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Both sides of this argument speak to me deeply, and I don't think they need to fight. 
I don't think God wants any of us to be sick. 100% healthy is what we are all meant to be.
But in times when we are forgetful of our purpose and our great spiritual potential here on earth, I believe God will test us with sickness to get our attention. To let us know we've forgotten to pay attention to something. So we may see what we can overcome in Him. That's my take on all this.
I don't think medicine is blasphemy and I don't think we're "supposed" to be sick. The medicine just gives us more time, but it doesn't stop the inevitable sickness from getting our attention.
Seriously, our wimpy little meds are no match for God.
I don't think God wants any of us to be sick. 100% healthy is what we are all meant to be.
But in times when we are forgetful of our purpose and our great spiritual potential here on earth, I believe God will test us with sickness to get our attention. To let us know we've forgotten to pay attention to something. So we may see what we can overcome in Him. That's my take on all this.
I don't think medicine is blasphemy and I don't think we're "supposed" to be sick. The medicine just gives us more time, but it doesn't stop the inevitable sickness from getting our attention.
Seriously, our wimpy little meds are no match for God.
H
Both sides of this argument speak to me deeply, and I don't think they need to fight.
I don't think God wants any of us to be sick. 100% healthy is what we are all meant to be.
But in times when we are forgetful of our purpose and our great spiritual potential here on earth, I believe God will test us with sickness to get our attention. To let us know we've forgotten to pay attention to something. So we may see what we can overcome in Him. That's my take on all this.
I don't think medicine is blasphemy and I don't think we're "supposed" to be sick. The medicine just gives us more time, but it doesn't stop the inevitable sickness from getting our attention.
Seriously, our wimpy little meds are no match for God.
I don't think God wants any of us to be sick. 100% healthy is what we are all meant to be.
But in times when we are forgetful of our purpose and our great spiritual potential here on earth, I believe God will test us with sickness to get our attention. To let us know we've forgotten to pay attention to something. So we may see what we can overcome in Him. That's my take on all this.
I don't think medicine is blasphemy and I don't think we're "supposed" to be sick. The medicine just gives us more time, but it doesn't stop the inevitable sickness from getting our attention.
Seriously, our wimpy little meds are no match for God.
Doesn't want you to sin either, but you do. Sickness comes as a result of sin and we all sin.
You're right he does. When you pray he also says no sometimes.
Says who? Ever thought God gave us doctors for a reason?
Refer to this thread, you may find it intresting -- http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/38629-elect.html
God Bless
You're right he does. When you pray he also says no sometimes.
Says who? Ever thought God gave us doctors for a reason?
Refer to this thread, you may find it intresting -- http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/38629-elect.html
God Bless
H
Doesn't want you to sin either, but you do. Sickness comes as a result of sin and we all sin.
You're right he does. When you pray he also says no sometimes.
Says who? Ever thought God gave us doctors for a reason?
Refer to this thread, you may find it intresting -- http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/38629-elect.html
God Bless
You're right he does. When you pray he also says no sometimes.
Says who? Ever thought God gave us doctors for a reason?
Refer to this thread, you may find it intresting -- http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/38629-elect.html
God Bless
K
I hate to say it, but maybe what I said wasn't so harsh. Of course, I shouldn't have assumed anything... I don't recant my apology, though; porn sucks. 'Nuff said.
Me being a guy (I know all guys don't struggle with this, but it's common), I have looked at porn in the past. I hate saying it, and I hate that I did it. But it's there. Am I over it? I'd say yes. It wasn't easy, though, and it's a bugger. Temptation still comes, however, but not as much as it did when I did the deed.
I said what I did because to me it seemed as if you wanted God to just make this all go away. Now, I can understand if you'd want that to happen... If you're really in that much pain, I'm sorry, bro...
But there is truth in the statement, "God helps those who helps themselves."
1st Corinthians 10:13
13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
Maybe that way of escape is just pressing the button to turn of the monitor. Helping yourself in that situation may be just reaching out with your thumb to press the button. Maybe that way of escape is getting rid of the media all together. Helping yourself in that situation may be tossing the media box in the trash. I'm not suggesting you do that, although, if you think it'll help, I'd encourage you to. I'm just trying to paint two extremes for you.
Don't give up! This fight isn't impossible to win! You've already got the Victor of the war inside of you! And with the Victor comes victory
Me being a guy (I know all guys don't struggle with this, but it's common), I have looked at porn in the past. I hate saying it, and I hate that I did it. But it's there. Am I over it? I'd say yes. It wasn't easy, though, and it's a bugger. Temptation still comes, however, but not as much as it did when I did the deed.
I said what I did because to me it seemed as if you wanted God to just make this all go away. Now, I can understand if you'd want that to happen... If you're really in that much pain, I'm sorry, bro...
But there is truth in the statement, "God helps those who helps themselves."
1st Corinthians 10:13
13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
Maybe that way of escape is just pressing the button to turn of the monitor. Helping yourself in that situation may be just reaching out with your thumb to press the button. Maybe that way of escape is getting rid of the media all together. Helping yourself in that situation may be tossing the media box in the trash. I'm not suggesting you do that, although, if you think it'll help, I'd encourage you to. I'm just trying to paint two extremes for you.
Don't give up! This fight isn't impossible to win! You've already got the Victor of the war inside of you! And with the Victor comes victory
H
I hate to say it, but maybe what I said wasn't so harsh. Of course, I shouldn't have assumed anything... I don't recant my apology, though; porn sucks. 'Nuff said.
Me being a guy (I know all guys don't struggle with this, but it's common), I have looked at porn in the past. I hate saying it, and I hate that I did it. But it's there. Am I over it? I'd say yes. It wasn't easy, though, and it's a bugger. Temptation still comes, however, but not as much as it did when I did the deed.
I said what I did because to me it seemed as if you wanted God to just make this all go away. Now, I can understand if you'd want that to happen... If you're really in that much pain, I'm sorry, bro...
But there is truth in the statement, "God helps those who helps themselves."
1st Corinthians 10:13
13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
Maybe that way of escape is just pressing the button to turn of the monitor. Helping yourself in that situation may be just reaching out with your thumb to press the button. Maybe that way of escape is getting rid of the media all together. Helping yourself in that situation may be tossing the media box in the trash. I'm not suggesting you do that, although, if you think it'll help, I'd encourage you to. I'm just trying to paint two extremes for you.
Don't give up! This fight isn't impossible to win! You've already got the Victor of the war inside of you! And with the Victor comes victory
Me being a guy (I know all guys don't struggle with this, but it's common), I have looked at porn in the past. I hate saying it, and I hate that I did it. But it's there. Am I over it? I'd say yes. It wasn't easy, though, and it's a bugger. Temptation still comes, however, but not as much as it did when I did the deed.
I said what I did because to me it seemed as if you wanted God to just make this all go away. Now, I can understand if you'd want that to happen... If you're really in that much pain, I'm sorry, bro...
But there is truth in the statement, "God helps those who helps themselves."
1st Corinthians 10:13
13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
Maybe that way of escape is just pressing the button to turn of the monitor. Helping yourself in that situation may be just reaching out with your thumb to press the button. Maybe that way of escape is getting rid of the media all together. Helping yourself in that situation may be tossing the media box in the trash. I'm not suggesting you do that, although, if you think it'll help, I'd encourage you to. I'm just trying to paint two extremes for you.
Don't give up! This fight isn't impossible to win! You've already got the Victor of the war inside of you! And with the Victor comes victory
Taking the medicine when sick could just as easily be God's will and plan. That is a baseless statement I am afraid :/
Let's just look at this here...
Everyone sins. Sickness comes from sin. You get sick you take or don't take medicine, it doesn't matter.
God doesn't want you to be sick you say? He doesn't want you to sin either.
God Bless
Let's just look at this here...
Everyone sins. Sickness comes from sin. You get sick you take or don't take medicine, it doesn't matter.
God doesn't want you to be sick you say? He doesn't want you to sin either.
God Bless
H
Taking the medicine when sick could just as easily be God's will and plan. That is a baseless statement I am afraid :/
Let's just look at this here...
Everyone sins. Sickness comes from sin. You get sick you take or don't take medicine, it doesn't matter.
God doesn't want you to be sick you say? He doesn't want you to sin either.
God Bless
Let's just look at this here...
Everyone sins. Sickness comes from sin. You get sick you take or don't take medicine, it doesn't matter.
God doesn't want you to be sick you say? He doesn't want you to sin either.
God Bless
If God made you sick, then stay sick
and I have read the NT 100's of times. He never told someone he wouldn't heal them.