Christianity and Clubbing?

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vanillakay

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Epicnerdheroix said:
Well, personally I've never touched alcohol nor would I ever date a girl who does drink (I do NOT distinguish between casual, social drinking and getting drunk. In my view, one drink is one drink too many), therefore you'll never see me within the four walls of a bar or a club where alcohol is served and consumed by the majority of people in there. More and more women these days enjoy an occasional 'harmless drink' and I find that so discouraging because I find nothing 'harmless' about drinking. I wish more people agreed with me on that.
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Good for you for not drinking! ;)

I somewhat agree and yet disagree wiht you on that matter. I get where your coming from with the one drink isnt harmless. Mostly because , for them, one drink isnt enough. They soon become intoxicated. However it's my persoanl believe that having mybe glass of wine every ne
night with dinner is perfectly ok. Jesus himself drank wine wiht his meals. As long as you dont becoem intoxicated i find no harm in it. Now hard liquor?.. aka.. jack daniels and other brands. NO. thast jsut poisoning yourself. Lol I got off track. Ok sooooo to answers OP question. I htink goign out to mybe dance andhave a drink is ok as long as you dont take it too far. I myself went ot my first club when i turned 21 and i only took a few sips of my alcohol beverage and mostly watched people dance. not that great to me, Just not my scene
 
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Nautilus said:
I don't think you've ever been to an Irish pub. With all the Guinness and Jameson's being passed around I've never seen one without drunks.

Back to the OP, as far as clubs go, I hate them. Not for any religious reasons persay I just don't enjoy being around those people, the drinks are overpriced, and the music is too loud. Give me a nice neighborhood dive bar any day of the week. And no I see absolutely nothing wrong with going to a bar and having a few drinks every now and then.
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It would be nice to have a brother like yourself nearby to hang out and throw down a few pints with every now and then. Keep it real. :)
 
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dashadow

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To be honest, I would be hesitant to go clubbing these days. There are too many crazy people out there.

Some of the "purist" think almost anything fun is a sin. Some don't like music, dancing, drinking, etc. To be fair, there are things that I believe are okay that can become a problem if one isn't careful. As I've mentioned before, I don't really like to drink much outside home. I fear having a little too much and falling prey to those vixens that would take advantage of me.:)

All in all, I think it's better to have friendly home gatherings with those you know and feel safe around. Although, even a house party can get out of control if the guest list isn't strictly enforced. And when it comes to young single folks, it probably rarely is enforced.
 
wisebeardman

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Epicnerdheroix said:
I know my views on alcohol are pretty extreme but I make no apologies. I was raised to reject alcohol in all shapes, sizes, forms, and brands and will continue to do so. Again, I do not distinguish between one drink and drunkenness. I lost a lot of friends when I turned 21 and rejected their offers to take me out for my first drink and I'm prepared to lose many more. Drinking is wrong and I stand by my hard views on it. Thank you and God bless :)
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I can kinda agree. I never liked booze. I cant stand the smell of the stuff. And I can not deal with drunks.

I believe honestly Drinking turns people stupid and well it does!
 
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True, Nautilius.
I should mention that this pub is a more tame and I don't visit them late at night.

Nautilus said:
I don't think you've ever been to an Irish pub. With all the Guinness and Jameson's being passed around I've never seen one without drunks.
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JGPS

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Tintin said:
Haha! It was! And the music was too loud to talk to your friends. I much prefer a quiet, comfortable Irish pub atmosphere. No cigarette smoke, no drunk people, good food and you can talk with your friends.
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I've had the pleasure of that atmosphere a few times, its rather nice.

I like to have a Barbeque and campfire with close freinds personally. We normally pull out some drinks after the kids go to bed but that is also when we get to the heavy discussion.
 
JesusChica1991

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*sigh* :/ my ex actually tempted me into Jack Daniel...just one sip..but I broke up with him soon-after. I do not judge at all. But from what I have seen with an alcoholic ex-fiance (who claimed he would quit over and over again), it's not a handsome lifestyle. Alcohol makes you do really stupid things that most of the time you wouldn't do yourself. When my ex drank, he was one of those that would have rages. I told him it bothered me but in his stubbornness, he continued to do so. I knew from the beginning it would never work out but "love" blinded me. I will never date someone who is an alcoholic and as long as I can help it, I will not allow my children to. I would hate for them to experience what I have seen or been through. I do not judge...but from my experience, don't start it. It only opens and consumes a lot of bad patterns in your life and it isn't healthy.
 
wisebeardman

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JesusChica1991 said:
*sigh* :/ my ex actually tempted me into Jack Daniel...just one sip..but I broke up with him soon-after. I do not judge at all. But from what I have seen with an alcoholic ex-fiance (who claimed he would quit over and over again), it's not a handsome lifestyle. Alcohol makes you do really stupid things that most of the time you wouldn't do yourself. When my ex drank, he was one of those that would have rages. I told him it bothered me but in his stubbornness, he continued to do so. I knew from the beginning it would never work out but "love" blinded me. I will never date someone who is an alcoholic and as long as I can help it, I will not allow my children to. I would hate for them to experience what I have seen or been through. I do not judge...but from my experience, don't start it. It only opens and consumes a lot of bad patterns in your life and it isn't healthy.
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yep. booze will turn the smartest person into the biggest idiot.
 
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Tintin

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Yeah, BBQs with friends and/or family are my usual social haunts. That or a meal, some drinks (in moderation) and a couple of boardgames.

JGPS said:
I've had the pleasure of that atmosphere a few times, its rather nice.

I like to have a Barbeque and campfire with close friends personally. We normally pull out some drinks after the kids go to bed but that is also when we get to the heavy discussion.
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JesusChica1991

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wisebeardman said:
yep. booze will turn the smartest person into the biggest idiot.
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Yes it will. Otis Campbell from the Andy Griffith show would tell you the same thing. :/ You can't think clearly when you're under the influence no matter how clear you think you are. I lost the privilege to get to know an aunt due to her being killed by a drunk driver. He only had ONE sip.
 
JGPS

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You know, because it functions to remove peoples inhibitions what someone acts like drunk is often just a reflection of what they're really like deep down.

When most of my freinds drink they generally get really talkative or absurdly generous or very quiet and mellow or they open up about their anxieties or things like that. Not one of them gets belligerent, and the worst of them just get cocky and talk big, but even that is rare.

If your ex became a raging jerk when he drank, he was probably kind of a jerk sober too. Is that assumption wrong?

Most people tend to be followers, and when they drink that part of them is ripe for exploiting so one bad but influential person among them will provoke them to all kinds of stupidity. Without that destructive element though you really only have to worry about how you'll feel in the morning.
 
JGPS

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Tintin said:
Yeah, BBQs with friends and/or family are my usual social haunts. That or a meal, some drinks (in moderation) and a couple of boardgames.
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I have a wall of board-games in my back ports. I like to collect unusual and out of print ones. My last drinking get together wound up ending in playing Strategy and Settlers of Catan till 2:30 in the morning. The time before that it was Clue of all things.
 
wisebeardman

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JesusChica1991 said:
Yes it will. Otis Campbell from the Andy Griffith show would tell you the same thing. :/ You can't think clearly when you're under the influence no matter how clear you think you are. I lost the privilege to get to know an aunt due to her being killed by a drunk driver. He only had ONE sip.
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you know i has seen so many DUI police vids. guy is trashed drunk. but they always claim they only had a sip or 1 beer.
 
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Wasn't one of Jesus's miracles to make water into wine *for people to drink it* though? Would Jesus have immorally given them a mild poison? (no) -what's your approach to those passages?
 
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JGPS said:
I thought it was going to be an anti-Canada thread about clubbing baby seals. :(
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I thought it was going to be a clubbing canadians, not seals, thread. Imagine my disappointment.... *sigh.... :(
 
Nautilus

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JesusChica1991 said:
Yes it will. Otis Campbell from the Andy Griffith show would tell you the same thing. :/ You can't think clearly when you're under the influence no matter how clear you think you are. I lost the privilege to get to know an aunt due to her being killed by a drunk driver. He only had ONE sip.
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i feel sorry for your aunt and your family. But Immore wanting to address the one sip. Thats an out and out lie. One sip simply doesnt contain enough for an adult or even a teen to get drunk on.
 
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Tintin

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When people say they had one sip (and they go crazy) they're flat out lying. It's just not possible.

JGPS, awesome, mate. Settlers of Catan is one of my favourites. I've played some Cities and Knights too. That said, the games always seem to go MUCH longer than they suggest on the side of the box. I bought Munchkin recently but I haven't played it yet. Why do all the good games have to have so many rules?
 
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Tintin said:
When people say they had one sip (and they go crazy) they're flat out lying. It's just not possible.

JGPS, awesome, mate. Settlers of Catan is one of my favourites. I've played some Cities and Knights too. That said, the games always seem to go MUCH longer than they suggest on the side of the box. I bought Munchkin recently but I haven't played it yet. Why do all the good games have to have so many rules?
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If someone has an alcohol allergy one sip can have a major effect on their system, its not the same as being drunk, but it does impair them significantly. That's probably worth noting.



Catan is quite popular. Quite a few of my favourite games have simple elegance though. I'm teaching my daughter to play Mancala, which is great because of all the counting. But its not boring like snakes and laters or kids games like that.

As for times, my games of Settlers tend to wrap in the 20-30+10 per extra player time-span. I only play Monopoly by the original rule-set which has an economy of attrition that wraps itself after 2 hours so I never have those all night games of that. Monopoly has a finer economic balance than most people know, if you add any unintended monies into the economy (like free parking money) the game can go on indefinitely. In reality its not that long a game when everyone is losing money as intended. Even my games of Axis and Allies tend to wrap in 4-6 hours (as intended) but thats because we generally have at least one aggressive player that either makes or breaks the game. I can see how that game could really strech if everyone was turtleing down.
 
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