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Why are we the only species on the planet that facilitates what God has given us by a created object in money?
 

crossnote

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Just further proof we did not evolve from the animal kingdom.
 

Elizabeth619

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why do you continuously start numerous threads about this same topic?
 

Elizabeth619

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The definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different response.
 
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It is called sin:

satan turned man who was created for the glory of God (
Defiinition: INfinite power to make finite beings Do Gods commandments is GLORY)

into self pleasiing animals.
Onse selfish virus hits the brain, man kills steals lies sdulterates and covets for money

he will even worship a MAN who SAYS he is the "holy father" for money
man will even keep SUNDAY for money!
he will do anything for money even kill himslef

because man was created with the power to do awesome good, he has a fatal brain virus that uses its oen energy to please self!

this is feedback that will destroy the brain and melt it down.
put in a subrouting that melts brains and kills everyone in the univers for selfish gain

It starts making man do things for PLEASURE!
how horrible!

Monkeys who were implanted with pleasure probes to the brain would push the button until they died.

sin


it is called the sin virus

if a church REALLY had LOVE, they woudl sell their building and the pews and buy food for people on the street/
 
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2Thewaters

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but the truth is they are HiPPYCRITES
and their church LOVE is a love for MONEY! DRUGS! SEX! ROCK N ROLL!

yes! Love for BIG CONGRAGATIONS pretending to follow the Bible when they rip out whole sections of it

Oh yes!
We believe the WHOLE BIBLE except the parts that expose our corruption and false doctrines!
Yes we follow the whole Bible?
Which verse?
Well the part that was not ripped out iswe were predstined for heaven no matter how much coacine we snort?!
oh wow I like that church let me hjoin and give you tax free money!

Thats what it is all about
Hypocrassy for money making
Public utilities they are.
 
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EliBeth

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The definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different response.
Not nice!! Why must people degrade each other so much?! As goes the old maxim: If you can't say anything nice, then don't say anything at all. Sheesh, give the dude a break.
 
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LT

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but the truth is they are HiPPYCRITES
and their church LOVE is a love for MONEY! DRUGS! SEX! ROCK N ROLL!

yes! Love for BIG CONGRAGATIONS pretending to follow the Bible when they rip out whole sections of it

Oh yes!
We believe the WHOLE BIBLE except the parts that expose our corruption and false doctrines!
Yes we follow the whole Bible?
Which verse?
Well the part that was not ripped out iswe were predstined for heaven no matter how much coacine we snort?!
oh wow I like that church let me hjoin and give you tax free money!

Thats what it is all about
Hypocrassy for money making
Public utilities they are.
be careful to not throw out some wheat with those tares.
 

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At op, because we lost dominion of this world. Money is not the issue, infact money is not the only thing traded/facilitated for tangible goods/services, time is... and time is extremely valuable, also created. I find idolatry to be an interesting subject.

For what shall it*profit a man,*if he*shall*gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?*

For what*will a man give in exchange for his soul?*

" Redeeming the time, because the*days are evil "
 
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[FONT="color:blue]There is a well-known quote amongst students who study the system of commerce and Banking. It was made by a man who is known by the name Colonel Edward Mandel House. In part of the infamous quote, the Colonel was purported to have said, [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT="color:maroon]“[Very] soon, every American will be required to register their biological property in a national system designed to keep track of the people and that will operate under [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT="color:red]the ancient system of [U]pledging[/U][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT="color:maroon].” [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue]He further stated,[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT="color:maroon] “Americans, by unknowingly or unwittingly delivering the bills of lading [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue][Birth Certificate, the original, the lawful not the legal extract sold by Vital Statistics, the record produced by the hospital, represents the first person-Esau, who sold his inheritance for Social Security (A bowl of soup) to the second person Jacob, whose name was changed to Israel, after becoming the heir in place of the one that despised his inheritance][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT="color:maroon] to us will be rendered [U]bankrupt and insolvent[/U], forever to remain economic slaves through taxation, [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT="color:red]secured by their [U]pledges[/U][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT="color:maroon].”[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue]The first thing that I want to bring to your attention is that you are [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT="color:red]subject to taxation because of a pledge[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue] that has been made by you, and more than likely, you are unaware of this, and how this pledge is affirmed and reaffirmed daily, in so many different ways. However, for the duration of this composition, I AM going to share with you my experience and perception as to how this plays out in one very simple way. And through this, you will find out why it is that I say, one of the most powerful statements that can aid in correcting [U]ANY[/U] mistake is, [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT="color:red]“It was never my will or intent to Pledge or Gift unto you/YOUR CORPORATION/the Matrix/fill-n-the-blank, the energy of my Love, Life, Labor, Body, Soul, or Spirit.” (Ab inito) This declaration of intent covers absolutely everything.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue]Now, the question is, “What exactly is this pledge, or at the least, how is this pledge perceived or expressed?” However,[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue] before I get to this, I want to comment on what some might already be thinking, wherein there are those that would want to argue the validity of whether or not the Colonel actually made the quoted statements above. My position is simply to look at the entire statement, and then evaluate it in the light of current conditions of what is actually taking place in the world. Since there is a match, any attempt to argue most certainly defaults to complete frivolousness; and, moreover dishonor just for the sake of being argumentative. In short, it is highly irrelevant if the Colonel made the quote or not. Therefore, the only thing that matters is if what is said is the truth, or not.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue]Now back to the central point I wish to make, which is that pledges or pledging are affirmed each and every single time you go to the bank to make a, “deposit,” cashing that check, and not expressing the intent of the trust that you desire to be associated with. That is of course, if you do not do as the Widow did in Mark chapter 12 verses 41 through 44, who [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT="color:red]gave everything she had back to the Treasury obligating the Treasury to fulfilling her needs in return[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue]. If you have read this passage, did you notice how, Immanuel/JESUS was not really impressed with the big wads of cash that was being dumped into the donation pot by the Warren Buffets, the Bill Gates, and the Rothchild-Rockefellers-JPMorgans? Nah, he was not impressed by that at all, even though they gave of their abundance, because they did not return EVERYTHING back to the Treasury, which declares their greed and selfishness by the intent of their actions. However, the Widow did, and this is why she was esteemed with praise for her good works. Now you know one way a Judge knows if you genuinely intend to be a peaceful inhabitant, or a belligerent hostile.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue]You are correct to perceive that I AM saying, to make a, “deposit,” such as with the cashing of a check, with an open signature indorsement, meaning no limitation in the indorsement, is to [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT="color:red]make a pledge that elects backing up the rendering of the people to be both bankrupt and insolvent[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue]. Now, how pleasant a thought is this that we have all contributed to the financial demise of not just ourselves, but also everybody else by the simple action of making a deposit/pledge into what we think is our bank account? Can you think of any better motivation to allow Treasury to do its job than this? The Widow agreed to allow Treasury to do its job, why should we not follow her example?[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue]This is why Coresource Solutions position has not only been to make use of a limited signature indorsement expressing a lawful money intent, [12USC411 - (if you still must make use of a bank account for the NAME)] but much more importantly to send everything back to the Treasury as the Widow did, and allow the Treasury to do what it is designed, created, and commissioned to do, without any interference from us trying to do their job. Since it is widely accepted and recognized that Man cannot directly engage in commerce, why do we feel the need to have our own personal bank account? Isn’t the Treasury good enough? It is the position of Coresource Solutions that it is![/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=""]In Webster’s 1828 Dictionary, the third definition for the word [/FONT][FONT="color:red]deposit[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=""] is,[/FONT][FONT=""]“lodge in the hands of a person for safe-keeping or other purpose; to commit to the care of; to entrust; [/FONT][FONT="color:red]to [U]commit to one as a pledge[/U].[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=""] We say, the bond is deposited in the hands of an attorney; money is deposited [/FONT][FONT="color:red]as a [U]pledge[/U][/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=""], or security.[/FONT][FONT=""]Now, notice a nearly identical definition in Webster’s 1913 Dictionary, number-3,[/FONT][FONT=""]“To lodge in some one’s hands for safe keeping; to commit to the custody of another; to intrust; especially,[/FONT][FONT="color:red] to place in a bank, as a sum of money subject to order.”[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=""]Now, notice definition number-7 of the same dictionary,[/FONT][FONT="color:blue]“That which is placed anywhere, or in any one’s hands, for safe keeping; something intrusted to the care of another; [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT="color:red]especially, money lodged with a bank or banker, subject to order;[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT="color:red]anything [U]given as pledge[/U] or security[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue].”[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue]So then, if it, no matter what, “IT” is, has been [/FONT][/COLOR][U][COLOR=red][FONT="color:red]given to them[/FONT][/COLOR][/U][COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue]; or to any of their officers, then it has been [/FONT][/COLOR][U][COLOR=red][FONT="color:red]pledged[/FONT][/COLOR][/U][COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue] to them. Remember this the next time a Police Officer asks you to give to him/her a drivers license, registration, and proof of insurance, and you do it without expressing to him/her that these documents [/FONT][/COLOR][U][COLOR=red][FONT="color:red]are for his/her benefit and not for your own benefit[/FONT][/COLOR][/U][COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue], because they belong to the STATE and not to you. Hmm, is this another hint as to how a pledge is unknowingly and unwittingly expressed as the Colonel said? Furthermore, every single time a deposit is being made into a bank account wherein the NAME is being indorsed upon its backside, a pledge is being made; a pledge that attests, affirms, and elects for bankruptcy and insolvency according to what the Colonel said. This is why, at the very-very least, a limited indorsement showing the intent of lawful money is imperative, and needs to be expressed by whoever is putting the indorsement upon the backside.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue]Finally, I believe this is the reason and purpose for, [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT="color:red]“Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s; and unto God the things that are God’s.”[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue] (Matthew 22:21; Mark 12:17; and, Luke 20:25) Primarily this is showing that if you do not render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, such as his form of money and his documents, you have affectively pledged your allegiance to Caesar by an implied trust of association, which can be assumed from holding onto the things of Caesar, but more so because of the mindset of, “That is mine,” or, “It belongs to me,” or, “I am the owner,” which then can be directly equated to liability and thus trusteeship, suretyship, and fiduciary duties.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue]This is why it is impossible for any man to serve two masters; meaning, no one can serve both the Creations Creator and the Creation of the Creator in and for love, and Money/Caesar at the same time. Therefore, the solution for any potential double mindedness is in the admonishment to, [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT="color:red]“come out of her [Babylon] my people and partake no more of her sin [debt],”[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue] which is through the creation of debt, and by participating in that world as a debtor/sinner/slave which ultimately will end up in death, decay, and destruction because of bankruptcy and insolvency, resulting from not rendering the debtor/sinner/slave things of Caesar, back to Caesar.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue]We were all born without money, and since money was never created in the beginning by a famous line such as, [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT="color:red]“Let there be money,”[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue] why have we come to believe that we have any need for it? It is the Treasury’s duty and responsibility to handle ALL the money. So let them. The world that our Father loves and sent Us into, is a world of giving, forgiving (correct the mistake) and trust, wherein this kind of trust is to, [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT="color:red]“Love one another as I have loved you.”[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue] The only way to honor such a great gift is to give from that which you have freely received, because, [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT="color:red]“Freely you have received, therefore, freely give.”[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue] There is no charging or discharging in giving and gifting, therefore, there is no need for accounting, records, or credit reports. Such thoughts are considered by far too many to be utopian and therefore impossible. So then, for those that believe these things not to be possible, I dare you to dream of a better way, because ultimately WITHOUT giving, forgiving and trust, you can only have bankruptcy and insolvency, not to mention the death, decay, and destruction.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue][FONT="color:blue]So then, let us all focus our energy on making the Treasury what it was created to be and bless them by allowing them do their job and make the burden of living life much more pleasant and enjoyable than mankind has ever experienced since before the foundation of this world was laid.


[URL="http://onlashuk.wordpress.com/2011/03/30/deposit-your-pledge-into-a-bank-and-freely-elect-to-be-bankrupt-and-insolvent/"]DEPOSIT YOUR PLEDGE INTO A BANK AND FREELY ELECT TO BE BANKRUPT AND INSOLVENT | BORN IN EQUITY[/URL][/FONT]
 

Hizikyah

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Spirit of Fire what do you think about the Federal Reserve?

And is the Federal Reserve/Central Banks in Scripture?
 
Jul 26, 2013
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Spirit of Fire what do you think about the Federal Reserve?

And is the Federal Reserve/Central Banks in Scripture?
It is a private company ran by a small group of individuals. But the whole system is built on our pledge to comply. If we want everyone to enjoy all there is, we simply have to stop trying to buy it and give it away!
 
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IMPORTANT INFORMATION

Capitis Diminutio Maxima (Name in ALL CAPITALS)

For purposes of understanding one's legal or commercial status under the Admiralty system (the law system used in England, Canada and much of the US), it is necessary to examine the curious use of all CAPS -Capitis Diminutio Maxima- in legal and domestic income tax forms, credit cards & statements, loans, mortgages, speeding & parking tickets, car documents, road tax, court summons etc. While seemingly a trite concern, this apparently small detail has extremely deep significance for all of us!

Gage Canadian Dictionary 1983 Sec. 4 defines Capitalize adj. as "To take advantage of - To use to ones own advantage."

Blacks Law Dictionary – Revised 4th Edition 1968, provides a more comprehensive definition as follows …
Capitis Diminutio (meaning the diminishing of status through the use of capitalization) In Roman law. A diminishing or abridgment of personality; a loss or curtailment of a man's status or aggregate of legal attributes and qualifications.



Capitis Diminutio Minima (meaning a minimum loss of status through the use of capitalization, e.g. John Doe) - The lowest or least comprehensive degree of loss of status. This occurred where a man's family relations alone were changed. It happened upon the arrogation [pride] of a person who had been his own master, (sui juris,) [of his own right, not under any legal disability] or upon the emancipation of one who had been under the patria potestas. [Parental authority] It left the rights of liberty and citizenship unaltered. See Inst. 1, 16, pr.; 1, 2, 3; Dig. 4, 5, 11; Mackeld. Rom.Law, 144.


Capitis Diminutio Media (meaning a medium loss of status through the use of capitalization, e.g. John DOE) - A lessor or medium loss of status. This occurred where a man loses his rights of citizenship, but without losing his liberty. It carried away also the family rights.

Capitis Diminutio Maxima (meaning a maximum loss of status through the use of capitalization, e.g. JOHN DOE or DOE JOHN) - The highest or most comprehensive loss of status. This occurred when a man's condition was changed from one of freedom to one of bondage, when he became a slave. It swept away with it all rights of citizenship and all family rights.

Diminutio. Lat. In civil law. Diminution; a taking away; loss or depravation.

Capite. - Lat. By the head.

As Black's Law Dictionary explains, the full capitalization of the letters of one's natural name, results in a diminishing or complete loss of legal or citizenship status, wherein one actually becomes a slave or an item of inventory. The method, by which the State causes a natural person to "volunteer" himself into slavery, is through forming legal joinder, implied or stated, with the entity or legal fiction (name all CAPS). Of course, most natural persons wouldn't willingly form such an unlawful but legally reductionist joinder, so trickery and obfuscation are used; and this starts when our birth certificates are created.
[The initial joinder is formed when a legal Birth Certificate is issued by the State, name in all CAPS. In fact, both the Certificate of Birth AND Social Security number, are for "inventory" control purposes, similar to the Amistad Schooner's manifest or those numbers or records used by legal entities or Corporations to track, account for, use and dispose of inventory.]

Due to the UK, Canada and the US being bankrupt countries, yes all these countries have been bankrupt for some time now; they all have currencies that are known as FIAT currency. In other words, all our money is worthless! There is no big Gold or Silver reserves to back it up…look on any UK banknote and you will see the words, I promise to pay the bearer. It is a promissory note…nothing more. Worthless basically!

So when we are registered at birth, the government produces a corporation, a straw-man, by placing our name in all capitals. But why I hear you ask? Well as we are a bankrupt country (just waiting to go into an economic fold – exactly what is about to happen in the US) the government needs collateral to invest and to receive loans on, so we, the people, become slaves in bondage to be used as collateral with lenders.

Do not make the mistake of thinking that still doesn’t apply! Do not make the mistake of taking advice from anyone who studies, or has studied orthodox law, as they especially will not know this…they were kept well away from this deliberately. Police do NOT know that us and them are slaves in bondage, solicitors & lawyers do NOT know that them and us are slaves in bondage, and most government agents do NOT know either.

But the great thing is we don’t have to be. It is as easy as being knowledgeable, aware and then just politely declining their offered contract!
 
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38miles

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Seriously...I had no idea.
 

mystdancer50

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Just be aware that God doesn't say money in itself is evil. His word says that the LOVE of money is the root of all kinds of evil. So, if you find yourself having a huge issue with money, one way or the other, it isn't the money that is evil, dark or wrong...it is your attitude toward it.
 
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Just be aware that God doesn't say money in itself is evil. His word says that the LOVE of money is the root of all kinds of evil. So, if you find yourself having a huge issue with money, one way or the other, it isn't the money that is evil, dark or wrong...it is your attitude toward it.
So true...it is the love of money and what money can buy (greed and lust) for sure!
 
Jul 26, 2013
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How many here has used their social security cards to receive things like a state I.D or drivers license? I'm sure we all did, but did you ever take the time to read it before you do?
 

posthuman

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Why are we the only species on the planet that facilitates what God has given us by a created object in money?
we're not. it's been shown many times that chimps and some other monkeys - probably a lot more than the few kinds that researchers have done studies with - are fully capable of understanding and using money. some types of penguins trade stones used for nest building like they were money. both the chimps and the penguins engage in a primitive form of prostitution, too. money is an augmentation / extension of a bartering system, and many animals understand bartering.

but man can sink even lower than the animals.