Magazine uses Sesame Street Characters to Celebrate Marriage Equality Ruling

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Elizabeth619

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Bert and Ernie Cuddle Over Supreme Court Ruling


On the cover of next week’s issue of the magazine, the “Sesame Street” characters are drawn cozily sitting together in front of a TV with Bert’s arm around Ernie, and Ernie leaning on his shoulder. The TV shows an image of the Supreme Court justices in their black robes.

The artist behind the cover, called “Moment of Joy,” is Jack Hunter. He originally submitted the unsolicited image to a Tumblr page, according to the New Yorker’s website.
(Credit: New Yorker)
“It’s amazing to witness how attitudes on gay rights have evolved in my lifetime,” Hunter said, as posted on the New Yorker’s website. “This is great for our kids, a moment we can all celebrate.”
There have long been rumors about the nature of Bert and Ernie’s relationship.
When same-sex marriage was legalized in the state of New York in July 2011, an online petition urged the fictional characters to tie the knot.
The petition gained so much buzz that the Children’s Television Workshop, which produces “Sesame Street,” released a statement saying that Bert and Ernie are “best friends.”
“They were created to teach preschoolers that people can be good friends with those who are very different from themselves,” the 2011 statement said. “Even though they are identified as male characters and possess many human traits and characteristics (as most Sesame Street Muppets do), they remain puppets, and do not have a sexual orientation.”
The magazine refused an interview request but released a statement reading, “The New Yorker thinks the cover speaks for itself.”
“Sesame Street” producers have not commented on the cover, but the image drew a range of reactions online.
The online magazine Slate wrote, “it’s is a terrible way to commemorate a major civil-rights victory for gay and lesbian couples,” mirroring a number of media outlets that noted the production company’s repeated denials that the puppet buddies are intended to be seen as a gay couple.
Not all reaction was negative. The Huffington Post called the New Yorker cover “one of its most awesome covers of all time,” while others reported that the image has in fact been floating around the Web for more than a year.

Bert and Ernie Cuddle Over Supreme Court Ruling - ABC News
 

Elizabeth619

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I personally find this really low down. I don't care if you are for or against the Supreme Court ruling using childrens characters to "celebrate" an issue like this is down right perverted.
 
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i agree...children especially the ages that are watching sesame street should not be thinking about sex or sexual orientation. I think that the fact that someone brought that into this situation did so knowing it would cause a stir and have ppl fighting over something. It was not needed...and the debate shouldn't be focused on sesame street and sexual orientation of puppets but to actually discuss the big issues..instead of being petty and yeah kinda perverted and using children's shows to cause problems..children are supposed to be innocent and sadly in the world we live in that last for less and less time...lets not make that time shorter than it already is...that just my opinion
 

Elizabeth619

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Im just waiting for a photo of sesame street characters at an abortion clinic
 
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You have the right to believe what you want. I personally think that true love can and does take place between same sex couples and this does not diminish in any way their commitment to God. Any person fortunate enough to find someone who loves them for who they are, and as they are, is blessed.

Homosexuality is NOT wrong; it simply is. I am a heterosexual female and my attraction is to males and that is my reality. I will never tell another human being that who they are attracted to and feel a connection with is wrong because it does not reflect my reality.

Sin is an absence of love. A heterosexual person who marries for the sake of a lifestyle (money, power, status) is sinning if they marry the person for convenience and not out of love, that to me is a sin Elizabeth and people do it all the time. THAT is a perversion of love.

It is not my goal to convince you since you have your reasons to believe what you do; I just wanted to point out that while I respect your rights to think what you want, I wholeheartedly disagree with you.

Be blessed,

Lightitbe
 

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Homosexuality is NOT wrong; it simply is. I am a heterosexual female and my attraction is to males and that is my reality. I will never tell another human being that who they are attracted to and feel a connection with is wrong because it does not reflect my reality.Lightitbe
With all due respect Lightitbe I disagree with you. Attraction and connection and the keyword there "feel" isn't what love is in my opinion. Love isn't a feeling. Biblically it states, God loved us so much that he gave his son for us. That wasn't a 'feeling' it was action devotion and sacrifice in my opinion. So many people consider love based on a feeling so when they 'don't feel' that way anymore about another they want to break up or file for divorce when in all reality they have not claimed or understood God's love and therefore cannot return love. Homosexuality IS wrong whether you want to create any justification or belief in your head that it's not is your own prerogative. If you follow the bible and scriptures and the teachings you will see that homosexuality is a sin, like stealing killing, committing adultery but a sin nonetheless. Declaring that it is NOT wrong as you did, is completely throwing the biblical scriptures and word of God out the window. I understand you care for homosexuals and you do not want to show any hate. I agree with you in that regard I do want to show grace and compassion for them and I do my best everyday to do so. But claiming that their lifestyle isn't sinful is something that I will not do because biblically it is so. If you want to discard the bible as a reason why would you not throw out anything else in the bible?

I also disagree with sin as the absence of love. When Jesus carried the sin of us on the cross and he claimed God had forsaken him did God stop loving Jesus? No, he did not. When we sin does God stop loving us? No he does not that would go completely against his nature as God who cannot love us any more and any less he loves me 100% of the time all the time regardless of what I do sin or not. Consider this, when you commit a sin, say you steal or you do something you know is wrong and you are convicted of it in the spirit, you desire to repent and make things right correct? Now what happens if you sin and you do not repent and you do not believe you are sinning? You continue to live in sin, there is no repentance there is no change of heart that is the real problem in homosexuality. There is no acknowledgement of a sin and thus they continue to live in that immoral lifestyle. If you choose to ignore the convictions of the holy spirit, eventually I believe that one's own ignorance and stubbornness to repent causes the convictions to disappear and then you do not feel you are doing anything wrong.

I am not here to bash or belittle or put down anyone who is a homosexual, you could have a tendency of homosexuality, but acting on it and feeling your flesh out of 'love' is a sin, and it is not at all Godly. You may throw whatever justification you have to believe it to make it right in your head, but you know deep down and biblically it is wrong. God made man and woman to complement one another they are the missing pieces of one another they complete each other. They carry on the desire that God had established to go forth and multiply to carry on his will. I understand you desire to see people happy, but what you claim is actually the PERVERSION of love twisting what God desired and turning it into a passion of the flesh.

As I said my desire is not to point fingers or bible bash anyone. I want to be accepting and tolerant of everyone. I do however find it strange that as a Christian you choose to disregard all the biblical evidence against homosexuality.

I hope I did not come off as combative or attacking in any way if so please forgive me.

In Christ,

Mo
 

Elizabeth619

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You have the right to believe what you want. I personally think that true love can and does take place between same sex couples and this does not diminish in any way their commitment to God. Any person fortunate enough to find someone who loves them for who they are, and as they are, is blessed.

Homosexuality is NOT wrong; it simply is. I am a heterosexual female and my attraction is to males and that is my reality. I will never tell another human being that who they are attracted to and feel a connection with is wrong because it does not reflect my reality.

Sin is an absence of love. A heterosexual person who marries for the sake of a lifestyle (money, power, status) is sinning if they marry the person for convenience and not out of love, that to me is a sin Elizabeth and people do it all the time. THAT is a perversion of love.

It is not my goal to convince you since you have your reasons to believe what you do; I just wanted to point out that while I respect your rights to think what you want, I wholeheartedly disagree with you.

Be blessed,

Lightitbe
Did you not even read my view? I never said anything in this thread for or against homosexuality. I was specifically speaking about using children's characters on an educational show was inappropriate. Bert and Ernie or any other childhood character should NEVER be used to support any type of political agenda.
 
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homosexuality is the end of a generation.
we need you to adopt!
maybe an uncle sam poster.

What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
 

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Lightitbe you are sadly mistaken it is a sin it is very wrong and it's an abomination against God. God made
Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. God also destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of this very sin. Have you not read your Bible I think you haven't. Marriage should only be for one man and woman not man and man or woman and woman that is very wrong. You need to get saved because the devil has really messed up your mind, girl.
 

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I personally find this really low down. I don't care if you are for or against the Supreme Court ruling using childrens characters to "celebrate" an issue like this is down right perverted.[/QUOTE

I agree, also it's setting up a stereotype, well if two people of the same sex live together they must be gay. When I was a child I never thought of Bert and and Ernie' s sexuality, they were just Bert and Ernie.
 

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I mean I dont know of anyone who still reads the new yorker much less any children that do. Any effects from one cover will probably be negligible at best.
 
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Im just waiting for a photo of sesame street characters at an abortion clinic
............................ 100 percent sure it will happen. By the way Jim Henson was a sodomite, the man who plays Elmo is a sodomite.
 

Nautilus

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............................ 100 percent sure it will happen. By the way Jim Henson was a sodomite, the man who plays Elmo is a sodomite.
yes kjv everyone is a sodomite to you we get it
 

Elizabeth619

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Apparently the guy who voiced Elmo does have multiple sex offenses against him. Sesame Street did fire him as they should. There is a different man doing Elmo's voice.
 

Elizabeth619

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I mean I dont know of anyone who still reads the new yorker much less any children that do. Any effects from one cover will probably be negligible at best.
You do have a good point here, but I
Do find the intent of it still wrong.
 

Nautilus

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You do have a good point here, but I
Do find the intent of it still wrong.
Well i mean they may be characters from a childrens show, but its also a show we all grew up and thus relate to as well. Kids that young probably wouldnt even understand the cover anyways. To them its probably just two friends on a couch.
 

Elizabeth619

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Well i mean they may be characters from a childrens show, but its also a show we all grew up and thus relate to as well. Kids that young probably wouldnt even understand the cover anyways. To them its probably just two friends on a couch.
I understand what you mean.
I do wonder if there was a picture of Bert and Ernie going to church I'm sure the other side would be outraged.
 

Nautilus

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Im sure people here would still be outraged because of the underlying joke that yes they're gay. Which isn't the case but enough people think it I could see some posters here up in arms 'Oh Gosh! I cant believe they are showing gay puppets in God's House' or something close to that, maybe the catguy calling bert and ernie sodomites and how the church is government owned.
 

Elizabeth619

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Im sure people here would still be outraged because of the underlying joke that yes they're gay. Which isn't the case but enough people think it I could see some posters here up in arms 'Oh Gosh! I cant believe they are showing gay puppets in God's House' or something close to that, maybe the catguy calling bert and ernie sodomites and how the church is government owned.
What's sad is they actually had to make a public announcement years ago that the puppets have no sexuality and they're neither straight nor gay. They aren't going to marry Bert and Ernie but some ate convinced they are. Which is part of the reason I have problem with this. They're trying to make something innocent and sexualize it.
 
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Well it is very difficult for any childs program not to appear to be showing a particular bias towards anything. Look at Kermit and Miss Piggy, that is a completely straight couple with a love interest. Now Sesame street has come out and clearly said that the characters of their show are non-sexual. Why not take a shot at The Muppets for trying to push a 'straight agenda'? I am aware they are different companies.

I think people need to look at these shows and realise the target audience of these shows don't actually understand or delve into the politics. Half the shows I watch as a kid could be condemned, look at pokemon for instance. It gets its fair share of attacks from irrational PETA members saying it encourages animal cruelty. That doesn't make any sense though, considering tons of my friends grew up with animals and Pokemon and displayed no increase in participating in animal harm nor do any studies show any sort of increase. I think these kind of objections have a tendency to blow things out of proportion.