JUDAS IN HELL?

[Wootie]

I often wonder if Judas hung himself before or after Christ was crucified. If Christ had risen already and our sins forgiven us, then it makes me wonder if Judas (with his last dying breath asked for forgivness)?
If Christ had not risen yet, then Judas would had to have sacrificed to God to cover his sins & that doesn't seem likely. Kinda makes me wonder if Judas is going to be there when we get there. Anybody else got any comments?

 

[MahogonySnail]

I think he's in hell because Jesus said it would be better if he wasn't even born. Implying that his death would be far worse.

 

[Ecclesiastik]

I've heard some Catholics say "Who knows if Judas is saved" even though the Bible quite clearly shows this guy to be satanic in nature.

 

[RuthHannah]

Judus is awaiting a resurrection to go in fire

 

[ChosenbyHim]

Right now Judas is in his own place.


Acts 1:25

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)


25 that he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.


It is very likely that this place that Judas is in is the bottomless pit. But I am not 100% sure though if that is the case.


I just know that from the testimony of the holy Scriptures, that Judas went to his own place.

 

[2Thewaters]

Judas is in the grave.
He will wake in the judgment, be judged and punished and then thrown in the lake of fire and turned to ashes

all done

 

[posthuman]

i don't think the Bible "clearly shows" Judas was 'satanic' - any more than Peter was, whom the Lord openly rebuked saying "get thee behind me, satan!"

rather, i think it clearly shows that he walked in darkness, and then saw his error and repented of it, throwing the coins at the feet of the high priest and then taking his own life in remorse.

if Judas could not be saved, how many of us could? are we any better even than Peter, who denied Him? and the thief also walked in unrighteousness, but turned to the Lord on his cross.

i've always thought it ironic & tragic that here is one man, Judas, whom few that claim Christ are willing to forgive, though many share traits with. i can't claim to know if Judas came to be saved, but i do hope​ that he was.

 

[Isdaniel]

[h=3]John 5:27-29[/h]King James Version (KJV)

27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

 

[Isdaniel]

i don't think the Bible "clearly shows" Judas was 'satanic' - any more than Peter was, whom the Lord openly rebuked saying "get thee behind me, satan!"

rather, i think it clearly shows that he walked in darkness, and then saw his error and repented of it, throwing the coins at the feet of the high priest and then taking his own life in remorse.

if Judas could not be saved, how many of us could? are we any better even than Peter, who denied Him? and the thief also walked in unrighteousness, but turned to the Lord on his cross.

i've always thought it ironic & tragic that here is one man, Judas, whom few that claim Christ are willing to forgive. i can't claim to know if Judas came to be saved, but i do hope​ that he was.

Judus was made for destruction

 

[Isdaniel]

i don't think the Bible "clearly shows" Judas was 'satanic' - any more than Peter was, whom the Lord openly rebuked saying "get thee behind me, satan!"

rather, i think it clearly shows that he walked in darkness, and then saw his error and repented of it, throwing the coins at the feet of the high priest and then taking his own life in remorse.

if Judas could not be saved, how many of us could? are we any better even than Peter, who denied Him? and the thief also walked in unrighteousness, but turned to the Lord on his cross.

i've always thought it ironic & tragic that here is one man, Judas, whom few that claim Christ are willing to forgive. i can't claim to know if Judas came to be saved, but i do hope​ that he was.

Jesus said he chose him and he was the devil

 

[Isdaniel]

Right now Judas is in his own place.


Acts 1:25

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)


25 that he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.


It is very likely that this place that Judas is in is the bottomless pit. But I am not 100% sure though if that is the case.


I just know that from the testimony of the holy Scriptures, that Judas went to his own place.

death is the own place hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[Ecclesiastik]

i don't think the Bible "clearly shows" Judas was 'satanic' - any more than Peter was, whom the Lord openly rebuked saying "get thee behind me, satan!"

Hello post,

I really believe he was. Please refer to the following Scripture.


"I have guarded them, and not one of them has been lost except the son of destruction, that the Scripture might be fulfilled."
John 17:12

"he was a thief, and having charge of the moneybag he used to help himself to what was put into it"
John 12:6

 

[nathan3]

I often wonder if Judas hung himself before or after Christ was crucified.

If Christ had risen already and our sins forgiven us, then it makes me wonder if Judas (with his last dying breath asked for forgivness)?

If Christ had not risen yet, then Judas would had to have sacrificed to God to cover his sins & that doesn't seem likely. Kinda makes me wonder if Judas is going to be there when we get there. Anybody else got any comments?

Try to factor in more details from the Bible. It doesn't matter if he died before or after; all return to God in heaven to either side of the gulf ( Ecclesiastes 12:7 ; 1 Peter 3:18-20 etc )

Judas did repent ( ask for forgiveness ) Matthew 27:3-10.

"Hell" as too many mistakenly think of it today as something that is now, and that is a literal on fire forever ( as in the movies ), is not in existence yet. It is a final judgment reserved for the end if the Lord's Day , which is future. Has not happened yet. ( Revelation 20 ). It is also a blotting out. ( Matthew 10:28 )

Notice also, that God has a plan, and that plan gos done just as written. Judas was use in that plan, but it was Satan himself, that did the betraying. If you overlook his role, then your missing out on what scriptures fully teach, Luke 22:3

From those scriptures and more, I'm confident to say Judas is in heaven, on either side of the gulf, Alive. Pass that I'm not going to assume anything .

 

[Isdaniel]

i don't think the Bible "clearly shows" Judas was 'satanic' - any more than Peter was, whom the Lord openly rebuked saying "get thee behind me, satan!"

rather, i think it clearly shows that he walked in darkness, and then saw his error and repented of it, throwing the coins at the feet of the high priest and then taking his own life in remorse.

if Judas could not be saved, how many of us could? are we any better even than Peter, who denied Him? and the thief also walked in unrighteousness, but turned to the Lord on his cross.

i've always thought it ironic & tragic that here is one man, Judas, whom few that claim Christ are willing to forgive, though many share traits with. i can't claim to know if Judas came to be saved, but i do hope​ that he was.

[h=3]John 6:70[/h]King James Version (KJV)

70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?

 

[nimbus3852]

Judas was the hero, because without him Jesus might not have died.

 

[ServantStrike]

i don't think the Bible "clearly shows" Judas was 'satanic' - any more than Peter was, whom the Lord openly rebuked saying "get thee behind me, satan!"

rather, i think it clearly shows that he walked in darkness, and then saw his error and repented of it, throwing the coins at the feet of the high priest and then taking his own life in remorse.

if Judas could not be saved, how many of us could? are we any better even than Peter, who denied Him? and the thief also walked in unrighteousness, but turned to the Lord on his cross.

i've always thought it ironic & tragic that here is one man, Judas, whom few that claim Christ are willing to forgive, though many share traits with. i can't claim to know if Judas came to be saved, but i do hope​ that he was.

I do believe that his suicide is not the act of a saved man though. He clearly demonstrated a lack of faith that Christ could forgive him for his transgression.

Jesus said he chose him and he was the devil

Verses please.

Hello post,

I really believe he was. Please refer to the following Scripture.


"I have guarded them, and not one of them has been lost except the son of destruction, that the Scripture might be fulfilled."
John 17:12

"he was a thief, and having charge of the moneybag he used to help himself to what was put into it"
John 12:6

I think the son of destruction is the antichrist. I don't think you can apply that verse to Judas.

12:6 is interesting. Judas never demonstrated faith did he?

 

[Isdaniel]

Try to factor in more details from the Bible. It doesn't matter if he died before or after; all return to God in heaven to either side of the gulf ( Ecclesiastes 12:7 ; 1 Peter 3:18-20 etc )

Judas did repent ( ask for forgiveness ) Matthew 27:3-10.

"Hell" as too many mistakenly think of it today as something that is now, and that is a literal on fire forever ( as in the movies ), is not in existence yet. It is a final judgment reserved for the end if the Lord's Day , which is future. Has not happened yet. ( Revelation 20 ). It is also a blotting out. ( Matthew 10:28 )


From those scriptures and more, I'm confident to say Judas is in heaven, on either side of the gulf, Alive. Pass that I'm not going to assume anything .

Are you saying he is in a place concious and seeing and talking with other dead people

 

[posthuman]

Jesus said he chose him and he was the devil

the scripture says the Devil entered into him -- not that he was literally satan. (Luke 22:3).
the word Christ used referring to Judas in John 6:70 is a metaphoric term that was used to describe anyone who was doing Satan's work, not literally the devil himself.

Judus was made for destruction

sure enough, but is destruction of the flesh the same as damnation of the soul?

why then would Paul have taught:

you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord.
(1 Corinthians 5:5)

is the Lord not faithful to forgive anyone who turns to Him in repentance?

what does it mean here:

have mercy on those who doubt; save others by snatching them out of the fire; to others show mercy with fear, hating even the garment stained by the flesh.
(Jude 1:22-23)

to be 'snatched out of the fire' ?

to have 'mercy and fear, hating even what is tainted by proximity' ?

if there is no hope for Judas, who has hope?

 

[Isdaniel]

I do believe that his suicide is not the act of a saved man though. He clearly demonstrated a lack of faith that Christ could forgive him for his transgression.





Verses please.



I think the son of destruction is the antichrist. I don't think you can apply that verse to Judas.

12:6 is interesting. Judas never demonstrated faith did he?

[h=3]John 6:70[/h]King James Version (KJV)

70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?

 

[posthuman]

John 6:70

King James Version (KJV)

70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?

Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan!"
(Matthew 16:23)

no hope of salvation for Peter, either?