The size of Noah's Ark

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mar09

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Cancelled, ok.
 

mar09

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This is totally photo shopped. When I was a kid I had a marble that looked just like this...

Are you sure?
 
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torus

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A very interesting discussion. I like it. It stimulates thinking, thank you. May I say this reminds me of the admonition of the Bible to not focus on genealogies, etc. Well this is not exactly a genealogy. I think I may assume, that most, if not all of you know more than I do. However, I respectfully say that to focus on Christ, His saving work, and what/ who He is to us, Biblically, is more profitable.
 
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Tintin

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A very interesting discussion. I like it. It stimulates thinking, thank you. May I say this reminds me of the admonition of the Bible to not focus on genealogies, etc. Well this is not exactly a genealogy. I think I may assume, that most, if not all of you know more than I do. However, I respectfully say that to focus on Christ, His saving work, and what/ who He is to us, Biblically, is more profitable.
When the Bible mentions not to focus on genealogies, it means in terms of using genealogies to one-up each other in the faith eg. I'm descended from Abraham, the father of the Jewish people. But using the genealogies to argue for the historicity of God's Word is paramount.
 

maxwel

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Here’s what I meant to say....

Each Christian has his own measure of information. I do not question the work of the Holy Spirit, for His ways are above my ways. Each Christian learns what he should know, as the Holy Spirit leads him.

That's how God has chosen to reveal His Truth. Look at all the denominations. If you look at Christianity as a big Pie, and see all the denominations as slices in the pie, you will find that God's Truth is in the whole pie, and that each slice teaches only part of God's Truth.

Why? Because ONLY those who have Faith, not knowledge, can enter the Kingdom of God. The complexity of views of the various denominations assure that we must come to God by Faith alone, no matter the denomination.

God bless


Well.... we do seem to have a few "tiny" problems.

Wrong Premises:

1. Nowhere in scripture are we told to view Christianity as a "big pie."

2. Nowhere in scripture are we told to consider different theological views (denominations) as "slices in the pie".

3. Nowhere in scripture are we told that we find God's truth by lumping all theological views together (looking at the "whole pie")

4. Nowhere in scripture are we told that each theological view (denomination) contains a "part" of God's truth.


Conclusions:

1. This is a lovely theory... and it's very interesting... but it just isn't in the Bible.
Feel free to look... it just isn't in there.


2. Parts of the theory violate simple, basic logic.
There is NO reason to logically believe differing theological views "necessarily" contain some prescribed piece of "object truth".
They may or may not.
It is not necessitated logically.
Logically: Any given religious view may be true, or may be false, or may contain some "portion" of truth... but none of this is necessitated by the "mere existence" of differing views.
That fact that differing view EXIST does not necessitate the veracity of ANY of them.

This is all just patently illogical at the basest level.


3. Some parts of the theory are clearly inconsistent with scripture.
- In the scripture, God NEVER tells man to go and assess all the different views on Christianity, and add them all together, like pieces of a pie, to try and arrive at the "whole truth".
- Nothing even remotely close to this is ever stated in scripture.
- In Scripture, the way to arrive at "truth" is clearly given, over and over, in Old Testament and New Testament... we arrive at truth from studying the scripture. Period. We do NOT try to arrive at the truth by adding all the differing views together.
- I'll reiterate... according to scripture, we do NOT arrive at "truth" by adding all the differing views together.
- This theory is anti-biblical, and it is CLEARLY anti-biblical.

Feel free to hold this view... but it's a view which is contrary to scripture.... and which is CLEARLY contrary to scripture.


4. I could go on and on, but this is just silly. These theories violate both principles of scripture, and principles of basic logic.
If someone else wants to continue picking it apart, then feel free.
It's just too silly to mess with.


Seve,
I'm not going to debate, or contradict all of your ideas on different things, as I haven't read everything you've written.
We may or may not agree on other things.
But your "theories" which I mention above...well... those particular points just don't hold up to simple logic... they just collapse under their own weight.

I sincerely hope you'll review some of these theories, and considering realigning them with scriptural principles.
 

Fenner

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Hey Maxwell welcome back!!