Dream: Obama to Kill Christians WARNING!!!

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mystdancer50

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1Tim 2v1-8 (esp. v2) with Dan 4v17, Christians will get what they pray for or do NOT pray for!

The atmosphere in ANY society is TOTALLY dependant upon the praying of the Christians in that society!

So, get praying!
This is true. It is also true that certain things are going to come to pass regardless, such as the persecution of the church, the killing of Christians, the mark of the beast, the rise of anti-Christ, and so on and so forth, because God's word foretells of these things, among others. So, yes, by all means, be a prayer warrior, for we most assuredly need prayer and, in being a prayer warrior, we hear from God and, when we obey, we are closer to being the pure bride Jesus is returning for. :)
 

jb

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This is true. It is also true that certain things are going to come to pass regardless, such as the persecution of the church, the killing of Christians, the mark of the beast, the rise of anti-Christ, and so on and so forth, because God's word foretells of these things, among others. So, yes, by all means, be a prayer warrior, for we most assuredly need prayer and, in being a prayer warrior, we hear from God and, when we obey, we are closer to being the pure bride Jesus is returning for. :)
It is most true that certain events MUST surely come to pass (ie Matt 24v12,21, 2Thess 2v3), however, the atmosphere that one gets in any society during this awful coming time will most surely depend upon Christians fulfilling (or not fulfilling as the case may be) 1Tim 2v1-8 (with Matt 5v13)!
 

posthuman

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-The rapture is here!!! It's ready to go at any second!
no one else sees that as 'good news' ?


to be clear, i think the OP fell asleep with the FauxNews station on TV, after eating too much late-night pizza,

but look at the state of the Church in America today. we are full of hypocrisy, false teachings, false converts, unbelief, stagnation, impatience, covetousness and all kinds of unlovely things and attitudes.

the most 'persecution' 99% of American Christians ever suffer is to have a cashier at stuff-mart tell them "happy holidays" instead of "merry Christmas" when they are in line to buy hundreds of dollars of junk. then, fuming about a 'war on Christmas' most of these so-thought-martyrs will walk right past the Salvation Army Santa, past a score of homeless and hungry people, and load that shopping cart full of baubles into the back of an expensive 8-passenger SUV, to drive back to their comfortable suburban home and think about how terrible the world has become while they sip hot cocoa and watch Naked Survivor on TV.

don't you think it would be galvanizing if Christians here actually were persecuted?
you think that might help separate wheat from tares, strengthen our faith, work patience and all kinds of good fruit in the hearts of the real believers?
how many people go through these luxurious & mediocre lives of ours without ever having a chance to definitively take a stand and say "i believe in Christ" when there are some actual consequences?

i'm no Zionist. the Lord himself haste the day of his coming. but i welcome it, i don't tremble for it.

i don't call his soon coming "terrible news" by any means.
 
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Anonimous

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no one else sees that as 'good news' ?


to be clear, i think the OP fell asleep with the FauxNews station on TV, after eating too much late-night pizza,

but look at the state of the Church in America today. we are full of hypocrisy, false teachings, false converts, unbelief, stagnation, impatience, covetousness and all kinds of unlovely things and attitudes.

the most 'persecution' 99% of American Christians ever suffer is to have a cashier at stuff-mart tell them "happy holidays" instead of "merry Christmas" when they are in line to buy hundreds of dollars of junk. then, fuming about a 'war on Christmas' most of these so-thought-martyrs will walk right past the Salvation Army Santa, past a score of homeless and hungry people, and load that shopping cart full of baubles into the back of an expensive 8-passenger SUV, to drive back to their comfortable suburban home and think about how terrible the world has become while they sip hot cocoa and watch Naked Survivor on TV.

don't you think it would be galvanizing if Christians here actually were persecuted?
you think that might help separate wheat from tares, strengthen our faith, work patience and all kinds of good fruit in the hearts of the real believers?
how many people go through these luxurious & mediocre lives of ours without ever having a chance to definitively take a stand and say "i believe in Christ" when there are some actual consequences?

i'm no Zionist. the Lord himself haste the day of his coming. but i welcome it, i don't tremble for it.

i don't call his soon coming "terrible news" by any means.
It could be that some persecution IS what the church needs today. The first believers sat around most of the time after being told what to do. It wasn't until the persecution started that the church began to grow. There has to be something that will separate the wheat from the tares. Perhaps that will do it?
 
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I don't see the political climate for killing christians neither do I see President Obama having the clout or influence to start such a purge.

It would be a radical departure from how our nation has been run for over 200 years.

To me, our secular humanist marxist president would rather control and ridicule christians. I doubt he is christian. I do not see any of his agenda that supports any christian principle or ideal.....in fact quite the opposite.

I just cannot see Congress signing off on the wholesale murder of a religious sect.

I cannot see this president, though he has stretched the constitution, with the aid of the Supreme Court, to the breaking point, I just cannot see President Obama being able to accomplish this task.

Anything can happen....I just have not seen any porcine pilots lately.
This would explain it best IMO when the lord is ready to take what belongs to him and fulfill his promises,he will..the political arena is just that,in this permissive world nothing would surprise me anymore..as it relates to political policy,but something tells me that god's plans are so far ahead of the way man thinks..they we MIGHT be giving far to much weight to how America is such a big factor in Gods return..there are signs in the world yes,but it would probably be far worse than what we are seeing now in our lifetimes..even if the whole world was at peace,and god says it's time..it's time! so just prepare your hearts and submit to you him..and let the worlds events play out as they will!!
 
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Charismatic-sts1

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This is a great time to study a false prophet. First of all a bible verse was taken out of context. Ezekiel 3:17 is to warn the nation of Israel of the need of repentance before Gods judgment comes to them because of idolatry.

This "prophet" wishes to warn us of mass genocide of Christians, not to bring repentance so the verse does not mean what the prophet claims it does.

2. No message of salvation, the prophet after warning us of these awefull things coming only declares, the rapture is coming soon. While I applaud the idea of the rapture coming this is not a message of salvation, nor is the final message clean yourselves don't be a foolish bride.

3. Prophecy should come with instructions, in no prophecy of the old testament does God warn of destruction without instruction. The prophecy should have a revelation of something biblical about Jesus Christ.

While it is highly possible that there will be nuclear exchange we should not fear death, we should instead go about our daily lives sharing the Gospel of Jesus Christ and living a Godly life. To live is Christ to die is gain.
 
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Charismatic-sts1

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While we would all love to see the rapture come, God is holding out for another soul to come to Christ so the fact it has not come yet is because people still are coming to Jesus for salvation.There is no relevance to when the rapture comes, we know it is coming soon according to Jesus. Our biblical instruction is to be ready. How do we get ready, by repenting and receiving Jesus Christ as our Lord and savior. Once you know Jesus when the rapture comes is unimportant, we are called to live Godly lives as though he is coming today, if it happens in our life time praise God, if not we will be resurrected from our graves.
I would agree there is apostasy in the Church as of now, so be faithful and diligently seek Jesus Christ daily and keep in his word so that you can discern what is of God and what is of other spirits.
 

homwardbound

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I just went back to read what the OP said. I really had not noticed some things
he said I do not understand or agree with. One, the rapture ? No, it is not here.
I did hear there is a teaching going on that it is here or has occurred. I don't
recall exactly.

I did not agree with all he said. But the two things I have expounded upon I
don't take back. We all have a different view of what we see happening around
us. And what we see or believe is from the Word of God. If we don't agree
it is something we can go to God in prayer over and seek His answer. We know
He will respond because it pleases Him to have us question Him ~ Then when
He gives us the answer, I see no reason why it can't be shared, unless He
expressly tells us in our spirit, this is not to be revealed yet.

I have been guilty of revealing things He has shown me before due time.
Perhaps that is the situation here ? I don't know. I just know we must stop
fighting one another and some of the silliness that is like mockery not to the
one posting, but mockery like, thumbing nose at God.

I believe everyone has something to share. Give them a chance. If we have
something to say, God help us say it in love. I for one will be first to say often
times I am quick to jump in before thinking the issue at hand all the way through.
It is wise to go back and read twice. I have messed up many times because I
did not catch the OP thread.
Thank you Sister thank you
Yes for me it is to remember these scriptures:
1 Corinthians 3:6
I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.

Romans 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

Romans 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
James 5:9 Grudge not one against another, brethren, lest ye be condemned: behold, the judge standeth before the door.



 

homwardbound

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1Tim 2v1-8 (esp. v2) with Dan 4v17, Christians will get what they pray for or do NOT pray for!

The atmosphere in ANY society is TOTALLY dependant upon the praying of the Christians in that society!

So, get praying!
Awesome, yet is God dependent on us or are we dependent on God? Just thought maybe a little clarification, in who needs who
 

homwardbound

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This is true. It is also true that certain things are going to come to pass regardless, such as the persecution of the church, the killing of Christians, the mark of the beast, the rise of anti-Christ, and so on and so forth, because God's word foretells of these things, among others. So, yes, by all means, be a prayer warrior, for we most assuredly need prayer and, in being a prayer warrior, we hear from God and, when we obey, we are closer to being the pure bride Jesus is returning for. :)
Is what you said here Sister works of flesh, by any chance?
Or should I end not my will Father but yours be done, for I know you know best, for all, I pray Father for your will, not mine, you already promised to supply all my needs? And have to this very day, even in the day of being homeless and jobless
Can we glory in all things?
 

homwardbound

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This is a great time to study a false prophet. First of all a bible verse was taken out of context. Ezekiel 3:17 is to warn the nation of Israel of the need of repentance before Gods judgment comes to them because of idolatry.

This "prophet" wishes to warn us of mass genocide of Christians, not to bring repentance so the verse does not mean what the prophet claims it does.

2. No message of salvation, the prophet after warning us of these awefull things coming only declares, the rapture is coming soon. While I applaud the idea of the rapture coming this is not a message of salvation, nor is the final message clean yourselves don't be a foolish bride.

3. Prophecy should come with instructions, in no prophecy of the old testament does God warn of destruction without instruction. The prophecy should have a revelation of something biblical about Jesus Christ.

While it is highly possible that there will be nuclear exchange we should not fear death, we should instead go about our daily lives sharing the Gospel of Jesus Christ and living a Godly life. To live is Christ to die is gain.
hose that are not willing to die for Christ will not have life.
 

mystdancer50

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Is what you said here Sister works of flesh, by any chance?
Or should I end not my will Father but yours be done, for I know you know best, for all, I pray Father for your will, not mine, you already promised to supply all my needs? And have to this very day, even in the day of being homeless and jobless
Can we glory in all things?
What I said there is truth. By all means, we need to be prayer warriors. Yet, the climate of the world is not going to change, as the Bible predicts what is coming. As we pray, we draw nearer to God and are purified as we change our lives to be holy as He is holy. I see no 'works of the flesh' in my response.
 

mystdancer50

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This is a great time to study a false prophet. First of all a bible verse was taken out of context. Ezekiel 3:17 is to warn the nation of Israel of the need of repentance before Gods judgment comes to them because of idolatry.

This "prophet" wishes to warn us of mass genocide of Christians, not to bring repentance so the verse does not mean what the prophet claims it does.

2. No message of salvation, the prophet after warning us of these awefull things coming only declares, the rapture is coming soon. While I applaud the idea of the rapture coming this is not a message of salvation, nor is the final message clean yourselves don't be a foolish bride.

3. Prophecy should come with instructions, in no prophecy of the old testament does God warn of destruction without instruction. The prophecy should have a revelation of something biblical about Jesus Christ.

While it is highly possible that there will be nuclear exchange we should not fear death, we should instead go about our daily lives sharing the Gospel of Jesus Christ and living a Godly life. To live is Christ to die is gain.
He is essentially warning all of the days to come. I think the only controversial thing he did was specifically naming Obama. All the rest in his post is truth. Though there is a divide on the Rapture debate, the key is to be prepared for either event to occur: we're either here for the full time of Jacob's Trouble or we're not. We are living in the last days and must be prepared. He is speaking to the church, not to the unsaved, and thus "Clean yourselves! Don't be a foolish bride!" is what we must do. We must not be as the foolish virgins. We must prepare and await the Lord's coming with expectation.

When my brother was in his late teens, God sent him a dream telling my brother that the anti-Christ was already born and was near my brother's age. The dream itself is a call to repentance for the dreamer, and then the speaking of it is to alert those who would be watchful and believe to do so.
 

homwardbound

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What I said there is truth. By all means, we need to be prayer warriors. Yet, the climate of the world is not going to change, as the Bible predicts what is coming. As we pray, we draw nearer to God and are purified as we change our lives to be holy as He is holy. I see no 'works of the flesh' in my response.
Cool, Amen Sister, I just put it out there and each gets to decide for themselves, our common denominator is Christ,
1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

I appreciate you and the rest of the body, much learning has been accomplished through all here at least for me and love the fellowship
 
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He is essentially warning all of the days to come.

When my brother was in his late teens, God sent him a dream telling my brother that the anti-Christ was already born and was near my brother's age. The dream itself is a call to repentance for the dreamer, and then the speaking of it is to alert those who would be watchful and believe to do so.
I agree he is in the wings awaiting his move. Do you mind sharing your brothers age.
If you don't feel comfortable doing so, I understand. Thanks for sharing this ~
 

Elizabeth619

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I wish all these self proclaimed prophets would get their stories straight and not contradict each other.

Btw, the bible tells us we do not know when The Lord will return. We are told to be prepared. People continuously saying "the rapture is here" should spend more time studying scripture than relying on dreams and "visions".
 
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doulos

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I agree he is in the wings awaiting his move. Do you mind sharing your brothers age.
If you don't feel comfortable doing so, I understand. Thanks for sharing this ~
Sad to see so much misunderstanding when it comes to antichrist/antichrists. Which of the following 4 verses (the only 4 in Scripture that use the term) tell us antichrist is an end time world ruler?
1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Isn't it time we start basing our beliefs about antichrist on what Scripture actually says, instead of following a Scripturally bankrupt doctrine of men that makes the word of God of none effect by changing the definitions Scripture itself provides?
 

mystdancer50

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I agree he is in the wings awaiting his move. Do you mind sharing your brothers age.
If you don't feel comfortable doing so, I understand. Thanks for sharing this ~
Right now, my brother is 34. He will be 35 in March.
 
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HeIsNowHere

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Read the Bible and see if God speaks to people from dreams or not. God is the same and never changes. Therefore, today he will still speak to people in dreams but not every dream is from God almost all dreams are not. However, warning to the church that it is time for "the dark thing" to come and the church will be forced to make a decision follow it or stand against it with the Army of God knowing that death will result. But as one said here they can only kill the body 1 time. The church will be tested and by Church I mean anyone who confesses the King and creator of the Universe Jesus Christ as Lord. To the world Christianity is a mental illness as they are blind to the light that has come. But they speak from darkness and ignorance acting like they know yet are totally blind to truth. But we all will die once and them face judgment and give an account for everything and only those who have pardon from the savior who paid the penalty for these sins will they live eternally. Those who reject the King and Creator of the Universe will be condemned and perish. Those who accept King Jesus Christ will not perish but have everylasting life.