Smith Wigglesworth?

[PoxEclipse]

Wigglesworth? Rugglesby? BIGGLESWORTH!

[video=youtube;Izt6-Bb1ZXY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izt6-Bb1ZXY[/video]


Act I

Well do you get the itching to
Trek about the latitudes?
You do?
Well, likely you're a chip off old Sir Rugglesby
Oh, he was quite the sporting sort
Behind his cup of tea he'd snort,
"I'll wager on the line
Ten thousand pounds and five
I'm the only man who'll ever get to hell and come back alive."

Act II

Now in the fall of '49
He skipped across the seven brine
This time looking for a berth in naval history
"Twas never heard nor seen again
Officially presumed as dead
But the words he left behind
Still echo through my mind:
"I'm the only man who'll ever get to hell and come back alive."
He's the only man who'd ever get to hell and come back alive.

So off he went around the world...

Intermission

Act III

Then one night while tripping down the English coast
The moon was whiter than a ghost almost
When I heard a voice yell through a megaphone
And thereupon the midnight sea
A signal lamp signaled me
I could feel my blood run cold
As the message did decode:
"I'm the only man who'll ever get to hell and come back alive."
Well who else could it be
But good old Rugglesby?
He's the only man who'd ever get to hell and come back alive.
Yes he's the only man (he's the only one)
Who's ever gone and been (who's been and gone)
To hell and come back
Hell and come
To hell and come back alive

The End





Birds of a feather?

Smith Wigglesworth's only vedio available - YouTube

Smith Wigglesworth - Stirring Up the Gift - YouTube

Kenneth Copeland retells Smith Wigglesworth raising a man from the dead - YouTube


For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.

But when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks and laid them on the fire, a viper came out because of the heat and fastened itself on his hand. When the natives saw the creature hanging from his hand, they began saying to one another, “Undoubtedly this man is a murderer, and though he has been saved from the sea, justice has not allowed him to live.” However he shook the creature off into the fire and suffered no harm. But they were expecting that he was about to swell up or suddenly fall down dead. But after they had waited a long time and had seen nothing unusual happen to him, they changed their minds and began to say that he was a god.

 

[Cobus]

Ok what Did Jesus say how should we pray, and NO MAN is my teacher of idol. Jesus is my Lord, my Teacher and my Brother. He said in this manner should you pray... OUR FATHER WHOM ART IN HEAVEN... Looks like we do pray up to heaven....

I have seen plenty of false teachers... and if one understands what John said and what God uses to PURIFY THE WHEAT, you inderstand that the baptism with FIRE AND SPIRIT is ONE BAPTISM...

Here is how It works.... When you sift the wheat from the chaff you throw it up into the air and you let the wind carry the lighter shaff off. The wheat that has FRUIT in it is about tem times the weight of the chaff. The weat gets taken to the SHED.. the KOngdom of heavens and the Chaff.... THE OLD MAN IS BURNT IN THE FIRE...

The Wheat is the NEW MAN IN CHRIST GOD MAKES YOU, and the OLD MAN IS THE CHAFF BURNT IN THE FIRE...

ONE BAPTISM... OLD MAN DEING IN FIRE< NEW MAN LIVING IN SPIRIT.... ONE BAPTISM ZONIE....

I think this Whigiesworth guy started in Knysna, a town about 60 km from my town. Today there is much evil in that town, but I heard he was quite a man and of coarse he would not only have fans.... not even Jesus could achieve that, but I did not study or investigate the mans teachings, all I know is we DO PRAY TO HEAVEN, even as sinners...

And the FIRE Baptism I already explained as the Bible teaches... So If the people of God is discribed as Chaff you will understand the FIRE and the SPIRIT baotism is the SAME baptism... The Word of God is explained as Water, Sword, Truth, Son, God, Name, Fire, Gold, Judge, Sanction (one who sanctify) and even Persons and also the FREE-MAKER, RELEASER... So it takes a bit of understanding that the Word of God accomplish and work in many ways... but they all are for TRUTH AND RIGHTEOUSNESS... Oh and the WORD also serve a Teacher, and teacher in doctrine. Also the whip of rebuke, and the Reference for reproofing... Mighty Word of God.,...

Zonie all my opinions and answers are ALL my own, that I learned from that Word of God, From my Lord and Teacher... Christ Jesus. Zonie I will miss Abiding, but I know you loved the man and he was big friend of you... My sincere love to you, may we one day be one as God and Jesus are one... Love you Zonie, and the last words Abiding said to me, were .... Cobus you do not study the Greek as you should, I asked you before study more Greek, then I said to him... Afgaristo ye to poly oreo fagito... which is: thank you for the lovely supper....


Something I learned from Greek friends in Corfu Greece... I have Greek friends, but Abiding never knew that I think... Stay strong my friend and may God be with his family in their pain. Amen!

 

[zone]

Here is how It works.... When you sift the wheat from the chaff you throw it up into the air and you let the wind carry the lighter shaff off. The wheat that has FRUIT in it is about tem times the weight of the chaff. The weat gets taken to the SHED.. the KOngdom of heavens and the Chaff.... THE OLD MAN IS BURNT IN THE FIRE...

Psalm 1:4
Not so the wicked! They are like chaff that the wind blows away.

Matthew 3
11"As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. 12"His winnowing fork is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clear His threshing floor; and He will gather His wheat into the barn, but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

 

[overcomer2]

Yes, he was a man of God.

 

[zone]

he was?
sounds a lot like Todd Bentley.

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A Living Classic
Smith Wigglesworth
(a book review by Mike Wright)

Smith Wigglesworth - A Life Ablaze With The Power Of God, by William Hacking, published by Harrison House, Inc, P.O. Box 35035 Tulsa, Oklahoma, 74153, copyright 1972 (by W. Hacking), 1981, and 1995 by Harrison House.

Smith Wigglesworth - A Book Review of Pentecostal Heresy

 

[jb]

Smith Wigglesworth did not consider himself a "teacher," indeed when he felt that he had got out of his depth with doctrine he referred the person questioning/asking him to his son in law James Salter.

Smith Wigglesworth had a very powerful ministry as an "evangelist" and the ministry of a "prophet." As part of his ministry as an evangelist he had one of the finest healing ministeries of the 20th century with 1000's of healings all over the world, God also raising a number of people from the dead through him.

 

[Elizabeth619]

Smith Wigglesworth did not consider himself a "teacher," indeed when he felt that he had got out of his depth with doctrine he referred the person questioning/asking him to his son in law James Salter.

Smith Wigglesworth had a very powerful ministry as an "evangelist" and the ministry of a "prophet." As part of his ministry as an evangelist he had one of the finest healing ministeries of the 20th century with 1000's of healings all over the world, God also raising a number of people from the dead through him.

If raising the dead you mean someone pretending to be dead and he would go into a room with the door closed with just him and the body and the corpse came back to life then yeah.... He did that a lot. Even to his wife. He was fake.

 

[overcomer2]

I marvel at how many of you know know so much theology, yet men who have come up through the ages. from the 1900's preaching and teaching you know nothing about. AMAZING.

 

[jb]

If raising the dead you mean someone pretending to be dead and he would go into a room with the door closed with just him and the body and the corpse came back to life then yeah.... He did that a lot. Even to his wife. He was fake.

Sister, it's a great pity that your unbelief in the miraculous has blinded your mind to the spiritual reality that God still does these same miracles today, very much like the Sadducees in the time of our Lord who denied that God still did miracles!

Yet the spiritual gifts you deny that exist, you pray for every day, you certainly fulfill Matt 22v23,29!

At the end of the day, you're the one who loses out with such an unbelieving attitude!

Yahweh Shalom

 

[Elizabeth619]

Sister, it's a great pity that your unbelief in the miraculous has blinded your mind to the spiritual reality that God still does these same miracles today, very much like the Sadducees in the time of our Lord who denied that God still did miracles!

Yet the spiritual gifts you deny that exist, you pray for every day, you certainly fulfill Matt 22v23,29!

At the end of the day, you're the one who loses out with such an unbelieving attitude!

Yahweh Shalom

I never said God did not do miracles. I stated Wigglesworth didn't. There is a difference.
I have never denied God or his power. I have never denied Jesus. I deny false teachers. You need to be careful what you accuse.

I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. Rom 16:17-18

“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. Matt 7:15

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Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 1 John 4:1

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[Angela53510]

Read a lot about Smith Wigglesworth when I was a Pentecostal/Charismatic.

I hope that qualifies me to comment.

I do not believe in all his miracles. I have seen too many lies to believe in this man.

I do believe also in the Lord Jesus Christ. I do believe God can do miracles as a result of the prayers of God's people. But not a showman. Sorry, I draw the line at all these so-called famous evangelists who rely on miracles instead of the Word of God and the Holy Spirit to save people. People drawn to the spectacular aren't going to stay long with God, when the going gets tough. That means just slogging through life, and those dark nights of the soul, too!

 

[zone]

Smith Wigglesworth did not consider himself a "teacher," indeed when he felt that he had got out of his depth with doctrine he referred the person questioning/asking him to his son in law James Salter.

Smith Wigglesworth had a very powerful ministry as an "evangelist" and the ministry of a "prophet." As part of his ministry as an evangelist he had one of the finest healing ministeries of the 20th century with 1000's of healings all over the world, God also raising a number of people from the dead through him.

documentation by any chance?

 

[jb]

I never said God did not do miracles. I stated Wigglesworth didn't. There is a difference.
I have never denied God or his power. I have never denied Jesus. I deny false teachers. You need to be careful what you accuse.

I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. Rom 16:17-18

“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. Matt 7:15

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Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 1 John 4:1

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Any time there are ANY discussion on CC about miracles, healing etc, YOU always condemn any person that it is reported that they have been done though by God as fake!

YOU are the one with the problem and it is simply one of UNBELIEF in the miraculous, YOU not only fulfill Matt 22v23,29, BUT also Hebrews chapters 3 & 4!

Is that direct enought for you!

 

[overcomer2]

This was the church age called the Philadelphia Church age. There were so many miracles. My pastor was born in 1933. He himself witnessed breasts growing back from cancer. He saw a nose grow where there was none. He even saw a blind man receive his sight. This church age has no idea the types of miracles that the Lord did to show his people his power. The problem with that church age was even though they were healed, Many left the Lord. My preacher sometimes sees the woman whose nose was healed and she has left the Lord after that amazing and wonderful miracle.

 

[zone]

Any time there are ANY discussion on CC about miracles, healing etc, YOU always condemn any person that it is reported that they have been done though by God as fake!

YOU are the one with the problem and it is simply one of UNBELIEF in the miraculous, YOU not only fulfill Matt 22v23,29, BUT also Hebrews chapters 3 & 4!

Is that direct enought for you!

could you please provide documentation for all the dead raised by Wigglesworth?
does it matter that he taught a boatload of false doctrine?

 

[zone]

This was the church age called the Philadelphia Church age. There were so many miracles. My pastor was born in 1933. He himself witnessed breasts growing back from cancer. He saw a nose grow where there was none. He even saw a blind man receive his sight.

could you provide some documentation of those things?
thank you.

 

[Elizabeth619]

Any time there are ANY discussion on CC about miracles, healing etc, YOU always condemn any person that it is reported that they have been done though by God as fake!

YOU are the one with the problem and it is simply one of UNBELIEF in the miraculous, YOU not only fulfill Matt 22v23,29, BUT also Hebrews chapters 3 & 4!

Is that direct enought for you!

1. Disagreeing isn't condemning. Show me ONE post where I've taken the place of God and condemned anyone.
2. Anytime there are any discussions I do this? Really. I haven't debated this particular subject in months.
3. I left CC for a few months due to all the fighting over such subjects so how could I "condemn" so much?
4. Understand what the unbelief is in Hebrews before you point fingers.

 

[Angela53510]

This was the church age called the Philadelphia Church age. There were so many miracles. My pastor was born in 1933. He himself witnessed breasts growing back from cancer. He saw a nose grow where there was none. He even saw a blind man receive his sight. This church age has no idea the types of miracles that the Lord did to show his people his power. The problem with that church age was even though they were healed, Many left the Lord. My preacher sometimes sees the woman whose nose was healed and she has left the Lord after that amazing and wonderful miracle.

This is exactly what I said in my post.

People who are drawn to the spectacular will not walk with Christ in the long run, when the miracles stop and the crowds are gone. When it comes to the day to day walk, they will not want to read the Bible and pray, esp. if the heavens dry up, as God tends to do as a test to his people.

"But the one who endures to the end will be saved." Matt 24:13

Or as John puts it:

"They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us." 1 John 2:19

They were attracted by the glamour, happy to get healed (assuming this really happened!) but they were not saved.

These supposed miracles do not save a person. That is what is wrong with the whole charismatic movement. Signs and wonders do not hold a person to follow Christ. This is a very shallow attempt at being a Christian and it does not work!

God is the one who saves, not signs and wonders!

 

[overcomer2]

could you provide some documentation of those things?
thank you.

No, either you have the spirit of truth or you don't.

 

[megaman125]

could you provide some documentation of those things?
thank you.

Why should anyone bother? You're not going to change your unbelief about the situation.