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So buildings need a builder, but yet magically life, planets, the universe, etc. don't need builders while maintaining far more complexity than buildings built by man, and you somehow KNOW that this is a fact? I'm sorry, but I don't see any logic in this line of thinking.
Megaman, are you familiar with the astronomical hypotheses on planet and star formation? I am, and they make perfect sense to me. Where do you think the flaw lies in these hypotheses? Why do you think formation of planets and stars cannot happen naturally? I am looking for a solid explanation here, not some whimsical, 'It's not logical' comment.
 
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megaman125

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Megaman, are you familiar with the astronomical hypotheses on planet and star formation? I am, and they make perfect sense to me. Where do you think the flaw lies in these hypotheses? Why do you think formation of planets and stars cannot happen naturally? I am looking for a solid explanation here, not some whimsical, 'It's not logical' comment.
Of course it makes sense to you, because it fits with your world view. Anything in line with your atheism would make sense to you, and you accept it because it fits with atheism.
 
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Of course it makes sense to you, because it fits with your world view. Anything in line with your atheism would make sense to you, and you accept it because it fits with atheism.
Why don't you try answering the questions? The fact that you can't give a straight answer
should cause you to at least about things for a moment. Is your brain closed off to things
that clearly contradict your worldview?
 

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Megaman, are you familiar with the astronomical hypotheses on planet and star formation? I am, and they make perfect sense to me. Where do you think the flaw lies in these hypotheses? Why do you think formation of planets and stars cannot happen naturally? I am looking for a solid explanation here, not some whimsical, 'It's not logical' comment.
a galaxy/solar system spinning into formation in one direction NATURALLY would force all solar systems/ planets to from rotating in the same direction but they don't theres your explanation =D
 

wanderer6059

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o and that comes from the law Conservation of angular momentum
 
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a galaxy/solar system spinning into formation in one direction NATURALLY would force all solar systems/ planets to from rotating in the same direction but they don't theres your explanation =D
I will point out one problem with your explanation and leave you with two questions. First, examine any stream. Though water moves in one direction, eddies themselves can rotate in any direction.

Second, since you have stated that not all solar systems rotate in the correct direction, can you point to one that rotates incorrectly. Can you provide the evidence to back up your claim? Can you point to a galaxy that astronomers say in rotating in the wrong direction?

I will note that all planets in our solar system are moving around the sun in the same direction. There are no exceptions.
 
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megaman125

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Why don't you try answering the questions? The fact that you can't give a straight answer
should cause you to at least about things for a moment. Is your brain closed off to things
that clearly contradict your worldview?
If you don't like how I respond to the questions, then too bad for you. Just because you keep asking them over and over does not mean I'm going to respond with the atheist view that you want to hear. As for me being close minded to Christianity, I openly admit that you have no shot at convincing me of anything else. At least I'm not like the typical atheists that proclaim how great they are for being open minded but then immediately shut out anything that doesn't line up with the atheist view. That's why I'm not playing your little games and you're getting the responses from me that you're getting.

If you want to know why I'm close minded to Christianity, it has nothing to do with your fantasy stories of millions of years that you proclaim as truth. It has to do with this: http://christianchat.com/testimonies/73319-my-journey-having-evil-spirit-cast-out-me.html
 
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If you want to know why I'm close minded to Christianity, it has nothing to do with your fantasy stories of millions of years that you proclaim as truth. It has to do with this: http://christianchat.com/testimonies/73319-my-journey-having-evil-spirit-cast-out-me.html
It seems you still have evil inside you because you play Magic: The Gathering and children's
fantasy games. Magic and Pokemon are from the Devil, Megamaster!

Look at you proselytizing your religion on Gamefaqs.
Christianity- Jesus - Philosophy and Ethics Message Board - Page 10 - GameFAQs
I'm the best duelist on this board. - Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's World Championship 2011: Over the Nexus Message Board for DS - Page 34 - GameFAQs

Speaking of enchantments and sorcery while including "there are no contradictions
in the Bible" in your signature - lol!
mega's chart of favorable/unfavorable matchups - Magic: The Gathering - Duels of the Planeswalkers 2013 Message Board for Xbox 360 - GameFAQs

You're comments on Youtube aren't very well thought out and plus it looks
like you're a fan of shockofgod. No surprise there.

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For instance, you say "And if you think the Bible is wrong, then prove it. Start with Genesis 1:1. Prove to me that God didn't create the universe. You can't."

Megamaster, can you prove the Koran is wrong? No, well it must be true! - shockofgod style!

And Atheism doesn't have to prove it's accurate or correct, it just has to show why theism
doesn't meet the burden of proof.

You also started a thread entitled "I like shooting down Bible contradictions"
over on the Thinking Atheist forums. http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/Thread-I-like-shooting-down-Bible-
contradictions


But you ran away when you realized you couldn't "shoot" them all down.

Now you're on a forum that doesn't challenge you but when someone does you
just dodge questions!
 
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Someone who believes in another religion is deluded. Someone who is atheistic is a fool.

Atheists can't explain these five things.

1. Human affection, and the emptiness without it.
2. Why darkness cannot cast out light.
3. How to map out the entire mind [not brain function] of a human.
4. How you can't bring the dead back to life, through logic and science. (Death is a disease that no man can find the cure through logical means).
5. What actually makes living things live (Something called the "spark" of life, scientists still haven't figured out this)
 
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Someone who believes in another religion is deluded. Someone who is atheistic is a fool.

Atheists can't explain these five things.

1. Human affection, and the emptiness without it.
2. Why darkness cannot cast out light.
3. How to map out the entire mind [not brain function] of a human.
4. How you can't bring the dead back to life, through logic and science. (Death is a disease that no man can find the cure through logical means).
5. What actually makes living things live (Something called the "spark" of life, scientists still haven't figured out this)
Very true. I can't figure those out. But just because I don't know I ain't gonna make the leap of faith and say god did it.
 
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Very true. I can't figure those out. But just because I don't know I ain't gonna make the leap of faith and say god did it.
Is the risk enough to cost you your life? What do you lose exactly by taking that first step, with walls lifted up on all sides?
 
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Someone who believes in another religion is deluded. Someone who is atheistic is a fool.

Atheists can't explain these five things.

1. Human affection, and the emptiness without it.
2. Why darkness cannot cast out light.
3. How to map out the entire mind [not brain function] of a human.
4. How you can't bring the dead back to life, through logic and science. (Death is a disease that no man can find the cure through logical means).
5. What actually makes living things live (Something called the "spark" of life, scientists still haven't figured out this)
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Therefore everything in the Bible is true?
 
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Bryancampbell

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Therefore everything in the Bible is true?
Seems you got cut off from answering them. Tell me, do you believe in a spirit? If not, why is it that once a man dies you cannot revive him to life? If so, what reason do we have this spirit? Got a logical answer? Everything has a reason, function, or purpose. Spirits don't just come and go from nowhere.
 
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Is the risk enough to cost you your life? What do you lose exactly by taking that first step, with walls lifted up on all sides?
Bryan I cannot believe it. If you told me you had a pet dog in your garage I'd believe you. But your asking me to believe you have a pet dragon instead. I can't believe that because It's not reality.

I do not believe the world is a magical supernatural place. It's not.

Yes there are many many things I don't know nor will ever know. But I will never accept a supernatural explanation.
 
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Bryancampbell

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Bryan I cannot believe it. If you told me you had a pet dog in your garage I'd believe you. But your asking me to believe you have a pet dragon instead. I can't believe that because It's not reality.

I do not believe the world is a magical supernatural place. It's not.

Yes there are many many things I don't know nor will ever know. But I will never accept a supernatural explanation.
What tells you that dragons don't exist (just as an example) ? Human influence, or did you actually explore the world to make sure that answer was correct? I guess you can say, everyone has faith in something they never seen or heard. How do I know there is different galaxies? I never really explored to find out...
 
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Seems you got cut off from answering them. Tell me, do you believe in a spirit? If not, why is it that once a man dies you cannot revive him to life? If so, what reason do we have this spirit? Got a logical answer? Everything has a reason, function, or purpose. Spirits don't just come and go from nowhere.
Tell me, do you believe in a spirit?

No.

If not, why is it that once a man dies you cannot revive him to life?

He's dead.
 
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What tells you that dragons don't exist (just as an example) ? Human influence, or did you actually explore the world to make sure that answer was correct? I guess you can say, everyone has faith in something they never seen or heard. How do I know there is different galaxies? I never really explored to find out...
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Each one of those lights is a galaxy.

In order to reconcile that with your position you have to believe that God created all
that just to give ancient Jews the promised land of Palestine here on little ole planet
Earth.
 
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megaman125

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Oh, so RowdyRoddy has just revealed himself as an atheist internet stalker troll. Probably some troll who couldn't back up his argument and has to resort to ad hominem personal attacks. I would ask which other username I'd recognize you by, but it honestly doesn't matter. Also, good job being so judgmental about a Christian playing a children's video game, then turn around and criticise Christians as being judgmental. It's a shock why I don't hop the fence of to the nice friendly atheists.
 
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Each one of those lights is a galaxy.

In order to reconcile that with your position you have to believe that God created all
that just to give ancient Jews the promised land of Palestine here on little ole planet
Earth.
And you like to assume that God didn't create all of that becuase your assumption is right. It's a wonder why more Christians don't see this line of athiest thinking as logical and rational.
 
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Oh, so RowdyRoddy has just revealed himself as an atheist internet stalker troll. Probably some troll who couldn't back up his argument and has to resort to ad hominem personal attacks. I would ask which other username I'd recognize you by, but it honestly doesn't matter. Also, good job being so judgmental about a Christian playing a children's video game, then turn around and criticise Christians as being judgmental. It's a shock why I don't hop the fence of to the nice friendly atheists.
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Would you like some cheese with that whine?