Abstinence before marriage AFTER a sexual past...

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leeannabanana

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I'm a divorced woman, and am fairly new to the dating world again. I have recently started seeing someone who is also a Christian. Although we haven't talked about it in detail, we both have had active sexual pasts. After 2 years of abstinence, I am starting to realize how hard of a feat it may be.

I need to feel sexually attracted to my partner, so that being said, finally being with someone I really feel connected to.. this may be tough.

What do ya'll do to remain "pure" with your partner. Is there any "boundaries" you do cross? Any tips or advice? When is the "right" time to bring up your beliefs about sex? Right away or once it comes "up"??
 
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Jewliah

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Oh girl I feel your pai!. Do not be alone with him! That should help you most of the time. :)
 

mystdancer50

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Well, for me, should I choose to be courted at any time, it will be known up front where I stand. So...here are a few things:

First of all, I have set the standard for purity now, before I enter any relationship. I know what I am called to, what I am waiting for, and what I am worth. I have great value. I am a princess, a treasure...and so are you! The boundaries are already set for me so if courtship ever knocks on my door, I will not be tempted to cross those lines, as they are firmly established.

Secondly, God has called me to radical purity in a radically impure world. What does this mean? Well, as you will see in my signature below, I live life with purity God's way. It is such a high standard of purity that I have yet to find a Christian that agrees with me. I'm a sort of radical. :)

And I'm glad!

I will never be alone in a courtship situation. I will always have a chaperone. That includes texting, telephone conversations, internet...anything. We will not be alone until our wedding night. :) I'm not going to go into the reasons for this here, nor go into too great of detail, but if you're interested in why, feel free to message me.

I will not hold his hand, hug him, or touch him in any flirtatious or intimate way. I am saving that for when I am fully his and he is fully mine. The first time he will purposefully touch me and I him is when we place the rings on each others fingers. Yet another thing I won't go into detail about here. Truly, my stands are an open book, but, well, I'm not going to throw them out there as food for the fodder, if you know what I mean.

I have no intention of placing this on anyone else. This is what God has called me to. And, before you think me a radical and strict person, consider this: even our most stringent and greatest attempts at purity cannot even come near the purity that is in God and Jesus and Holy Spirit. I am honored to be trusted with such a call. It makes me feel amazingly valuable.

So, there you have it. I will say that sex outside of marriage is sin, no matter what, but I'm sure you know that. So, I agree that you shouldn't be alone, especially since you have not discussed the boundaries as of yet and you have no idea what he considers okay. Take some time with God and decide on your boundaries. What does God want you to do? Lisa Bevere puts it this way: Go as far as you would go if your Father was in the room with you. Now, being a divorced and grown woman, this may not be much hindrance...but go as far as you would go if Jesus were in the room with you...because He is. :) I hope I helped!
 
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Lyndies

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It's not easy, and my experience has been that no matter how much I want to remain pure before I hang out with my guy, once we are alone together and kissing or whatever, the desire to remain pure kind of...becomes hard to remember/doesn't fee as important.

I would bring it up as soon as possible because it's better to get it out in the open than to find yourseLf in a situation where everything gets kind of hazy and you're like, "...Huh? wait, what ARE my boundaries again...??" It happens so easily.

Set rules you both agree to and respect, like not being alone EVER, and not doing more than kissing. I mean, those boundaries are up to you two, but you get my meaning. It's also helped me to get someone I really look up to and trust to keep us both accountable.
 

J0Y

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I am engaged to be married to a man who was previously married. I have never been.

We set clear, strong boundaries and agreed on them. Oddly enough it is him who is the strongest one in the relationship but then I did say that I need him to be strong in this area because I dont know if I am.

We agreed to NOTHING beyond a kiss or two....no pashing. This is ok because it builds on the friendship instead of getting physically focused.

Restricting time alone is a big one. Especially when you are tired as that is often the time when your guard is down.

It is NOT easy.

But so worth it.

PRAY together. Ask God to always provide a way out of temptation because he always does!!! Funny thing is, when my hubby to be and I kiss, often his dog comes and interrupts us!! lol We have to stop to tell him to go away! lol

Honouring God in a lot of areas of our lives is not an easy task. Most things worth doing are not easy though.
 
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Michaela91

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well whatever happens YOU KNOW that you need to stick to your values, thats the most important thing.
I know of a 'conservative womens support group' who talk about this kind of thing on a daily basis. They also have a petition onsite to ban abortions in alot of states.
its worth it to anyone to have a look atleast
http://womenandgod/blogspot.com click on the link atleast give it a try, it helps
 
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as someone who has gone far beyond the limit most christians expose themselves too...staying celibate and thus pure to further sin is of course a very exceptional idea. However having experienced what the world has to offer, i do have personal opinions on what i look for at his point. So its a 50/50. While I totally understand staying pure until marriage I'm not willing to settle for a post-marriage prude....
 

Calmador

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I'd also recommend not being alone by yourself or him, always be in the public... and about shareing the beliefs in staving it for marriage... I imagine he believes it too since his christian. I think this sorta of thing is okay to bring up right away... because it's an important thing in dating. Bringing up the topic would be the only tricky part... or HEY how about you tell your Pastor... and let him come up to both of you... and let him talk about it with both of you... then after he says what he says, which I imagine would be good. Then you can continue talking about it from then, just to make sure he really does accept that kind of thinking.

Also one of the most important things, I think the boundaries is thinking about, lust lust lust... thats when you crossed the boundaries.
 

Elizabeth619

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as someone who has gone far beyond the limit most christians expose themselves too...staying celibate and thus pure to further sin is of course a very exceptional idea. However having experienced what the world has to offer, i do have personal opinions on what i look for at his point. So its a 50/50. While I totally understand staying pure until marriage I'm not willing to settle for a post-marriage prude....

The man I am with and I have decided to wait til marriage. We both agree that SEX is not why we love each other. We will wait. I respect his body and he rspects mine.

Also, from my past I have learned sex ruins my relationships....makes men nuts...


btw, how are you cupcake?
 
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Sose

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I never like do this but it is GOD truth have you ever read where GOD word says who ever marry a devorce women is commiting adultry. does desire of the flesh mean more to us than GOD . we are to blame for what commit we get our selve into. GOD is a GOD of promises have you ever read proverb about the king who went against his promise .can he get away with it. Ezeikle. here thing people like me dont like to accept but is the only truth. you can my a promise and break it but never live. but renew a promise or come back and repent and want forgiveness but never can we break a promise and keep it broken and live with GOD. People say while GOD forgive anything we do right . but here the thing. What is forgiveness. repent (walk away from) want forgiveness (a way to let go. me having to pay you in one way or another, to bring justice to deserve punishment) .HOW can we forever walk away from a promise (unforgiven) and get away with it. I found myself wanting a devorce women trying to ignore what Jesus said about it. But I know where i would end up end. and had to leave and never see her .
 

mystdancer50

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I never like do this but it is GOD truth have you ever read where GOD word says who ever marry a devorce women is commiting adultry. does desire of the flesh mean more to us than GOD . we are to blame for what commit we get our selve into. GOD is a GOD of promises have you ever read proverb about the king who went against his promise .can he get away with it. Ezeikle. here thing people like me dont like to accept but is the only truth. you can my a promise and break it but never live. but renew a promise or come back and repent and want forgiveness but never can we break a promise and keep it broken and live with GOD. People say while GOD forgive anything we do right . but here the thing. What is forgiveness. repent (walk away from) want forgiveness (a way to let go. me having to pay you in one way or another, to bring justice to deserve punishment) .HOW can we forever walk away from a promise (unforgiven) and get away with it. I found myself wanting a devorce women trying to ignore what Jesus said about it. But I know where i would end up end. and had to leave and never see her .
Remember that we are new creations in Christ. So, if a divorced man or woman is a Christian, truly sanctified and justified in Christ, we have absolutely no right whatsoever to judge or condemn them about their past, regardless of their reasons for divorce. Divorced people deserve to be accepted and loved as much as virgins do. It isn't our place to condemn them. I know people that have divorced due to abusive and violent marriages and also due to affairs. I also know people that divorced just because one or the other or both gave up on the marriage.

If you truly love a person, even if they are a person who has been married before and has divorced, you wouldn't judge their circumstances and base your choice on the fear of being considered an adulterer. What I consider this portion of Scripture to mean is a warning to taking marriage lightly, which our culture most assuredly does. People can get divorced by going to Office Depot and picking up a packet of divorce papers they fill out themselves at home, take to the court with both signatures, get notarized, file, and there you have it, instant divorce!

The truly important thing to remember is that repentant people, true Christians, are not bound by the law. If there is someone who had to divorce for whatever reason, they are not second-class citizens and if they have the opportunity to marry again, if God is truly first in both people's lives and in the marriage, then all blessings on them and their marriage. It is a very dangerous place to judge others and oftentimes we can get extremely pious when facing something we do not understand. Remember, God looks on the heart. There have been many successful second marriages and God has blessed and anointed these people, using them in powerful ways.

Just some thoughts...I have never been married or divorced, so I am not coming from a defensive view to protect myself.

Below references were taken from: Divorce & Remarriage

But I say to the unmarried and to the widows: It is good for them if they remain even as I am; but if they cannot exercise self-control, let them marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion. (1 Corinthians 7:8-9)
In this passage, Paul addresses believers who are "unmarried." This would include anyone who is not married, even divorced believers, because this same term is used for a divorced woman in 1 Corinthians 7:11. Therefore, for the unmarried, who lack self-control, Paul tells the church to, "let them marry."

Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be loosed. Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife. But even if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. Nevertheless such will have trouble in the flesh, but I would spare you. (1 Corinthians 7:27-28)
Here Paul clearly declares that a man who is divorced from a wife (i.e. loosed), and then remarries, has not sinned. If he has not sinned, then he has not committed adultery. Therefore, for those who come to Christ in a state of having been divorced (loosed), Scripture gives them the freedom to marry.
How can this be? Jesus said, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery" (Luke 16:18). Yet, Paul says, "let them marry" (1 Corinthians 7:8-9) and "you have not sinned" (1 Corinthians 7:26-28). It seems Paul is contradicting Christ, but he is not; because,
if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new. (2 Corinthian 5:17)
This is true of both males and females (Galatians 3:28). A person who comes to God in truth (Psalm 145:18; Isaiah 55:6-9) has a clean slate with the Lord (Isaiah 1:8; Psalm 51:7; 103:11-13, 17-18). He has died (Galatians 2:20) and his life is hidden with Christ in God (Colossians 3:3). Christ makes him a new creation, and indeed the old things have passed away, and all things have become new (2 Corinthians 5:17). A divorced person who repents and comes to the knowledge of the truth (1 Timothy 2:4) has been given a new start. All things have become new. Therefore, such a man or woman could remarry, in the Lord (1 Corinthians 7:39; 2 Corinthians 6:14), and not be guilty of adultery. The old wicked person has died, and now the person lives anew in Christ (Romans 6:6; Galatians 2:20; 5:24).
 
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astro

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What nonsense : you're trying to be pure and chaste after you had sex with some dude you divorced ?!?!?!? **edited**
Jesus forbids remarriage; and you have mistaken Oprah/DrPhill for the Bible. Good luck with your mutually shared "sexual active past"

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LOVE/PEACE/UNDERSTANDING
 
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mystdancer50

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Wow. Calm down. Your posts were rude and uncalled for. There is never, ever cause to be judgmental and harsh like that to someone, astro. What about your posts were at all Christ-like?