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2liveisChrist

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Hey guys this about a really really good friend of mine and I want to give her advice on her situation but I'm going to kind of put it out there first and get some different view points from you all.

So here is goes. This friend of mine comes from a Christian family and very strict on tradition. It all started back In 2009 when her life was all about partying, she had just finish graduating from high school so all she wanted was to just let loose. A phew weeks after graduating she and her cousin went on a holiday to Victoria , met up with some relatives and stayed there for about 4 months. She ended up working with her relatives who owned grape farms. In this period of time she met somebody abit older than her, he approached her at church and asked for her number, but she kind of felt a little uncomfortable that he was a little bit older. This girl was very attractive and very very kind, so she thought for a split second why not. They started talking, met up at after work parties and got really close. Not knowing that this older guy had been married not yet divorced and has 2 children. Cut the story short. A year later she fell pregnant her parents made her consider marriage, he got his divorce papers before she got pregnant and then things started to get rocky. During her pregnancy she experienced heart ache after ache with this guy, all the lies and made up stories later finding out that after she gave birth to her beautiful boy that he had been sleeping with another girl. They officially ended things which last for about 2 years, in those 2 years this friend of mine went through the agony of a broken heart, she loved this guys with all her heart and respected him she also very excitingly gave her life to Christ and had never been this happy and free ever. She started dating other guys and a lot of guys started to court her. She didn't make any sexual contact with any of these guys because she let God down already and she was not willing to let him down again. She would pray to God to bring to her the one he wants her to be with. So Just last month she receives a call from her sons father weeping to her on the phone apologising what he had put her through. He came to see his son and my friend who is now 21 years of age and is a very very wise mature young lady. He got on his knees at the airport and cried for her forgiveness. One thing he said to her was, I did you wrong because I looked at you as my God that I couldn't live without you that you had to be with me 24 hours every single day but God took you away from me so I realise that He is my God he is the one that I need the 24 hours every single day of my life. This moment she is mind blank, he is in tears and crying out Lord forgive me for turning my back on you, but all I ask is for a second chance to prove to my friend that he is a changed man. Now this guy was very jealous of my friend because she is young and beautiful, but what he doesn't understand is she her upbringing was hard strict biblical rules that she knew a d listened to but failed to do. So I'm saying here is he now worthy of a second chance? Or she just setting herself up for another heartbreak by the same guy. Now that he's given his life back to God do you think these two are meant to be together? Might I add he did divorce his wife because she was sexually involved with other men while married to him, but his first wife had divorced to marry him. And we all know that God holds the covenant with the first person you marry. To my understanding and please correct me if she divorced to marry this guy God is still holding her covenant to her fist husband even if she remarried, which she did but also destroyed the marriage by the same reason. so is it okay for him to remarry?
 

T_Laurich

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I am in no position to judge you friend. But I can't give any advice with out doing so... So please forgive me and take it with a grain of salt...

First off your friend is not innocent... I don't think she got pregnant by talking to this man... She slowly started grabbing a little more sin each time... Why she didn't find out this man had a family??? I will not know but at this point the past is the past...

The bible does say forgive a person every time they wrong you... Matthew 6:14-15

So yes she should forgive him, and yes she in my opinion should permit her son to see him... I personally come from a divorced family and I can tell you, nothing is harder than being a child caught between two parents who hate each other...

But adultery is grounds for divorce, and they were never married at any time (to my knowledge).

So should she have to get married??? I have never studied this but I would say no... For one reason alone, if they would be unequally yolked... This man the way you depicted him seems like a narcissist, so she should be careful, yes forgive him and trust he is a new man in Christ.

But see if he truly is a changed man, find out why he divorced the other woman, find out why he needs to be sexually active with multiple woman... This is not a over night fixed and done... This is something that takes time, he wont truly know why he did everything he did right off the bat... But over time he will...

Pray and ask the Holy Spirit for guidance...

I wish I could give better advice...
 
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Mammachickadee

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Hey guys this about a really really good friend of mine and I want to give her advice on her situation but I'm going to kind of put it out there first and get some different view points from you all.

So here is goes. This friend of mine comes from a Christian family and very strict on tradition. It all started back In 2009 when her life was all about partying, she had just finish graduating from high school so all she wanted was to just let loose. A phew weeks after graduating she and her cousin went on a holiday to Victoria , met up with some relatives and stayed there for about 4 months. She ended up working with her relatives who owned grape farms. In this period of time she met somebody abit older than her, he approached her at church and asked for her number, but she kind of felt a little uncomfortable that he was a little bit older. This girl was very attractive and very very kind, so she thought for a split second why not. They started talking, met up at after work parties and got really close. Not knowing that this older guy had been married not yet divorced and has 2 children. Cut the story short. A year later she fell pregnant her parents made her consider marriage, he got his divorce papers before she got pregnant and then things started to get rocky. During her pregnancy she experienced heart ache after ache with this guy, all the lies and made up stories later finding out that after she gave birth to her beautiful boy that he had been sleeping with another girl. They officially ended things which last for about 2 years, in those 2 years this friend of mine went through the agony of a broken heart, she loved this guys with all her heart and respected him she also very excitingly gave her life to Christ and had never been this happy and free ever. She started dating other guys and a lot of guys started to court her. She didn't make any sexual contact with any of these guys because she let God down already and she was not willing to let him down again. She would pray to God to bring to her the one he wants her to be with. So Just last month she receives a call from her sons father weeping to her on the phone apologising what he had put her through. He came to see his son and my friend who is now 21 years of age and is a very very wise mature young lady. He got on his knees at the airport and cried for her forgiveness. One thing he said to her was, I did you wrong because I looked at you as my God that I couldn't live without you that you had to be with me 24 hours every single day but God took you away from me so I realise that He is my God he is the one that I need the 24 hours every single day of my life. This moment she is mind blank, he is in tears and crying out Lord forgive me for turning my back on you, but all I ask is for a second chance to prove to my friend that he is a changed man. Now this guy was very jealous of my friend because she is young and beautiful, but what he doesn't understand is she her upbringing was hard strict biblical rules that she knew a d listened to but failed to do. So I'm saying here is he now worthy of a second chance? Or she just setting herself up for another heartbreak by the same guy. Now that he's given his life back to God do you think these two are meant to be together? Might I add he did divorce his wife because she was sexually involved with other men while married to him, but his first wife had divorced to marry him. And we all know that God holds the covenant with the first person you marry. To my understanding and please correct me if she divorced to marry this guy God is still holding her covenant to her fist husband even if she remarried, which she did but also destroyed the marriage by the same reason. so is it okay for him to remarry?
Oooo this is an easy one and yet a hard one because we do not feel her conviction or her consternation. Some things come to mind automatically as a Christian that my own life has held the exception to, so... lol (starting with the idea that marrying a man after you had sexual relations with him can mean basing your relationship on a lot of junk with God saving it later).
1. God has to be the head of her relationship as well as his relationship and their relationship.
2. She should have a second innocence before getting dragged through any relationship, let alone one with a man who she has a history with. God can redeem her mind unto that second innocence when she throws herself upon Him and relies on Him completely.
3. Letting hormones and the romance of any moment drag her heart into something with ANY man, let alone this man, is making an idol of her desires... thus making her judge by her will and not the Biblical instruction for finding/recognizing God's intended for her.
4. Jumping into a relationship with him after he already knows every inch of her will be torture for both of them... but not exclusively impossible to be healed from. A relationship with a man that began in immorality will take a lifetime of reliance on God and extra care.

HOWEVER: :) (I love that word)
Should she feel led by God to marry that man after God creates a relationship of true love and obedience between them (as happened with my husband and I), she will experience the same blessings of marriage minus a lot of the disappointments/misconceptions that are common between couples that never knew each other physically before marriage. Already knowing the worst of a man before marrying him can be a good thing as long as she doesn't hold it over him at any point in their life together.
She can be before God innocent again, and may choose to look for a new relationship. It all must be based on God's leading (which requires leaning on Him in mind and heart).
 
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2liveisChrist

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No they didn't marry but I am referring to his first wife. She was married before she married this guy. They divorced because his first wife was sexually active with many other men. Make sense now?