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Am i doomed because i cant help be gay?

i know this is a tricky one but suppose i cant change how i feel about men and dont stop having lustfull thoughts BUT i stay single my hole life and never act on my temptations will i get to heaven?

iv been struggleing for 7 years and i have my ups and downs some times i feel im doing well then i slip right back into my old ways. i feel doomed, because how i was brought up and the way i was born doesn't leave any chance for me to be straight i feel im into deep and i can never change.

so i gess i will burn i hell for my sin.......... doesint seem fair when iv cryed out for gods help so meeny times and tryed every thing i can to change but i cant beat this thing.

maby god doesn't love every one? i meen there are a lot of people in my shoes heading striaght for hell and with no chance of turning around..... doomed right from birth
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Everyone is sinful and has difficulty giving up 'pet sins.' Those are the ones we really love that we mistakenly think define who we are. They don't define who we are... God does. We are all born sinful but through Christ we can overcome.

My suggestion is focus on school and learning how to speak English and be less obsessed with sex. Pray to God about this sin and take His response seriously.
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I don't think you're doomed. Its like any other sin. If you commit a sin, repent and God will forgive you. All sins offend God. Having gay feelings is not a sin, but the act is what offends God. Forgiveness is for all sins (except blasphemy of the Holy Spirit). Even murder is forgiveable. Show God that you are doing your best to please Him and you will be saved, just like anyone else.
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Lord, deliver him from these wrong thoughts.Guard his mind and fill it with heavenly thoughts.
Turn his situation around. and let him minister to those that were in his shoes IN JESUS NAME .amen
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The bible says for there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, for the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set us free from the law of SIN and DEATH! (Romans 8: 1-2) Bro, strengthen yourself with the word of God everyday and seek His face, let His will be done in you and He shall make you a PURE bride!!!!
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None of us can earn our salvation, if anyone says they dont sin they deceive themselves.........when you consider God is perfect, as soon as you get up from repenting for sin you've fallen short of His perfection.

Anybody, whether they're gay/straight/a murderer/ a priest, whatever, our only hope is trusting in Jesus confessing our sins and repenting.
I lied the other week, it might not seem like a major sin, but the Bible says all liers have their part in the lake of fire, so my only hope is Jesus.

Nothing is impossible with God, therefore God can change anyones desire
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As it has been said, it's the act that God doesn't like. We all have disciplines, heterosexuals fight lust as you may, alcoholics abstain from alcohol, and as you should, many homosexuals live a life abstaining from Gay sex.
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No, Timbo, you aren't doomed. none of us are perfect, and we all have impure thoughts from time to time. That's why Jesus came to die for us! When he died on the cross, he took the punishment for all of our sins, so that we could be forgiven. If you have accepted Jesus Christ as your personal savior, then YOU WILL NOT BURN IN HELL! When you accept Jesus' free gift of salvation, it is a blood contract that cannot be broken, no matter what you do (except possibly blaspheme the Holy Spirit, but that's another story). Don't worry about being good enough to get into heaven on your own, because none of us are, not even the Pope :P The important thing is that you aren't acting out on the urges when they come. It isn't a sin to be tempted; it's only a sin to give in to temptation, and God doesn't allow us to be tempted beyond what we can bear. However, If you have already accepted Jesus' free gift of salvation and would like some additional God-help on this issue, I strongly recommend asking The Lord to fill you with his Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit of God (also known as the "comforter") will be happy to enter your life and help bolster your spiritual walk, and all you need to do is invite Him in! Feel free to PM me if you have questions.....All the best to you, I'll be praying!
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The posts above me pretty much sum up what I was going to say. But as long as you're repenting every time you fall, you are probably saved. If you're not repenting, I would question your salvation (I won't say you are saved or aren't saved, because that's between you and God. But I think you are saved).

What does it mean to repent? Ask for forgiveness and turn away from the sin immediately and not having any intentions going back to the sin. Does that mean you will never commit that sin again? No. I've repented many times from a particular sin but I know I can overcome it with God's open hand. Just indulge yourself with Bible studies and encouraging people.

If you think you've never been saved, or if you are saved but have questions, feel free to PM me. I'm very open minded about this subject and won't judge or condemn you.

Keep your head up bro.
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One of my godfathers is gay. He tries and struggles with it, and sometimes he falls. But he keeps trying and knows that the Lord is always willing to offer you forgiveness if you're earnestly trying. I have other struggles of my own that seem impossible to overcome, but I keep trying. The Lord looks at our hearts and sees our desire not to sin and will credit us for our struggles.
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My heart and prays go to you timbo. You must know that you are not doomed. You can be free from your thoughts if you accept Jesus in your heart and have faith in Him.Remember we ALL are invited to be in Heaven with Him, but you have to surrender yourself to Him.
Some things are impossible for us, but for God nothing is impossible. When you have the Spirit, you have the fruit of the Spirit and this fulfills all your needs . Don't lose your faith and ask Him to come to you and take this burden off of you. You have to stop trying to accomplish this by yourself, and ask Jesus to do it, He will be glad to.
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Am i doomed because i cant help be gay?

i know this is a tricky one but suppose i cant change how i feel about men and dont stop having lustfull thoughts BUT i stay single my hole life and never act on my temptations will i get to heaven?

iv been struggleing for 7 years and i have my ups and downs some times i feel im doing well then i slip right back into my old ways. i feel doomed, because how i was brought up and the way i was born doesn't leave any chance for me to be straight i feel im into deep and i can never change.

so i gess i will burn i hell for my sin.......... doesint seem fair when iv cryed out for gods help so meeny times and tryed every thing i can to change but i cant beat this thing.

maby god doesn't love every one? i meen there are a lot of people in my shoes heading striaght for hell and with no chance of turning around..... doomed right from birth
My friend, if you have no control, then you need deliverance. It is an evil Spirit. Do you desire to be delivered? What is lust if it is not what we desire that tempts us?

It is indeed an evil Spirit from hell to offend you into hell. Jesus will deliver you, just ask him to. You say you can't help it, and that is true if you have given yourself over to it, but Jesus can make it all go away. Even the desires too.

May Jesus bless you.
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I disagree that Timbo's trials are caused by an evil spirit, and I say that after praying about the possibility. The main question for Timbo is "have you accepted Jesus Christ as your personal savior?" If you haven't, then you need to (I am not implying that you aren't saved already, but you didn't post enough info for me to know for sure). If you have already accepted Jesus, then stop worrying about being doomed, because you are now a child of God, and he loves you and wants the best for you. Please don't leave us hanging like this, Timbo, we love you and want you to fulfill the amazing plan that God has for your life. Please post or PM, I'm starting to worry about you.
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I think you should live your life without hating yourself, being gay is not wrong. God just wants you to be who you are.

God is Love, Not Hate.
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I think that YOU WILL REALLY BE DOOMED IF YOU DON'T STOP THINKING ABOUT YOU BEING DOOMED..LOL
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i know this is a tricky one but suppose i cant change how i feel about men and dont stop having lustfull thoughts BUT i stay single my hole life and never act on my temptations will i get to heaven?

iv been struggleing for 7 years and i have my ups and downs some times i feel im doing well then i slip right back into my old ways. i feel doomed, because how i was brought up and the way i was born doesn't leave any chance for me to be straight i feel im into deep and i can never change.
Tim, I have something to say that no one else has said. There are people who believe, and many churches too, that homosexuality is NOT sin. No where in the New Testament does Jesus Himself condemn the sin. It is either Old Testament law (which has been done away with in Christ) or Paul's opinion. Many scholors are now even saying that Paul didn't write all the epistles, but some of his pupils did, such as Tiimothy. So what you have may not even be Paul's words.

And if Paul did write Romans (which many agree he did) if you read the passage in the first chapter closely, it refers to people who gave up the natural use of the other sex, meaning, they were heterosexuals trying to be homosexuals. The Bible talks bout it as a choice. It doesn't talk about those who are homosexual be tendedency.

Jesus doesn't condemn homosexuality but He does condemn divorce. In my personal eyes, divorce is the greater sin.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still struggling with weather the above is the truth or not. But it makes since to me.

Does that help?

But I also agree with what everyone else said. The Lord is near to you, if you call upon Him.
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Am i doomed because i cant help be gay?

i know this is a tricky one but suppose i cant change how i feel about men and dont stop having lustfull thoughts BUT i stay single my hole life and never act on my temptations will i get to heaven?

iv been struggleing for 7 years and i have my ups and downs some times i feel im doing well then i slip right back into my old ways. i feel doomed, because how i was brought up and the way i was born doesn't leave any chance for me to be straight i feel im into deep and i can never change.

so i gess i will burn i hell for my sin.......... doesint seem fair when iv cryed out for gods help so meeny times and tryed every thing i can to change but i cant beat this thing.

maby god doesn't love every one? i meen there are a lot of people in my shoes heading striaght for hell and with no chance of turning around..... doomed right from birth
You're not doomed and God loves everyone, but hates the sin. I believe homosexuality is a stronghold and they are very hard to break. Luckily thanks be to God that there's no condemnation for those in Christ. Being gay is not going to send you to hell, but no trusting in Christ will.(: God bless you!
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Here are a couple of videos from a man of God who the Lord has set apart for this work, in specific:

Can You Be Gay & Christian?










I hope these can help at all...


There are many people who have escaped from homosexuality. "Passion 4 Christ Movement" (The Passion for Christ Movement ? What are You Passionate For?) is another ministry who has a very strong ministry and message of love and transformation to homosexuals -- many of them, themselves, are former homosexuals.

God loves you; that is proven by His giving His only Son to save you from your sins, like the rest of us.
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As it has been said, it's the act that God doesn't like. We all have disciplines, heterosexuals fight lust as you may, alcoholics abstain from alcohol, and as you should, many homosexuals live a life abstaining from Gay sex.

like he said, when an alcoholic abstains from drinking he may have not had a drink for years but he is still an alcoholic. doesnt mean hes sinning. so my advice to you is to just abstain from these gay activities. it may be hard but God never said the Christian life would be easy.
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You are right you can't change ur thoughts. Only God can. You need to really know Him. Instead of asking Him to change ur thoughts, ask Him to change ur heart. Pray and ask God to reveal Himself to u. But u have to be willing to pay the price and give up ur life (not physically) and follow Him.
Maybe this will help:

Nathanael Flock: Out of the Closet, Into the Light - CBN TV - Video

May God have mercy on you!
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