should women submit totaly to their husbands
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God does keep his promises when you obey. My hubby had some bad habits that he had learned from his father. Many times I considered going against him because of this. But in prayer the message that Our Lord gave me was to wait on him. Not an easy thing to do but I waited and obeyed. It took three yrs but the mirical came to his heart. Now my hubby loves me even more ans respects me in a way that I never thought possible. Submiting is never easy, but if you trust in God and your husband honors God and you, in time you will not only see the fruit but the wisdom behind his presepts. God bless, pickles
Wisdomseeker ,you act as if I didnt have any biblical backing for my question,
The answer to yours is No ,definatly Not,But the anwer to mine isnt so easy to answer,for this cause right here>
Num 30:2 If a man vow a vow unto the LORD, or swear an oath to bind his soul with a bond; he shall not break his word, he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth.
Num 30:3 If a woman also vow a vow unto the LORD, and bind herself by a bond, being in her father's house in her youth;
Num 30:4 And her father hear her vow, and her bond wherewith she hath bound her soul, and her father shall hold his peace at her: then all her vows shall stand, and every bond wherewith she hath bound her soul shall stand.
Num 30:5 But if her father disallow her in the day that he heareth; not any of her vows, or of her bonds wherewith she hath bound her soul, shall stand: and the LORD shall forgive her, because her father disallowed her.
Num 30:6 And if she had at all an husband, when she vowed, or uttered ought out of her lips, wherewith she bound her soul;
Num 30:7 And her husband heard it, and held his peace at her in the day that he heard it: then her vows shall stand, and her bonds wherewith she bound her soul shall stand.
Num 30:8 But if her husband disallowed her on the day that he heard it; then he shall make her vow which she vowed, and that which she uttered with her lips, wherewith she bound her soul, of none effect: and the LORD shall forgive her.
Num 30:9 But every vow of a widow, and of her that is divorced, wherewith they have bound their souls, shall stand against her.
Num 30:10 And if she vowed in her husband's house, or bound her soul by a bond with an oath;
Num 30:11 And her husband heard it, and held his peace at her, and disallowed her not: then all her vows shall stand, and every bond wherewith she bound her soul shall stand.
Num 30:12 But if her husband hath utterly made them void on the day he heard them; then whatsoever proceeded out of her lips concerning her vows, or concerning the bond of her soul, shall not stand: her husband hath made them void; and the LORD shall forgive her.
Num 30:13 Every vow, and every binding oath to afflict the soul, her husband may establish it, or her husband may make it void.
Num 30:14 But if her husband altogether hold his peace at her from day to day; then he establisheth all her vows, or all her bonds, which are upon her: he confirmeth them, because he held his peace at her in the day that he heard them.
Num 30:15 But if he shall any ways make them void after that he hath heard them; then he shall bear her iniquity.
Num 30:16 These are the statutes, which the LORD commanded Moses, between a man and his wife, between the father and his daughter, being yet in her youth in her father's house.
Now Note that if a Man vows a vow ,no one can disanull it,He has to stand by his word,But if a Woman vows a vow wheather she is in her fathers house in her youth,or married in her husbands house,she can be loosed frm such a vow.
Now take note of the widows and divorced women and what it said about their vows,
So you see the answer to this question isnt so easy to answer.
So now we have to ask ourselves ,"Does this still stand in this day in time,or days of Grace,after the sacrifice that christ made.
Now lets go to the New Testiment to see what is written there,if anything.
Eph 6:1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
Eph 6:2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise
Eph 6:3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.
so heres what Ive dug up in the new Testiment so far,But its all I can find,
1Co 7:23 Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.
1Co 7:24 Brethren, let every man, wherein he is called, therein abide with God.
1Co 7:25 Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful.
Note Paul is giving His opinion on this, Not Gods commandment.
So Now Ive skipped on down to the subject at hand ,And this is written here>
1Co 7:38 So then he that giveth her in marriage doeth well; but he that giveth her not in marriage doeth better.
1Co 7:39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.
1Co 7:40 But she is happier if she so abide, after my judgment: and I think also that I have the Spirit of God.
So Now you see the reason behind the Question.
The answer to yours is No ,definatly Not,But the anwer to mine isnt so easy to answer,for this cause right here>
Num 30:2 If a man vow a vow unto the LORD, or swear an oath to bind his soul with a bond; he shall not break his word, he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth.
Num 30:3 If a woman also vow a vow unto the LORD, and bind herself by a bond, being in her father's house in her youth;
Num 30:4 And her father hear her vow, and her bond wherewith she hath bound her soul, and her father shall hold his peace at her: then all her vows shall stand, and every bond wherewith she hath bound her soul shall stand.
Num 30:5 But if her father disallow her in the day that he heareth; not any of her vows, or of her bonds wherewith she hath bound her soul, shall stand: and the LORD shall forgive her, because her father disallowed her.
Num 30:6 And if she had at all an husband, when she vowed, or uttered ought out of her lips, wherewith she bound her soul;
Num 30:7 And her husband heard it, and held his peace at her in the day that he heard it: then her vows shall stand, and her bonds wherewith she bound her soul shall stand.
Num 30:8 But if her husband disallowed her on the day that he heard it; then he shall make her vow which she vowed, and that which she uttered with her lips, wherewith she bound her soul, of none effect: and the LORD shall forgive her.
Num 30:9 But every vow of a widow, and of her that is divorced, wherewith they have bound their souls, shall stand against her.
Num 30:10 And if she vowed in her husband's house, or bound her soul by a bond with an oath;
Num 30:11 And her husband heard it, and held his peace at her, and disallowed her not: then all her vows shall stand, and every bond wherewith she bound her soul shall stand.
Num 30:12 But if her husband hath utterly made them void on the day he heard them; then whatsoever proceeded out of her lips concerning her vows, or concerning the bond of her soul, shall not stand: her husband hath made them void; and the LORD shall forgive her.
Num 30:13 Every vow, and every binding oath to afflict the soul, her husband may establish it, or her husband may make it void.
Num 30:14 But if her husband altogether hold his peace at her from day to day; then he establisheth all her vows, or all her bonds, which are upon her: he confirmeth them, because he held his peace at her in the day that he heard them.
Num 30:15 But if he shall any ways make them void after that he hath heard them; then he shall bear her iniquity.
Num 30:16 These are the statutes, which the LORD commanded Moses, between a man and his wife, between the father and his daughter, being yet in her youth in her father's house.
Now Note that if a Man vows a vow ,no one can disanull it,He has to stand by his word,But if a Woman vows a vow wheather she is in her fathers house in her youth,or married in her husbands house,she can be loosed frm such a vow.
Now take note of the widows and divorced women and what it said about their vows,
So you see the answer to this question isnt so easy to answer.
So now we have to ask ourselves ,"Does this still stand in this day in time,or days of Grace,after the sacrifice that christ made.
Now lets go to the New Testiment to see what is written there,if anything.
Eph 6:1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
Eph 6:2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise
Eph 6:3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.
so heres what Ive dug up in the new Testiment so far,But its all I can find,
1Co 7:23 Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.
1Co 7:24 Brethren, let every man, wherein he is called, therein abide with God.
1Co 7:25 Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful.
Note Paul is giving His opinion on this, Not Gods commandment.
So Now Ive skipped on down to the subject at hand ,And this is written here>
1Co 7:38 So then he that giveth her in marriage doeth well; but he that giveth her not in marriage doeth better.
1Co 7:39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.
1Co 7:40 But she is happier if she so abide, after my judgment: and I think also that I have the Spirit of God.
So Now you see the reason behind the Question.
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With my second child, an ultrasound revealed he would be severely handicapped with spina bifida and require extensive expensive treatment and care to survive.
My husband commanded me to abort the baby, saying he could not afford this nor could he face life with such a hardship.
I disobeyed my husband and refused to submit to the abortion. I felt God did not want me to kill the baby.
It cost me my marriage.
The boy is 18 now, in a wheelchair but saved and baptised and an awesome young man. The decision was hard . I believe in submitting to what he wants for dinner, what color he wants the walls painted, or even when he wants sex.
But I will NOT submit to an abortion. If you don't like it, well, talk to God about it. Because I felt like God told me otherwise. In fact I felt God talking very loud to me to not kill the baby.
God bless.
My husband commanded me to abort the baby, saying he could not afford this nor could he face life with such a hardship.
I disobeyed my husband and refused to submit to the abortion. I felt God did not want me to kill the baby.
It cost me my marriage.
The boy is 18 now, in a wheelchair but saved and baptised and an awesome young man. The decision was hard . I believe in submitting to what he wants for dinner, what color he wants the walls painted, or even when he wants sex.
But I will NOT submit to an abortion. If you don't like it, well, talk to God about it. Because I felt like God told me otherwise. In fact I felt God talking very loud to me to not kill the baby.
God bless.
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should you submit to a threesome if your husband has a fantasy? Should you submit to bowing to an idol if your husband wants to erect a buddah statue in your living room?
You know what this is what I think. God created ranks, like the army. Sergeant, corporal, private. Sure my husband is over me (or was before he left) but God is over my husband. If my husband is going against God then God gets to pull RANK.
And in the end, that's between me and God. anything not totally against God is up for submitting to. But there are some times when we should let God pull rank. That's what I think.
You know what this is what I think. God created ranks, like the army. Sergeant, corporal, private. Sure my husband is over me (or was before he left) but God is over my husband. If my husband is going against God then God gets to pull RANK.
And in the end, that's between me and God. anything not totally against God is up for submitting to. But there are some times when we should let God pull rank. That's what I think.
Qout;Wisdomseeker ,you act as if I didnt have any biblical backing for my question,
The answer to yours is No ,definatly Not,But the anwer to mine isnt so easy to answer,for this cause right here>
Peace be to you
When you read the scriture remeber the way things are in heaven not on earth.For there is a new heaven and a new earth.When heaven comes how much are you going to have to change?If i decide to follow alll God ways on earth constantly looking to the ways things are in heaven knowing that females are transformed into like beings as angels.Why oh why would God ask us to submit to a sytem that is being done away with.
isiah;
For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
The way things are in heaven is there is no marriage between male and female.
Mark;And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
gal;
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
There is nether male nore femal in the body of christ and there is no marriage between males and females in heaven.
God is speaking to us about the marrage with Jesus;rom;
For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
We are all called male\female as forsaken woman to God;isiah;
Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed: neither be thou confounded; for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more.For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.For the LORD hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God.
For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee.
Keep your eye on the heavens when you read.
Love a friend in God
The answer to yours is No ,definatly Not,But the anwer to mine isnt so easy to answer,for this cause right here>
Peace be to you
When you read the scriture remeber the way things are in heaven not on earth.For there is a new heaven and a new earth.When heaven comes how much are you going to have to change?If i decide to follow alll God ways on earth constantly looking to the ways things are in heaven knowing that females are transformed into like beings as angels.Why oh why would God ask us to submit to a sytem that is being done away with.
isiah;
For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
The way things are in heaven is there is no marriage between male and female.
Mark;And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
gal;
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
There is nether male nore femal in the body of christ and there is no marriage between males and females in heaven.
God is speaking to us about the marrage with Jesus;rom;
For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
We are all called male\female as forsaken woman to God;isiah;
Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed: neither be thou confounded; for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more.For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.For the LORD hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God.
For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee.
Keep your eye on the heavens when you read.
Love a friend in God
G
Hii evrione, i wanna comment on ur luvly topic. First of all what Roboop said, i think i'M ok wit it. But let me start this way. Do we know dat anytin we call a pblm 2day most times is smthing we'ld been able 2 ovacome jus wit a litle aplication of wisdom? What i'M i saying? There is always a disagreement blw husband & wife most times blc God Himself didn't actualy unite dem 2geda. But if He did, He must always give grace to both parties, first for d man to luv his wife as Jesus loved d Church and gave His life 4 her and also, grace 2 d woman 2 submit 2 her husband as she ought to. So it is not gonna be hard 4 d woman as long as d man is INDEED doing his part. In summary, i mean dat SUBMISSION IS EASY AS LONG AS D LUV IS FLOWING.
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