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Certainly not, Repent and ask for forgiveness.

Let the Holy spirit guide you.

You have been deceived, like we all have but in different ways.

Do not give into this temptation, seek and find the love and Salvation offered to us all through Yeshua son of Almighty Yahweh.

You have given into something, where we all may have given into something else.

Seek help from the one that can help you find out why this not acceptable, do not allow this to ruin your eternal life with your Heavenly Father, overcome all this for the reward.

We all have done wicked, but we can be forgiven, Yeshua is waiting for you to let him in.
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I understand that its hard trust me i use to be bi when i went out with my friends beautiful girls would always

say come on lets kiss sexy and i would go and kiss other girls and then the men that were there with us would

cheer and call us sexy so i thought it was alright to do that until i discovered Christianity now i know that what i

did was a sin and wrong ive repented but im still attracted to both women and men i don't know why i just am

but i am asking god to help me with that
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Not at all man Just be who you are regardless of what people think or say! Good luck with what ever path you decide to take man
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Not at all man Just be who you are regardless of what people think or say! Good luck with what ever path you decide to take man

No, do not take this attitude, you have to care what Almighty Yahweh God thinks!

Do not seek comfort in other sinners views, repent and ask for the strength to overcome this.

Yeshua our Saviour is our King, he is not a free pass to "be who you are" that is not what we should do, we be what the Almighty Yahweh wants us to be. This behaviour comes from the corrupted seed within. Society is creating the acceptance, and making it easier to give into temptation......

It is all deliberate and we each have different things that the devil feeds through society, Worldly ways.

It is at its peak, and now is the time to repent and accept Salvation.
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You just have to keep fighting the temptation and keep praying that God will deliver you from it no matter how long it takes. And when you have a moment of weakness and mess up dont think that you have failed and you are doomed. Just simply get back up, repent, and keep fighting. We all have temptations that we face everyday. We all sin from time to time, that doesn't justify it, but its just a fact. Try to develop a relationship with God where you love him more than your sin. A relationship where you want to please him more than your flesh.

As long as you love the Lord and as long as you keep fighting the good fight, you are not doomed no matter how many times you mess up.
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You just have to keep fighting the temptation and keep praying that God will deliver you from it no matter how long it takes. And when you have a moment of weakness and mess up dont think that you have failed and you are doomed. Just simply get back up, repent, and keep fighting. We all have temptations that we face everyday. We all sin from time to time, that doesn't justify it, but its just a fact. Try to develop a relationship with God where you love him more than your sin. A relationship where you want to please him more than your flesh.

As long as you love the Lord and as long as you keep fighting the good fight, you are not doomed no matter how many times you mess up.
Please do not listen to the intolerant community here. There is nothing wrong with being gay. Nothing. It is the way that God made you.
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Please do not listen to the intolerant community here. There is nothing wrong with being gay. Nothing. It is the way that God made you.
One major problem with that....its not what God says.
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I think what you are trying to decide is if temptation will cause you to go to Hell. No, it won't. Everyone who's ever lived has been tempted at one point, including Jesus. However, if we act on our temptations, then yes we sin. Every sin can cause you to go to Hell. Yet, at the same time, every sin, except one can be forgiven by Christ, and that is blaspheming the Holy Spirit. The way we are forgiven is by asking Christ to forgive us of sins and save us. Once we are saved, we are forgiven for our sins, completely and forever. (Understand, this does not give us leeway to continue to sin.)

Once we are saved, we free from the powers of Sin, that means, we no longer have to sin, but instead, can run to God for help. When we have temptations that relate to things from our past, it does not mean that we are demon possessed. Instead, it's simply Satan trying to attack us, to cause us to stumble. One of the greatest founders of the Christian Faith, Paul, even had to fight sin:

"13 Has then what is good become death to me? Certainly not! But sin, that it might appear sin, was producing death in me through what is good, so that sin through the commandment might become exceedingly sinful. 14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15 For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do. 16 If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good. 17 But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. 19 For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. 20 Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me." Romans 7:13-20

The way we conquer him is by letting Christ battle him through us. In other words, let God take over our lives. How we do this is by getting into God's Word. Feeling our minds up with things that are Holy: "Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things" Philippians 4:8

So, chances are, Satan will throw homosexuality up in your face all your life. However, over time, it will be easier and easier to resist the temptations, as long as you fight it in Christ. It's just like an alcoholic. At first, they struggle with not drinking, but over the years, it becomes easier. However, if they let themselves slip even a little, then they are right back where they started.

I hope this helps.
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So, chances are, Satan will throw homosexuality up in your face all your life. However, over time, it will be easier and easier to resist the temptations, as long as you fight it in Christ. It's just like an alcoholic. At first, they struggle with not drinking, but over the years, it becomes easier. However, if they let themselves slip even a little, then they are right back where they started.

I hope this helps.
This is very true
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One major problem with that....its not what God says.

There's a lot of things that are in the bible in which you don't follow.

Marrying a divorced woman is adultery. (Matthew 5:32)

Sell everything and give it to the poor. (Luke 12:33)

Don't save money. (Matthew 6:19-20)

Don't become wealthy. (Mark 10:21-25)

If someone steals from you, don't try to get it back. (Luke 6:30)

If you lose a lawsuit, give more than the judgment. (Matthew 5:40)

If anyone asks you for anything, give it to them without question. (Matthew 5:42)

If you do something wrong with your eye or hand, cut/pluck it off (Matthew 5:29-30, in a sexual context).

etc.
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This battle has to do with thoughts, if you cut off the thought you cut off the temptation and the sin. He needs to practice a strict christian discipline called "Watchfulness" aka "Sobriety" aka "Guarding of the Heart". The Greek word for this is called "Nepsis".

Here are some quotes about what watchfullness is:

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Am i doomed because i cant help be gay?

i know this is a tricky one but suppose i cant change how i feel about men and dont stop having lustfull thoughts BUT i stay single my hole life and never act on my temptations will i get to heaven?

iv been struggleing for 7 years and i have my ups and downs some times i feel im doing well then i slip right back into my old ways. i feel doomed, because how i was brought up and the way i was born doesn't leave any chance for me to be straight i feel im into deep and i can never change.

so i gess i will burn i hell for my sin.......... doesint seem fair when iv cryed out for gods help so meeny times and tryed every thing i can to change but i cant beat this thing.

maby god doesn't love every one? i meen there are a lot of people in my shoes heading striaght for hell and with no chance of turning around..... doomed right from birth
I don't know if you will get this message, but I hope and pray you know God is waiting for you to repent, 2 Peter 3-9, stop your sinning before Him, and seek His mercy. You cannot continue in unrepentant sin and expect to go to heaven, people here are telling you God forgives all sin and He does, but He also says the soul who sins shall die, Eze 18-20.
The word is clear, no such thing as once saved always saved, you must repent, stop your sin, read 2 Cor 7-10-11, stop listening to those in the apostate church, and make that free will choice to please and obey God over your flesh. I pray God will lead you into all truth!
1Co 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor abusers, nor homosexuals,
1Co 6:10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
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Hang in there man!

Remember.... resist temptation. Satan will never give up so it is up to you to fight it.

Also, realize that we all fall short of sins. Some may suffer from sexual sins, and others may have other weaknesses. We all sin, and we all struggle. You aren't alone. As Christians we are all a family and are here to help aothers along the way.

If times get tough, read scripture. Meditate, pray. Stay busy. No matter what the issue is.

Phillipians 4:6-7
6 do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. 7 And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

James 4:6-10
6 But he gives more grace. Therefore it says, “God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble.” 7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 8 Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. 9 Be wretched and mourn and weep. Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to gloom. 10 Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will exalt you.
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No, do not take this attitude, you have to care what Almighty Yahweh God thinks!

Do not seek comfort in other sinners views, repent and ask for the strength to overcome this.

Yeshua our Saviour is our King, he is not a free pass to "be who you are" that is not what we should do, we be what the Almighty Yahweh wants us to be. This behaviour comes from the corrupted seed within. Society is creating the acceptance, and making it easier to give into temptation......

It is all deliberate and we each have different things that the devil feeds through society, Worldly ways.

It is at its peak, and now is the time to repent and accept Salvation.

Well that's your opinion. I however am more accepting of others and what they believe in or do with their own lives. Who am I to say he can or cannot be gay?
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All sin is equal, the fact that homosexuality gets the special attention it does sort of surprises me. As long as you repent of your actions, and attempt to change. God will always forgive you.
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Am i doomed because i cant help be gay?

i know this is a tricky one but suppose i cant change how i feel about men and dont stop having lustfull thoughts BUT i stay single my hole life and never act on my temptations will i get to heaven?

iv been struggleing for 7 years and i have my ups and downs some times i feel im doing well then i slip right back into my old ways. i feel doomed, because how i was brought up and the way i was born doesn't leave any chance for me to be straight i feel im into deep and i can never change.

so i gess i will burn i hell for my sin.......... doesint seem fair when iv cryed out for gods help so meeny times and tryed every thing i can to change but i cant beat this thing.

maby god doesn't love every one? i meen there are a lot of people in my shoes heading striaght for hell and with no chance of turning around..... doomed right from birth
<Here> is a video that should help a lot.

This man will explain a lot of his past ,and maybe it will relate to you.
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YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT DOOMED DUDE GOD LOVES YOU JUST GO WITH THE SPIRIT AND THANKS FOR NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THE POPULATION PROBLEM ALTHOUGH THEY NEED TO GET A WORK ON THAT TEST TUBE TECHNOLOGY BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS. ANYWAY, THERE IS NO HELL HERE IN HEAVEN THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND IN YOUR HEART DUDE FOLLOW YOUR HEART AND BE CAREFULY.
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[quote=Sweetbird;640690 THANKS FOR NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THE POPULATION PROBLEM.[/QUOTE]

I agree with what you said for the most part, but what I disagree with is the fact that the population control is good.
If the population is controlled, that means less of a possibility for one to enter the Kingdom or to even spread the gospel to those who do not know the love of Jesus Christ. That means that more than one human soul could get a chance to be with Christ when the time comes.
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You're not doomed because you can't help being gay. God doesn't hate gay people; it's homosexuality (and when it's promoted as right or okay in churches) that God hates. Your issue of not being able to help being gay is one that I wish there was more knowledge on I guess, because there are gray areas in these kinds of things.
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true dat dawg. like help me drag a few more dimensions in here will ya so we have more space for this party.[


quote=lydever91;641159]I agree with what you said for the most part, but what I disagree with is the fact that the population control is good.
If the population is controlled, that means less of a possibility for one to enter the Kingdom or to even spread the gospel to those who do not know the love of Jesus Christ. That means that more than one human soul could get a chance to be with Christ when the time comes.[/quote]
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