Strong words from our Savior

[Hizikyah]

When I first took this verse to heart, not read it but really took it to heart, it scared me. I don't mean a little bit, it made pray for understanding, search the Scriptures doubletime, it made me look into the root words, especially the word "iniquity". And since doing that I take this verse particulaly serious. It is something that I think is too often ignored or misused, not looking at all He says in it. Well, I would love to hear your thoughts.

Mattithyah 7:21-23, "Not everyone who says to Me; Teacher! Teacher! will enter into the Kingdom of Yahweh, but only he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day; Teacher! Teacher! Have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and in Your Name performed many wonderful works? But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."

"but only he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven"

Deuteronomy 10:12-13, "And now, O Israyl, what does Yahweh your Father require of you, but to reverence Yahweh your Father by walking in all His ways, by loving Him, by serving Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, By keeping the Laws of Yahweh, with His statutes, which I command you
this day, so that you may be blessed?."

"Have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and in Your
Name performed many wonderful works?"

Do Muslims do things in His Name? Buddists? Hare Krishnas? or Atherist? You get the point
This is a message to us! Followers of or people who claim to be followers of the Messiah.
If you tell me to mow your lawn in a CERTIAN manner, but I do it the way I choose, did I do it your way?

"But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity!"
Iniquity is Word #458 from word #459, Greek Dictionary, Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, meaning not subject to (Yahweh's) Laws, transgressor.

Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices breaking the Law."

Mattithayh 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

We can not enter the Kingdom of Yahweh by the Law alone, but we can not make it by rejecting Yahweh's Law.

Revelation 12:17, "And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went to make war with those who forsook her seed; her seed being those who keep the Laws of Yahweh, AND have the testimony of Yahshua Messiah."

Revelation 14:12, "In this manner are the saints purified--by keeping the Laws of Yahweh, in conformity with the faith in Yahshua Messiah."

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

What are the laws of YHWH?

• Believe in Christ

[The people] said to [Jesus], 'What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?' Jesus answered and said to them, 'This is the work of God, that you believe into him whom he has sent.' John 6:28-29

Therefore, as you received Christ Jesus the Lord [by faith], so walk in him [by faith]. Colossians 2:6​

• Love your neighbor as yourself

A new commandment I give to you: that you love one another. As I have loved you, also you love one another. John 13:34

This is [GOD's] commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. And he that keeps his commandments dwells in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abides in us, by the Spirit which he has given us. 1 John 3:23-24​

For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery, you shall not commit murder, you shall not steal, you shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are summed up in this statement: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does not commit evil against a neighbor, therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. Romans 13:9-10​

Therefore all things whatsoever you would that men should do to you, do you even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. Matthew 7:12​

What are the great commandments of Moses' law?

• Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. Matthew 22:36-40

What does it mean to love GOD with all the heart, soul, and mind?

• For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. 1 John 5:3
• If ye love me, keep my commandments. John 14:15
  
• He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. John 14:21

And what are GOD's commandments?

This is [GOD's] commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1 John 3:23
​

 

[Hizikyah]

On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets

I think you quoted it right there, and I will give an example:

Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices breaking the Law."

dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, these things are not against the 10 commandments, however it's clear people will not be allowed to enter the kingdom of Yahweh for doing them. So this goes back to:

"On these two commandments hang all the law"

Yahshua's 2 GREATEST commands don't abolish the rest, ALL the rest are contained within them.

I know all of Churchanity teaches different, but the Messiah said what He said.

Mattithayh 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

We can not enter the Kingdom of Yahweh by the Law alone, but we can not make it by rejecting Yahweh's Law.

I do have to add all you stated was valid, in accordance with ALL.

 

[Hizikyah]

Even the priestly Laws are still intact = the Levitical priesthood is disbanded, but Yahshua is the High Priest after the order of Melchizedek, He fulfills those Laws now. (Explained in Hebrews, but most people mistake it for "THE LAW"S DONE AWAY!")

The sacraficial Laws are still intact, as us being born nearly 2,000 years after the Sacrifice, needed to accept that blood of the Messiah, if it were done away it would be impossible.

Mattithayh 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

 

[Blain]

Jesus obeyed all the laws while he was on earth, never once did he break them. He is our ultimate example so therefore we are to also try to keep the commandments, however we are not bound to the law as we were before Christ's sacrifice.

 

[reject-tech]

"Not everyone who says to Me; Teacher! Teacher! will enter into the Kingdom of Yahweh, but only he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day; Teacher! Teacher! Have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and in Your Name performed many wonderful works? But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."

"will enter into the Kingdom of Yahweh" is not equal to "go to heaven when you die"
"in that day" is any day that a person is puzzled about what it means to be in the kingdom, how to know, and so on.
"practice iniquity" here is doing the works to get something, instead of because we love. Being the whore of babylon.

It's a mistake for our doctrines take the whole passage, which is about doing things now, jerk one verse out and assign it to a single future day, then jump back in to present tense. Jesus said "that day" because it happens over and over and over, and will continue happening until we get our heart right and enter the kingdom. And the only answer we get from heaven is "depart", until we get our heart right.

The last verse in the chapter even tells us point blank that earthly religious students have this teaching wrong.
Scribes are too busy relying on the words in the book and doing rehearsed works to actually put down the pen and go out and love others and prove the words in the book.

They are strong words from our savior indeed. With authority.

 

[Hizikyah]

"will enter into the Kingdom of Yahweh" is not equal to "go to heaven when you die"
"in that day" is any day that a person is puzzled about what it means to be in the kingdom, how to know, and so on.
"practice iniquity" here is doing the works to get something, instead of because we love. Being the whore of babylon.

It's a mistake for our doctrines take the whole passage, which is about doing things now, jerk one verse out and assign it to a single future day, then jump back in to present tense. Jesus said "that day" because it happens over and over and over, and will continue happening until we get our heart right and enter the kingdom. And the only answer we get from heaven is "depart", until we get our heart right.

The last verse in the chapter even tells us point blank that earthly religious students have this teaching wrong.
Scribes are too busy relying on the words in the book and doing rehearsed works to actually put down the pen and go out and love others.

They are strong words from our savior indeed. With authority.

the Scriptures are clear,

Ecclesasties 9:5, "For the living know that they will die; but the dead do not know anything..."

1 Corinthians 15:52, "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the clast trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we will be changed."

Quote reject tech : ""practice iniquity" here is doing the works to get something, instead of because we love. Being the whore of babylon."

I see you make up your own definitions.

Iniquity is Words #458 and #459, Greek Dictionary, Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, meaning not subject to the Law.

Quote reject tech :"The last verse in the chapter even tells us point blank that earthly religious students have this teaching wrong."

Mattithyah 7:29, "For He taught them as One Who had authority, and not like the scribes."

This last verse tells us what it said, Yahshua taught with authority, the scribes did not.

2 Kepha (Perte) 3:15-16, "And recognize that the longsuffering of Yahweh our Savior is salvation; just as our beloved brother Shaul, in accordance with the wisdom given to him, has written to you, As also in all his letters, speaking in
them about these things, in which are some things hard to be understood, which those who are unlearned and unstable twist, as they also do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction."

 

[letti]

We are perfecting,our walk with Christ everyday we are given another day to live.What would be the need for Christ to mention mercy,and you will be shown the same.Forgive and you to shall be forgiven.ALL fall short of the glory.We are forgiven,so we are to do the same.Lead one who falls in sin, out lovingly.

 

[letti]

Attacks,condemnation are also not abiding in Christ.This is not fruitful.Bear fruit,so Christ can shine in you.

 

[Hizikyah]

Mattithyah 6:14-15, "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will also forgive you; But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."

100% Agree!

However, Attacks?

2 Timothy 4:2-4, "Preach the word Be instant; ready to take your positions in season, out of season. Reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts they will heap to themselves teachers, who will tickle their ears; (telling them what they want to hear). And they will turn away their ears from the truth, and will be turned to fables."

Proverbs 15:10,12, "Discipline is grievous; evil, to him who forsakes the way; he who rejects reproof, correction, will die." "A scorner has no love for one who would reprove him, so he will not go near the wise."

Proverbs 9:8, "Reprove a scoffer, and he will hate you. Rebuke a wise man, and he will love you."

Proverbs 10:17, "He who keeps instruction is in the way of life, but he who refuses reproof goes astray."

 

[letti]

Yes,I also agree.Attacks would be to in your own arrogance have,intent to only cause pain to anybodies heart.Rebuke and truth is different,that is all I mean.I guess anybody needs to be careful in the way they rebuke.This is also, not directly meant for any one person it is meant for all to remember,even myself.

 

[Hizikyah]

I know I can get a bit froggy at times, I just really love Yahweh, Yahshua, and the truths they have provided me. I want to share and fellowship constantly. I feel people are to caugt up in "churchanity" instead of what the Scriptures says and I think like I want to shout the truth from the rooftops kind of thing.

 

[letti]

Yes,all those unwilling to come into the light,will be judged,accordingly,according to the will of GOD.

 

[letti]

The title(christian)and churchanity is useless.I know what you are saying.All who accept, Christ abide in the truth,no lawless have truly accepted Christ. lawless is not truth.

 

[letti]

For the Antichrist, is called the lawless one.

 

[GreenNnice]

Be warned: the church = the bride of Christ.


The derogatory remark , 'churchanity,' I can assure you, hezeguyuh, has NO place in Christianity.

Pray to Him for answers, and, that's sad to hear, if the/a church has not been fruit-giving, following His pruning you attended in the past, but that feeling from church is not true for so many, who found their Saviour so strongly in church.

Be careful what you say and teach, those who teach, Scripture tells us, will be judged more harshly than others.


God bless you, brother, in your exhuberance learning the words of God from His Word, as you worship in Spirit and in Truth

 

[Hizikyah]

I see you attempt at disrespect: "hezeguyuh", especially that is the inly word you "misspelled." Funny guy.

However that does not change the fact the churchanity has twisted the message, and become about other things the truth, im sure nearly everybody on this website can attest to that.

Matththyah 7:13-14, "Enter in through the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many are those who go that way. Because straight is the gate, and narrow is the way which leads to life, and few there are who find it."

 

[Hizikyah]

BUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Ariel82]

When I first took this verse to heart, not read it but really took it to heart, it scared me. I don't mean a little bit,

God normally doesn't "scare" people with scripture. He did not give us a spirit of fear but of love, power and a sound mind....however, there is another spirit that loves making people afraid....

"Have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and in Your
Name performed many wonderful works?"

Do Muslims do things in His Name? Buddists? Hare Krishnas? or Atherist? You get the point
This is a message to us! Followers of or people who claim to be followers of the Messiah.

you mean like the Jewish people who claim to be God's chosen people?

If you tell me to mow your lawn in a CERTIAN manner, but I do it the way I choose, did I do it your way?

did you get the lawn mowed? would you punish your child for doing something their way instead of the way YOU would do it if the end result was the same?

"But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity!"
Iniquity is Word #458 from word #459, Greek Dictionary, Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, meaning not subject to (Yahweh's) Laws, transgressor.

Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices breaking the Law."

Mattithayh 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

We can not enter the Kingdom of Yahweh by the Law alone, but we can not make it by rejecting Yahweh's Law.

Revelation 12:17, "And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went to make war with those who forsook her seed; her seed being those who keep the Laws of Yahweh, AND have the testimony of Yahshua Messiah."

Revelation 14:12, "In this manner are the saints purified--by keeping the Laws of Yahweh, in conformity with the faith in Yahshua Messiah."

now all you have to determine is the answer to the question:

what are God's commandments for His people NOW that Jesus has come and NOW that there is a NEW covenant in place of the OLD that has passed away with the shedding of the blood of a more perfect Lamb?

 

[Hizikyah]

God normally doesn't "scare" people with scripture. He did not give us a spirit of fear but of love, power and a sound mind....however, there is another spirit that loves making people afraid....

I have a moral fear or reespectful fear, which is Scriptual. A fear like, I love my family so dont want to make them upset. Not a fear like, there is a homicidal maniac trying to kick my door down.

you mean like the Jewish people who claim to be God's chosen people?

Its possible Jewish people could be included here but, Yahshua said these people claim to do things in HIS NAME, most Jews follow Judaism and literally hate Yahshua. (you wwould be sick if you read what they say about Him in the talmud, the Talmud is the oral law of Judaism) So I do believe He is talking about people who do things in his Name as He said.

did you get the lawn mowed? would you punish your child for doing something their way instead of the way YOU would do it if the end result was the same?

My point is if Yahshua says love your neighbor (Lev 19:18) I can claim I love him all I want but if I dont do it the way He says to, its not love, its my made up version of "love." And this is a serious thing, as brother and sisters we should hold eaxhother accountable not let eachother go astray.

now all you have to determine is the answer to the question:

what are God's commandments for His people NOW that Jesus has come and NOW that there is a NEW covenant in place of the OLD that has passed away with the shedding of the blood of a more perfect Lamb?

And this is where alot of debate could come in, but i think yahshua made it clear here:

Mattithyah 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."

Tell me can you break any one of these and still be looving your fellow human Yahweh's/Yahshua's way?

LEVITICUS 19:10-18, "You shall not glean your vineyard, nor shall you gather every grape of your vineyard. You shall leave them for the poor and the stranger; I am Yahweh your Father. You shall not steal, nor deal falsely, nor lie one to another. Do not vow falsely with My Name, and so profane the Name of your Father. I am Yahweh. You shall not defraud your neighbor, nor rob him. Do not hold back the wages of a hired man overnight. Do not curse the deaf or put a stumblingblock in front of the blind; but reverence your Father. I am Yahweh. Do not pervert judgment: You shall not show partiality to the poor, nor honor to the person of the great. In righteousness you shall judge your neighbor fairly. You shall not go about tale-bearing or slandering among your people. Do not do anything that endangers your neighbor's life. I am Yahweh. You shall not hate your neighbor in your heart. Rebuke your brother or your sister frankly, so you will not share in his or her guilt. Do not seek revenge nor bear a grudge against one of your own people; but you shall love your neighbor; whether a brother or an enemy, as yourself. I am Yahweh."