this way, there would have been no need for Christ to come and redeem us of our sins, and the verses of Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 would have been vain and void.

    God created man and woman, not man with man nor woman with woman. Genesis is very distinct and clear on this.

    I'm not saying that a person who comes to know Jesus and is in that kind of lifestyle isn't saved....but I know Jesus cleanses us of all unrighteousness and changes a person's life through and through, inside and out, Behold old things are gone away, behold all things are become new. A person who knows and loves and follows Jesus and the Word should want to give up that kind of lifestyle, because it is unholy, it is unrighteous and it is outlined in God's word that it's wrong and an abomination.


    Verdict: Homosexuality is a choice....the wrong choice.
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    I'm not sure of the conclusions you have reached brother. God formed us in the womb. We can all agree on that. Although I believe we are all CREATIONS by God, I don't believe we are all CHILDREN of God.

    If we were not created in the womb in a fallen state, that we inherited from Adam, and were instead created like Adam BEFORE the fall, then indeed we would have the ability to save ourselves by living a perfect life, having NOT the sin nature, and would have NO need to be born again as a NEW Creation.

    I am by NO means excusing the sin of homosexuality or any other sin. Being born with it does NOT excuse it. It should ONLY show us that we need a Savior even more!

    Merely pointing out that the sinful desires of the flesh, we ARE born with. Praise God that He sent His Son to save us from our predicament!

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    Because we live in a fallen world, we are all essentially predisposed to sin- we are sinful in our very flesh, yes, but I mean we each are More susceptible to certain types of sin. For instance, I’m no thief, nor am I an alcoholic, or a murderer- but I have my own laundry list of sinful behaviors that I lean towards.

    I believe this is Why so many people think they were born gay- because of our individual predispositions towards particular temptations. But it is absolutely a Choice- or a series of choices- that lead us down those paths.
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    People are NOT born gay. That's ridiculous. They may get exposure to that behavior later on in life, but they're NOT born as a gay person...



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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_ladybug View Post
    People are NOT born gay. That's ridiculous. They may get exposure to that behavior later on in life, but they're NOT born as a gay person...

    ​Sigh,this again? How long are we going to go round this circle?!
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    As long as people keep making threads like this.. lol


    Quote Originally Posted by kaylagrl View Post
    ​Sigh,this again? How long are we going to go round this circle?!
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    Blue ladybug, fearless leader of the orange kitty battalion! She loves orange tabbies and is innocent as decreed by Pottersclay who states that Scripture says that all people who love orange tabbies are innocent. Truthtalk says that God created the world, and then He created wonderful orange tabbies. Joefizz has elected blue ladybug as captain of the brave orange kitty ​army!



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    Quote Originally Posted by PennEd View Post

    I'm not sure of the conclusions you have reached brother. God formed us in the womb. We can all agree on that. Although I believe we are all CREATIONS by God, I don't believe we are all CHILDREN of God.

    If we were not created in the womb in a fallen state, that we inherited from Adam, and were instead created like Adam BEFORE the fall, then indeed we would have the ability to save ourselves by living a perfect life, having NOT the sin nature, and would have NO need to be born again as a NEW Creation.

    I am by NO means excusing the sin of homosexuality or any other sin. Being born with it does NOT excuse it. It should ONLY show us that we need a Savior even more!

    Merely pointing out that the sinful desires of the flesh, we ARE born with. Praise God that He sent His Son to save us from our predicament!
    In essence my thought was just this, God creates us in the womb, we are born into a sinful nature, but God does not create us to be homosexual. That's why I believe that it's a choice, not something God placed inside of you from the very moment you're created in the womb.

    When I hear someone who claims they love the Lord, yet still lives in that lifestyle and floats it about and says I can't help it because the Lord made them that way, they're trying to JUSTIFY that lifestyle of sin, rather than give it up as our Lord would want us to do from all sin.
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    Exactly.. If God created them gay, or a murderer, or an adulterer or whatever, then those things wouldn't be a sin.. We could just blame God and say, "He made me that way"..


    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelOwen View Post
    In essence my thought was just this, God creates us in the womb, we are born into a sinful nature, but God does not create us to be homosexual. That's why I believe that it's a choice, not something God placed inside of you from the very moment you're created in the womb.

    When I hear someone who claims they love the Lord, yet still lives in that lifestyle and floats it about and says I can't help it because the Lord made them that way, they're trying to JUSTIFY that lifestyle of sin, rather than give it up as our Lord would want us to do from all sin.
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    Blue ladybug, fearless leader of the orange kitty battalion! She loves orange tabbies and is innocent as decreed by Pottersclay who states that Scripture says that all people who love orange tabbies are innocent. Truthtalk says that God created the world, and then He created wonderful orange tabbies. Joefizz has elected blue ladybug as captain of the brave orange kitty ​army!



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    Default Re: Homosexuality = Wrong CHOICE

    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelOwen View Post
    In essence my thought was just this, God creates us in the womb, we are born into a sinful nature, but God does not create us to be homosexual. That's why I believe that it's a choice, not something God placed inside of you from the very moment you're created in the womb.

    When I hear someone who claims they love the Lord, yet still lives in that lifestyle and floats it about and says I can't help it because the Lord made them that way, they're trying to JUSTIFY that lifestyle of sin, rather than give it up as our Lord would want us to do from all sin.
    Agree with you here brother. I want to be adamant that because I say that we are born with a sin nature, that is NOT an excuse to sin. The choice to act on that sin nature is on us. BUT, Scripture says the natural man CANNOT stop sinning, he MUST be born again. That's why it's so paramount to deliver the Gospel to the unsaved.

    This fellow today needed to hear the pure, unadulterated Gospel. He needs to be prayed for, and hopefully he will accept it. I am with you that if he is not convicted in any way by his homosexual sin it is unlikely he has the Holy Spirit.

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