eVOLUTION IS IT DISAPROVED ?

[ada]

Judaim is occupied science also called as arrested or occupied DEVELOPMENT,
cause no one dears to say a word against them hidden behind forces!!

In fact evolution theory is established by jews and their money.

[RushBreeze]

Originally Posted by ada

Judaim is occupied science also called as arrested or occupied DEVELOPMENT,
cause no one dears to say a word against them hidden behind forces!!

In fact evolution theory is established by jews and their money.

Woah, This is incredibly offensive, as well as unfounded. Please keep your anti-Semitic views to yourself

[ada]

Originally Posted by RushBreeze

Woah, This is incredibly offensive, as well as unfounded. Please keep your anti-Semitic views to yourself

Yes i know your feeling.
But it is true!!

[TJ2001173]

Originally Posted by RushBreeze

I personally believe that evolution is no more then a debunked theory with way too many holes to hold any kind of water. This is due in part to scripture being very clear how things happen and the scientific knowledge i have gained through listening and learning from Ian Juby.
I have been very lucky to have worked with him on several occasions as he brought his travelling creation museum and spoke at a Bible camp i frequently work at. He is an incredibly wise, and learned man with a passion to see the truth. He has a series of DVD's that are super informative and I would encourage everyone to pick them up. But he is also aware that money is tight for a lot of people so he has also posted the complete series on YouTube for people to watch for free!

I encourage every one, creationist, evolutionist, gap theorists, an those still seeking to check out what he has to say.

Ian's personal website: Welcome to Ian Juby's Home Page
Ian's YouTube page: wazooloo's Channel - YouTube

It is dificult to even contemplate the existance of evolution especially from a christian perspective as this in itself makes evolution critiqued with too much religious bias. What is quite remarkable is the fact those who support creationism are often those who are really qualified - or whom may have a quasi qualification. I am a christian, and no matter what, whether evolution has occured or not is just not important. What is rather pathetic is how lay person christians just believe everything they hear....and make themselves look stupid against modern science. i do not have a background in science for that matter.

[paul241159]

Why is it a problem

[TannerFairless]

Dude that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Before you spout off nonsense educate your self. Evolution does not say we evolved from monkeys. Rather we came from a subspecies that (in simple terms) branched off into two different species, one becoming what we know to be apes, and the other what we know to be humans. Now I do not believe in evolution, but I will say this, when a Christian starts a rant about how theres no way we came from monkeys I cant help but shake my head. The reason people dont listen to us is because we literally know nothing we focus only on God and the word (some not even that) and we dont educate ourselves in the world so that when someone asks this we would have an answer instead of making ourselves look like fools. Instead of asking why are monkeys still here (which by the way anyone can answer that question) why not say this. In order for there to be a beginning there must be an end, which means there must be time. Time is not just something we made up. If there was no time we would never be born nor would we die, we would just be. Now with that said, the evolutionary theory is missing its beginning. In order for there to be a beginning, and im not just talking about the earth. Im talking about the smallest little atom that started it all, there had to be a beginning to that little atom. Science cannot explain time. According to the bible God is not in time. God had no beginning, and He has no end. Now that is very hard for us to comprehend because we only know time. Its like describing water to an alien on mars who has never heard, seen, tasted, touched, or smelled water. That is why I believe in Creation because in order for time to exist I believe there had to have been a creation.

[RushBreeze]

Originally Posted by TJ2001173

It is dificult to even contemplate the existance of evolution especially from a christian perspective as this in itself makes evolution critiqued with too much religious bias. What is quite remarkable is the fact those who support creationism are often those who are really qualified - or whom may have a quasi qualification. I am a christian, and no matter what, whether evolution has occured or not is just not important. What is rather pathetic is how lay person christians just believe everything they hear....and make themselves look stupid against modern science. i do not have a background in science for that matter.

I am very careful when I speak to non-believers about why I believe in Creation vs Evolution. I know enough from what I have learned, and from what I have read to be comfortable in what I believe. I am however not a Scientist, and while I try to retain as many facts as possible to support my Creationist position I will be the first one to admit I dont know it all, and gladly point them towards the people who do. I don't just regurgitate the information I hear, (something Mr Juby told our camp staff and kids so many times) its not useful for anyone, I try hard to look into the claims made by all Creation scientists. To have a vacant, someone with a degree said it must make it right is useless, makes Creationist Christians no more knowledgable in debate then the Evolutionist.

I do believe that evolution is an important matter for the Christian community, whether it happened or not. The bible doesn't make room for billions for years or the macro-evolution from one species to another. Micro-evolution, or adaptation is a visible natural process that we have and can continue to observe, the same cannot be said for Macro-evolution.

[chips1024]

Exodus 20:11
11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Command straight from God... now you decide if you want to follow what has been written, or follow your own understanding.

[kewl42]

well, when you think about it, it makes sense.... how species have evolved over the years. moreover, the universe is expanding. all other galaxies are all moving away from one origin... no one knows where that is, but we have been able to track the movement of the galaxies. it looks something like the fragments of a grenade, to simplify it a little... this points to the big bang theory (not the t.v. show). if you are talking about earth, and its evolution, well.... there is pretty solid evidenc linking us to chimpanzees. we are, after all, just distand cousins of them. we share about 4%
DNA with them. If you ask me there is some pretty strong evidence pointing to evolution, and not much disproving it.

[Dogma]

I am sorry guys, there is so much evidence supporting the theory of evolution that even if we had no fossils left from strata at all, evolution would still be the prevailing theory for the complexity of life among the scientific/ scholarly community.

But there is good news: belief in God and evolution are not incompatible whatsoever. Evolution makes absolutely no claims as to how life originated (see a-biogenisis), just how it developed over the course of billions of years. There are many evolutionary biologists that consider themselves Christian. In fact, the founder of the Human Genome Project was a devout Christian himself who found it to the greater glory of God to learn about the vehicle in which he used to produce complex life on Earth.

Again, I'm sorry - it would behoove many of you to have more open mindsets on this particular topic if you are looking to have meaningful and intellectual discourse.


Dogma

[Saul_Durian]

Originally Posted by Dogma

I am sorry guys, there is so much evidence supporting the theory of evolution that even if we had no fossils left from strata at all, evolution would still be the prevailing theory for the complexity of life among the scientific/ scholarly community.

But there is good news: belief in God and evolution are not incompatible whatsoever. Evolution makes absolutely no claims as to how life originated (see a-biogenisis), just how it developed over the course of billions of years. There are many evolutionary biologists that consider themselves Christian. In fact, the founder of the Human Genome Project was a devout Christian himself who found it to the greater glory of God to learn about the vehicle in which he used to produce complex life on Earth.

Again, I'm sorry - it would behoove many of you to have more open mindsets on this particular topic if you are looking to have meaningful and intellectual discourse.


Dogma

I wish there was a like button for comments.

[jimmydiggs]

Originally Posted by Dogma

Again, I'm sorry - it would behoove many of you to have more open mindsets on this particular topic if you are looking to have meaningful and intellectual discourse.

That would be a two way street my friend.

[Dogma]

It was not you that I had in mind when I typed that up, Jimmydiggs.

[LewisD]

I for one do believe in evolution, it happens on a microscopic scale everyday (e.g. drug resistant viruses) and to me it makes sense that it would also happen to larger organisms only at a much slower rate.

However, I don't think that it should directly contradict the bible. It just means that the original creation was imperfect. Just as many of us still are today.