believer and non-believer relationship.. what do you think?

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sheltooth

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Many said that a believer must have a only have a relationship with a believer too.. no comment about it.. but what would you say,a believer has fallen for a non-believer?...let them or cut them?...

LET THEM??.. question is will this conflict the verse in the bible:
[h=3]2 Corinthians 6:14 = do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?[/h][h=3]1 Corinthians 15:33 = Do not be deceived: “Bad company ruins good morals.”[/h]CUT THEM???.. question is how could then the believer introduce God to the non-believer he/she loved in order to love the Lord too or the believer will say ( If you love an unbeliever enough to marry him/her, then God loves them enough for you to save them for God. Its our duty to bring them to God, To show them God's love that dwells in us-for them).

hummm? which is?
 
maxwel

maxwel

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The solution here is often difficult to do, but it's very easy to understand.

We have two choices:
1. Obey scripture (God), and DO NOT become unequally yoked
2. Or listen to human reasoning, and become unequally yoked.

There are only two choices... listen to God, or listen to human reasoning.

We all must choose, daily, which of these we will listen to.


If however the believer is already IN a relationship with an unbeliever, then the believer will have to make some serious and difficult decisions in order to stay right with God. I would recommend some pastoral counseling, in order to deal with this situation effectively, but also lovingly. Ultimately, if the unbeliever will not listen to the gospel, and has no desire to accept Christ, then the believer will have to leave the relationship in order to stay right with God. It is best, and safest, not to get into this kind of relationship to start with... but sometimes we make mistakes, and sometimes life is just more complicated than we'd like it to be.

God Bless,
Max
 
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sheltooth

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Amen to that maxwel !!
 
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Mammachickadee

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sheltooth said:
Many said that a believer must have a only have a relationship with a believer too.. no comment about it.. but what would you say,a believer has fallen for a non-believer?...let them or cut them?...

LET THEM??.. question is will this conflict the verse in the bible:
2 Corinthians 6:14 = do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?

1 Corinthians 15:33 = Do not be deceived: “Bad company ruins good morals.”

CUT THEM???.. question is how could then the believer introduce God to the non-believer he/she loved in order to love the Lord too or the believer will say ( If you love an unbeliever enough to marry him/her, then God loves them enough for you to save them for God. Its our duty to bring them to God, To show them God's love that dwells in us-for them).

hummm? which is?
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Interesting though. Since the "unequally yolked" statement in the Bible was not just concerning marriage but also business partnerships, should not a person discriminate against someone else in business because of their religion? Just a thought....
It is ill advised to marry someone of a different faith because of the many conflicts that can potentially arise. It amazes me, though, how many Christian marriages fall apart BECAUSE they are of the same faith but don't live consistently. I applaud the numerous relationships in the world that last in spite of major differences. The Bible also speaks of God's grace to an unbelieving spouse because of the relationship to their believing spouse. Likewise, history shows that ANY PERSON who does not live with the mind of Christ will suffer consequences. Also, the rain will fall equally on the just and the unjust. If one makes the decision to marry that person who is not of the same faith, however, be rest assured that the day will come when your difference of opinion (depending on the individual religions represented) will cause issues.
 
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BrittanyJones

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If you love an unbeliever enough to marry him/her, then God loves them enough for you to save them for God. Its our duty to bring them to God, To show them God's love that dwells in us-for them).

hummm? which is?

Force their choice of whether to accept Christ or not? We are all given free will to choose, some do others do not.
 
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7seven7

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For me personally, I fell in love with my girl's relationship with Christ and her heart before the rest of the stuff I love about her. But if I liked a girl that I could see God working with, who was not yet a believer, then I would not hold back from getting into a relationship with her. Because indeed, when I was still not a believer, a non judgemental partner who believed would've pushed me over the line of believing a lot sooner. And I think that God lives in a lot of people who don't say " I believe " as we'll. I am much more attracted to a girl's heart than to what comes from her mouth.
 
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seekeroftheword

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I had been in that same kind of relationship and did not work out. I tried hard to introduce him to our faith, but he stood firm on his belief of non-believing and having his free will intact; again another debate on losing one's freewill and religion). To this day, I'm still figuring out the answer to that query. How? :(
 
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IamJill

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Been through that and it didn't work out. The pastor who visits my family before told me (just when the relationship between me and my unbeliever ex-boyfriend started)that it will only end up hurting me and she was right. God is not stopping us from having fun He just stops us from having pain. Get the lesson from the people who already went through it, Experiencing pain yourself is no fun at all.
 
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Jemuel

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i think it is the motive behind it....we can reach out for the unbelievers but the motive must be clear...." compassion for the lost souls " eros love must be set apart from what the will of GOD is...A righteous GOD makes His grace available to the wicked... The issue is having a relationship with unbelievers....as a believer who is thy Father...it is the Almighty ever present and everlasting GOD....as a non believer? who is the father.. it is the father of all lies..the devil...when a believer and a non believer joins in marriage regardless of the motives behind it...can satan and GOD be in laws (mgbalae)....the issue lies with the ability of the other to bring another unto JESUS feet...... simple lng.....INC and born again christians....sa doctrine pa lng iba na paano pa sila mgsasama..kaya mo ba mg Iglesia....kasi mahal mo sya.........or kaya mo iwan si LORD kasi mahal mo sya na kabilang sa INC....ang pagpapasiya ay nasa iyo....you want to please the LORD..easy let us obey....He desires obedience rather than sacrifice....

GOD BLESS


sheltooth said:
Many said that a believer must have a only have a relationship with a believer too.. no comment about it.. but what would you say,a believer has fallen for a non-believer?...let them or cut them?...

LET THEM??.. question is will this conflict the verse in the bible:
2 Corinthians 6:14 = do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?

1 Corinthians 15:33 = Do not be deceived: “Bad company ruins good morals.”

CUT THEM???.. question is how could then the believer introduce God to the non-believer he/she loved in order to love the Lord too or the believer will say ( If you love an unbeliever enough to marry him/her, then God loves them enough for you to save them for God. Its our duty to bring them to God, To show them God's love that dwells in us-for them).

hummm? which is?
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Jordache

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It's NOT our job to bring them to God. God does the drawing. We can either participate or not. But if we don't then there will be someone else. This is a huge rationalization with the undercurrents of "I have to save this person because I'm their only hope." You think to highly of yourself and not highly enough of God.
 
mystdancer50

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For me, the issues that will arise from being unequally yoked are just not worth it. I have said it before, but one of the things that is going to be the most attractive in my relationship with my husband, should it be God's will that I marry, is the fact that he gets it when I talk about God, about the revelations and corrections, that he gets it when I confess struggles, that he prays with me and for me, that we can study God's word together, grow in Christ together, know the Lord richer and more intimately together, and that when I say, "God said", he won't look at me like I'm hearing random voices in my head. :)
 
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Psalm23

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sheltooth said:
Many said that a believer must have a only have a relationship with a believer too.. no comment about it.. but what would you say,a believer has fallen for a non-believer?...let them or cut them?...

LET THEM??.. question is will this conflict the verse in the bible:
2 Corinthians 6:14 = do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?

1 Corinthians 15:33 = Do not be deceived: “Bad company ruins good morals.”

CUT THEM???.. question is how could then the believer introduce God to the non-believer he/she loved in order to love the Lord too or the believer will say ( If you love an unbeliever enough to marry him/her, then God loves them enough for you to save them for God. Its our duty to bring them to God, To show them God's love that dwells in us-for them).

hummm? which is?
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There is always a risk bro. Though many have successfully won their spouses to Christ, but none of them said it's that easy. They paid a great deal. Many also was unable to make it and gone out of the fellowship of the believers. One of our pastors was married with a back slider but because she was certain to receive a Word from the Lord, she took the risk. They have now 2 young boys and her husband is now a great help to her in many ways in the ministry. One of our worship leaders married an unbeliever, now she's struggling a lot and cannot stand anymore, though both of them are attending church since after their marriage. My say is, it depends on the person how she/he could really handle it.
 
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FIRE_of_ELIJAH

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This type of thing is still puzzling me. When I was a young christian, i was innocently convinced after being told that you should only look for believers if you wanted a date with. But there were things way beyond your control and expectations, because there were someone who were having relationship with co-believers but still did not work out.

I think it's not a matter of your choice but it's God's choice or God's will. It's not about looking exclusively for believers whom you marry but it's about seeking God first and foremost and He will reveal His plan for you. I think God doesn't care whether you marry a believer or not. He doesn't look up the present state of that person but He sees the future of that person. Our sunday school teacher married an unbeliever and later on, that person became a spirit filled believer. My sister also married an unbeliever but after 2 years, her husband accepted Christ and now very faithful in serving God.

Seek ye first and He will tell you when it's the right time.
 
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hootowl

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Hi Brittany

I am so sorry I could not disagree with you more ( in the nicest way possible)

Marriage is a big step and what people do not do is sit and talk about the guidelines. To me it is the most important part. Those guidelines should be as strong as your marriage vows.

Discuss your religion if it is so important to you before hand. Then make your mind up if you wish to carry on with the person.

You cannot force anybody to your will and especially into religion.
If you have to change a person then leave them because you obviously do not want to be with them in the first place.

Find a Christian. Your not going to make someone into one it is their will not yours.

Possibly he/she will make your mind up for you and walk. Whatever discuss the issue before hand and do it in depth.

I have things to do on a Sunday I am not sitting in a church. If my husband wants it, up to him but the marriage would not last. Not unless there is a lot of compromise on both sides. I mean a lot.

Think of two horses pulling a cart. One is a farm horse the other a race horse. They walk at different paces
So one horse has to slow his pace the other speed up a little.

The race horse will have to try to be a bit stronger to pull it's weight so work load is equal.

A very big struggle for both yet in their own ways both good horses

Hope this helps

Hoot Owl
 
walkOnWater

walkOnWater

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Never did work for me... so i decided to seek Him 1st and spare myself from getting even more scars... this way, i am getting to know more of my God and myself... and learn to have more faith by trusting that He has everything under His control... and that God has the best plans for me...
 
JCluvsme

JCluvsme

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Life is too difficult , don't make it harder for yourself..

( IF you OBEY GOD, HE will blessed YOU, IF Not..He will punished YOU) Deuteronomy 28

HEHEH....:D
 
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FIRE_of_ELIJAH

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hahaha LoL I guess Lots of folks here victim of the wrong love they chose, either from believers and unbelievers. Ive been there myself before LoL. It was very hard to move on, I knw. Choosing an unbelievers or believers are all the same MESS if it's not God's will.

Yeah, seek ye first and God will do the rest.
 
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loveisu999

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Yes. We need to obey God's Word. Do not be equally yoked with unbelievers.
But at same time, we be careful to go with believers who may cause our spiritual downfall too. May God guide us through the power of the Holy Spirit to give wisdom and discernment.
 
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wanderer

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Simple, God has the best answer. Or have you not ask Him?
 
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iamdanco

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I fell in love with a non-believer and we get married. But nothing change, instead i brought her back to God. Its up to every man/son of God if you will be the one who will let go on His presence and be a part of this world, or hold on and walk with Him for eternity. Ive never doubted for what God can do to my family. The more years to come the more our Spiritual grow. Yes there still a moment were having a conflict, but God always there to fix it. Our obedience to God make our faith more stronger. NO MATTER WHAT ALWAYS BELIEVE ON GOD. I've never give up Christ.I rejoice every single day for what He done to my life. For your quoted verses, everything depend on our decisions, on us. Will you brought them to light or they will bring you to darkness...


God Bless you Bro!
 
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