do you think obama is the antichrist?

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Like everyone else... we should pray for Obama, that God draws him and saves him.

One can be distracted with labeling an individual and forget that it can deter from witnessing to them. We're to be fishers of men.

I believe the Antichrist/enemy of Christ will be a religious figure that deceives the masses, a counterfeit of the church Christ established. The correct way is narrow and the Holy Spirit is our guide. The Antichrist's way is the opposite.... it's of the world (man's way) with sinful men ruling and being the guide instead of the Holy Spirit.... and so forth............
Katy-follower, the masses have already been deceived. They are so deceived by a smokescreen called "the Anti-Christ" that they do not recognize those identified by "anti-Christ" in context (1 John 2:18; 22, 4:3; 2 John v. 7). Please read these (the only application of this word in scripture and you will no longer focus on this word as in the idea of a boogeyman dictator who opposes the Israelis.
 
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doulos

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No, I think that would be Nero. At least I think the author of Revelation believes it is Nero. :)
The author of Revelation does not even use the term antichrist in Revelation. But he does define antichrist in his epistles. Don’t make the mistake of confusing the leopard, bear, lion beast of Rev with antichrist. Scripture tells us beasts are kingdoms (Dan7:23). Scripture also tells us antichrist is one who denies Christ (1John2:18, 1John2:22, 1John4:3 and 2 John1:7) and there are many antichrists that have been with us since John first wrote those epistles.

May God bless your studies!
 
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phillip1980

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I saw the antichrist in a dream. I didn't look him square in the face because I didn't want him to have me arrested. But he was Greek or Middle Eastern looking having Olive skin. He was tall, very fit, very well proportioned, good looking, and had black hair. I would say he was around 40. I saw him surrounded by followers. Everybody was happy, cheerful, and smiling. Him too. I couldn't get away fast enough.
 
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doulos

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I think the question should be, why is every new American president suspected to be the antichrist?

Because many do not understand that antichrists are simply those who deny Christ. Sadly many false doctrines have been taught that falsely teach the leopard, bear, lion beast of Revelation is the antichrist. As a result many are so busy looking for some boogeyman false doctrine calls “The antichrist” and they fail to realize we are literally surrounded by billions of antichrists ( muslims, atheists etc… and the list goes on) in today’s world.

1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

As we can all see the only 4 verses in Scripture that use the terms antichrist or antichrists none state antichrist is an end time world leader.

If we study Scripture and use the definitions Scripture itself provides we will see that antichrist is one who denies Christ and beasts as used in the figurative language of prophecy are kingdoms.

Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

Fulfilled prophecy demonstrates that Daniel’s lion beast was Babylon, the bear beast was Medo-Persia and the leopard was Greece.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Our unchanging God/Word defines beasts as kingdom so the leopard, bear, lion beast of Rev is a kingdom not some ficticous individual aka “The antichrist” that rules the world in the end times! Can anyone show where our unchanging God/Word changed the definition of a beast from a kingdom to antichrist? My friends understanding prophecy requires that we use the definitions our unchanging God provides in His inspired Word. If we use those definitons we will find that the prophetic verses paint a far different picture then the commonly taught doctrines do.

May God bless your studies!
 
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doulos

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You are right. However the term THE antichrist has become an easy way to speak of the one spoken of in Revelation and Daniel. It is short form. And he certainly will be against Christ, so...
Perpetuating a mistake that falsely labels the leopard, bear, lion beast of Rev is an antichrist instead of a kingdom only helps to promote false doctrine. It is our duty as Christians to stand for the truth of God’s word. So it is in our best interest not to follow the lead of those who have made that mistake.
See post #64 where Scripture was used to show the difference between a beast as used in the figurative language of prophecy and antichrist.

May God bless your studies!
 
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doulos

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More than half the world's Christians are Catholic. Christianity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia If the Pope says birth control is bad, women around the world stop taking birth control and start having babies. The Pope's Position on Birth Control | The Nation This is what happens when the Pope comes to New York. Well, really anywhere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgCp2PicAAE

He's the second most popular Tweeter anywhere, and the first most followed world religious leader: CNS STORY: Pope is most influential, second most-followed world leader on Twitter

Their literature discusses why believers must obey the Pope: Why must we obey the Pope?

Catholicism and the pope may have many doctrinal errors but they do believe and teach that Christ is the only begotten Son of God . They also teach that Christ was crucified, died and was resurrected on the third day.
1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Please show me which of the above verses the Catholics or the pope is guilty of transgressing.

Believe it or not there are more people in today’s world that follow the 7[SUP]th[/SUP] century illiterate, lying, thieving, murdering, child doing (per islams own writings) false prophet muhammad then the pope.
"According to the Vatican's statistics, Muslims surpassed Catholics in 2006." http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/2011-02-23-catholic_vatican_22_ST_N.htm


muhammad requires all of his (not God's) followers (and has for approximately 1400 years) to deny the existence of God’s Son by teaching them that to even believe God begat a Son is most monstrous.
Sura 19:88-89 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!
According to islam even admitting that God begat a Son is an unpardonable sin. (do a search on the term shirk in islam)

It is islam that changes the times. On this side of the world today is Thursday Feb13, 2014 but according to islam it is Thursday 13 Raby` al-THaany 1435 A.H.
It is Islam that changes the law by teaching the exact opposite of the gospel.
islam The Opposite


May I suggest reading this free online book The False Prophet <click which goes into far more detail then can be put in a single post.

May God bless your studies!
 
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doulos

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I saw the antichrist in a dream. I didn't look him square in the face because I didn't want him to have me arrested. But he was Greek or Middle Eastern looking having Olive skin. He was tall, very fit, very well proportioned, good looking, and had black hair. I would say he was around 40. I saw him surrounded by followers. Everybody was happy, cheerful, and smiling. Him too. I couldn't get away fast enough.
Believe Scripture not your dreams!
 

Nautilus

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Type "Is Obama" into Google and one of the top three suggested searches will always be "the Antichrist?" If the Web had existed in Ronald Reagan's day, you'd have gotten the same result for him and (likewise for Mikhail Gorbachev).

Hot Antichrist-on-Antichrist action.
So clearly there is a huge chunk of the world waiting for someone to come along and fulfill the old biblical prophecy: A charismatic leader will fool the whole world, rise to power, institute a worldwide dictatorial regime and (finally) bring about the Apocalypse. There exist entire religious sects who keep a sharp eye out for the smooth talking sign of the End Times who will trigger the destruction of everything we know and love.
You skeptics can laugh, but know that many Americans who vote in 2012 will be doing it based on which of the two candidates is least likely to be the Antichrist.
The Only Problem Is ...
The Antichrist is mentioned only four times in the Bible, and each time he's described the same way:
"Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the Antichrist." (2 John 1:7)
Yep: The Antichrist is anyone who doesn't believe in Christ. The "anti" is basically being used the same way it's used when we say someone is "anti-war." So anyone who wants to accuse Richard Dawkins of being the Antichrist is actually entirely correct, and what's more, he'll agree with you..
Actually Came From:
There are characters in the Book of Revelation who will help usher in the End of Days: for instance, there is a False Prophet, who looks like a lamb and talks like a dragon (figuratively, we're assuming). And then we have "The Beast" from Revelation 13, which is described as "coming out of the sea" with 10 horns, seven heads, 10 crowns and other body parts that do not even resemble a human body accidentally.

The Beast we're talking about is the beast on the right.
The beast is who is associated with the number 666, by the way. It wasn't until the second century that some dude named Saint Irenaeus started calling it the Antichrist, borrowing the term from another part of the Bible that wasn't referring to it. But even that did very little to change the fact that The Beast would have a hard time getting elected to public office since it looked like ... well, a beast.

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It wasn't until the Middle Ages that the Antichrist was portrayed as a guy rather than a huge multiheaded monster. Thus the Antichrist, as a figure in pop culture and cheap-shot accusation was born. Countless novels (like the worldwide bestselling Left Behind series) and movies have helped push the concept to where it is today.
So to summarize, millions are awaiting what they believe is the fulfillment of an ancient biblical prophecy that is in reality cobbled together from at least three different characters from the Bible, with a little bit of Rosemary's Baby for good measure.
 
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Type "Is Obama" into Google and one of the top three suggested searches will always be "the Antichrist?" If the Web had existed in Ronald Reagan's day, you'd have gotten the same result for him and (likewise for Mikhail Gorbachev).

Hot Antichrist-on-Antichrist action.
So clearly there is a huge chunk of the world waiting for someone to come along and fulfill the old biblical prophecy: A charismatic leader will fool the whole world, rise to power, institute a worldwide dictatorial regime and (finally) bring about the Apocalypse. There exist entire religious sects who keep a sharp eye out for the smooth talking sign of the End Times who will trigger the destruction of everything we know and love.
You skeptics can laugh, but know that many Americans who vote in 2012 will be doing it based on which of the two candidates is least likely to be the Antichrist.
The Only Problem Is ...
The Antichrist is mentioned only four times in the Bible, and each time he's described the same way:
"Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the Antichrist." (2 John 1:7)
Yep: The Antichrist is anyone who doesn't believe in Christ. The "anti" is basically being used the same way it's used when we say someone is "anti-war." So anyone who wants to accuse Richard Dawkins of being the Antichrist is actually entirely correct, and what's more, he'll agree with you..
Actually Came From:
There are characters in the Book of Revelation who will help usher in the End of Days: for instance, there is a False Prophet, who looks like a lamb and talks like a dragon (figuratively, we're assuming). And then we have "The Beast" from Revelation 13, which is described as "coming out of the sea" with 10 horns, seven heads, 10 crowns and other body parts that do not even resemble a human body accidentally.

The Beast we're talking about is the beast on the right.
The beast is who is associated with the number 666, by the way. It wasn't until the second century that some dude named Saint Irenaeus started calling it the Antichrist, borrowing the term from another part of the Bible that wasn't referring to it. But even that did very little to change the fact that The Beast would have a hard time getting elected to public office since it looked like ... well, a beast.

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It wasn't until the Middle Ages that the Antichrist was portrayed as a guy rather than a huge multiheaded monster. Thus the Antichrist, as a figure in pop culture and cheap-shot accusation was born. Countless novels (like the worldwide bestselling Left Behind series) and movies have helped push the concept to where it is today.
So to summarize, millions are awaiting what they believe is the fulfillment of an ancient biblical prophecy that is in reality cobbled together from at least three different characters from the Bible, with a little bit of Rosemary's Baby for good measure.
Nautilus, you should not quote Rev. 13 as referring to "The Beast." Scripture does not apply this word as a proper noun (i.e., with upper case "b." All references in Revelation 13 refer to "the beast."
 

Nautilus

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oh wow a capitalization complaint...ill be so sure to allow you to edit my next post before it goes up
 
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Kerry

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To the OP. Obama is certainly not the Antichrist. He is to stupid. How could he get ten nations to follow him, When he can't even get his nation to follow.
 

Katy-follower

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Katy-follower, the masses have already been deceived. They are so deceived by a smokescreen called "the Anti-Christ" that they do not recognize those identified by "anti-Christ" in context (1 John 2:18; 22, 4:3; 2 John v. 7). Please read these (the only application of this word in scripture and you will no longer focus on this word as in the idea of a boogeyman dictator who opposes the Israelis.
We must believe what the scriptures say and not lean on our own understanding. I'm not deceived, I trust God's word not the opinions of men.

Yes, there are many antichrists in the world, but just one 'man of sin' to come.

The title 'son of perdition' was given to two individuals in scripture - Judas (past) and a coming man of lawlessness, who will appear in the last days.

2 Thess 2:3-4: "Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God"
 
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ClaudiaT

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No, Obama is not the Antichrist. The Antichrist had already come in the Apostle Paul's day, for he said that the 'Mystery of Iniquity' had already begun to work.

Martin Luther told us who the Antichrist is, and why. He cites the book of Daniel:

"They allege the Sabbath changed into Sunday, the Lord's day, contrary to the Decalogue, as it appear, neither is there any example more boasted of than the changing of the Sabbath day. Great, they say, is the power and authority of the church, since it dispensed with one of the Ten Commandments." Martin Luther, Augsburg Confession of Faith, art. 28.
“I hope that the last day is at the door. Things could not become worse than the Roman see makes it. It suppresses the commandments of God, it exalts its own commandments above God’s. If this is not Antichrist, then some one else must tell what it is.” - “Luther’s Reformatory Works,” p. 280. Copenhagen: 1883.

Even Philip Melanchthon, Martin Luther's companion in the Reformation, on the prophecy on Daniel 7:25, declared:
"He [the papal Little Horn] changeth the tymes and lawes that any of the sixe worke dayes commanded of God will make them unholy and idle dayes when he lyste, or of their owne holy dayes abolished make worke dayes agen, or when they changed ye Saterday into Sondaye. . . . They have changed God's lawes and turned them into their owne traditions to be kept above God's precepts."—Exposition of Daniel the Prophete (1545), tr. by George Joye, p. 119.

It was the changing of the 10 Commandment Law of God that makes someone the Antichrist. The Catholic Church admits to doing just that.

The Bible Says: "He shall speak great words... and think to change times and laws." Daniel 7:25

Father James A. O'Brien: "That observance [of Sunday instead of Saturday] remains as
a reminder of the Mother Church from which the non-Catholic sects broke away."1
1The Faith of Millions (Huntington, IN: Our Sunday Visitor, Inc., 1974), p. 401.

"The Bible says, Remember that thou keep holy the Sabbath day. The Catholic church
says, No! By my divine power I abolish the Sabbath day, and command you to keep the
first day of the week. And lo, the entire civilized world bows down in reverent
obedience to the command of the holy Catholic church!" Father Enright, C.S.S.R. of
the Redemptoral College, Kansas City, History of the Sabbath, p. 802

“You may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single
line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious
observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctified.” James Cardinal Gibbons,
The Faith of Our Fathers (1917 ed.), pages 72, 73.

“If Protestants would follow the Bible, they should worship God on the Sabbath Day
(Saturday). In keeping the Sunday they are following a law of the Catholic Church.”
Albert Smith, chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore, Feb. 10, 1920.

“The observance of Sunday by the Protestants is an homage they pay, in spite of
themselves, to the authority of the Catholic church.” Monsignor Louis Segur, Plain
Talk About the Protestantism of Today (1868).

"SUNDAY is our MARK of authority. . . . The church is ABOVE the Bible, and this
transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.”—Catholic Record,
September 1, 1923.

"Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change (Saturday Sabbath to Sunday)
was her act... And the act is a MARK of her ecclesiastical authority in religious
things." H.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons
 
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ClaudiaT

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It was the changing of the 10 Commandment Law of God that makes someone the Antichrist. The Catholic Church admits to doing just that. That is why he is called "the man of SIN" or of LAWNESSNESS. This means he would seek to somehow tamper with God's Law. Notice in Revelation 14 where it talks about those who receive the Mark of the Beast, that the SAINTS who do NOT receive it as describes as 'they that keep the Commandments OF GOD' Revelation 14:12. This means that those who receive the Mark of the Beast will keep the Commandments OF MEN. Remember that Jesus said "in vain do they worship Me, keeping for DOCTRINE the Commandments OF MEN."
 
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ClaudiaT

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Because many do not understand that antichrists are simply those who deny Christ. Sadly many false doctrines have been taught that falsely teach the leopard, bear, lion beast of Revelation is the antichrist. As a result many are so busy looking for some boogeyman false doctrine calls “The antichrist” and they fail to realize we are literally surrounded by billions of antichrists ( muslims, atheists etc… and the list goes on) in today’s world.

1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

As we can all see the only 4 verses in Scripture that use the terms antichrist or antichrists none state antichrist is an end time world leader.

If we study Scripture and use the definitions Scripture itself provides we will see that antichrist is one who denies Christ and beasts as used in the figurative language of prophecy are kingdoms.

Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

Fulfilled prophecy demonstrates that Daniel’s lion beast was Babylon, the bear beast was Medo-Persia and the leopard was Greece.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Our unchanging God/Word defines beasts as kingdom so the leopard, bear, lion beast of Rev is a kingdom not some ficticous individual aka “The antichrist” that rules the world in the end times! Can anyone show where our unchanging God/Word changed the definition of a beast from a kingdom to antichrist? My friends understanding prophecy requires that we use the definitions our unchanging God provides in His inspired Word. If we use those definitons we will find that the prophetic verses paint a far different picture then the commonly taught doctrines do.

May God bless your studies!

*I am sorry that this post will be LONG, but its the only way for me to explain all of this. So please forgive me for the length of it.


The LITTLE HORN power is the Antichrist. He comes out from the Fourth Beast which is ROME. This applies to the PAPAL POWER of the Roman Catholic Church.

That is why the Office of the Pope's Name adds to 666.

The title"Vicarius Filii Dei" appeared in Our Sunday Visitor, a Catholicjournal. An article in the April 18, 1915 issue of 'Our Sunday Visitor' hadthe following question and answer:

"Whatare the letters on the Pope’s crown and what do they signify if anything? Theletters on the Pope's crown are these: Vicarius Filii Dei, which is a Latin forVicar of the Son of God." -Our Sunday Visitor, April 18, 1915, p.3

VICARIUS -means substituting for, or in place of

FILII -means son

DEI - meansGOD

V = 5
I = 1
C = 100
A = novalue
R = novalue
I = 1
U/V = 5
S= no value
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Total=112

F = novalue
I = 1
L = 50
I = 1
I = 1
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Total=53

D = 500
E = novalue
I = 1
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Total=501

GrandTotal=666

112 + 53 +501 = 666

The Little Horn Power

"I considered the horns, and, behold, therecame up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of thefirst horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes likethe eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things. " Daniel 7.8.

Who is this little horn? In prophecy a horn stands for a king.

"And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shallarise." Daniel 7:24.

We must abide by the word of God. Before we go further, we would like to stressthis observation: We are presenting God's final warning message that is sovital to the people of all churches, whether they be Catholics, Protestants, orJews. What we are discussing is a part of this last warning. It has come to usfrom the lips of Jesus, Who desires that all men might be saved. He wants everyone of us to be ready to go to heaven when He comes the second time. We areonly revealing what God has already written in the Book. You will soon see thatit is necessary for God to point out a certain organization in our world as ameans to give us guidance in how to heed His last warning message.

Now back to the question-What of this little horn? We will follow these simplemethods in our discussions, which we believe you will find acceptable. (1) Wewill permit God to give the clue. (2) Authoritative history will substantiateGod's claim. (3) The church will declare its position from its authoritativestatements. With these objectives in mind, let us closely study the followingseven points of identification concerning the little horn.

To begin with, let us make the following statement, then back it up with theseproofs. We will discover that the little horn represents the organization inthe world called the Papacy.

1. Let us note proof of this fact because of the time of its appearance. itmust appear after the division of the Roman Empire.

"And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: andanother shall rise after them;" Daniel 7:24.

The Papacy was established in A.D. 538 when it subdued the Ostrogoths. The tenhorns, or the divided kingdom, was established in A.D. 476. Thus you can see ata glance that the Papacy arose after the ten kingdoms, exactly as the prophecystates, "and another shall rise after them. "

2. This little horn would differ in its nature of authority.

"And he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue threekings." Daniel 7:24.

The Papacy has always been a religious power. The other ten kingdoms were of atemporal nature, dealing in matters of state only. Thus this point issubstantiated-the Papacy is different.

3. The little horn would destroy three kings.

"And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: andanother shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and heshall subdue three kings." Daniel 7:24.

History reveals that the Papacy destroyed three of the ten kingdoms, which wereas follows. (1) The Heruli in A.D. 493, (2) the Vandals in A.D. 534, (3) theOstrogoths in A.D. 538. From The Question Box, by Conway, on page 166, we readthat the church admits destroying three powers in securing her temporalsovereign. I quote:

"The distance from Constantinople, the interrupted communications with theExarch of Ravenna, the constant fighting against the Goths, the Huns and theLombards, the putting down of rebellions against the Emperor in Rome itself-alltended to turn the Pope willingly or unwillingly, into a temporal sovereign(Hodgkin, Italy, v., 355)."

Please note that seven out of the original ten nations are still in existencetoday-Germany, England, France, Spain, Portugal, Italy, and Switzerland. Thisis just as God declared. What a marvelous fulfillment of prophecy!

4. The little horn would have eyes like a man.

'I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another littlehorn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots:and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speakinggreat things." Daniel 7:8. This great organization is headed by a man. Allthe world today recognizes him as the Pope.

5. The little horn would speak against God.

"And he shall speak great words against the most High " Daniel 7:25.

Again we quote from authentic Catholic writings:

"All names which in the Scriptures are applied to Christ, by virtue ofwhich it is established that he is over the church, all the same names areapplied to the Pope."-R.F. Bellarmine, On the Authority of Councils, vol.II, book 2, chap. 17, p. 266 (ed. 1619).

"The Pope is of so great dignity and so exalted that he is not a mere man,but as it were God, and the vicar of God."-P.F.L. Ferraris, EcclesiasticalDictionary, art. On the Pope.

You have discovered five amazing predictions. Now permit me to bring you thelast two. These are likewise based upon the Word of God.

6. The little horn would persecute.

"And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear outthe saints of the most High." Daniel 7:25.

How true these words have proved in history. There are many sources to choosefrom, but let us read just one.

"That the Church of Rome has shed more innocent blood than any otherinstitution that has ever existed among mankind, will be questioned by noProtestant who has a competent knowledge of history. The memorials, indeed, ofmany of her persecutions are now so scanty, that it is impossible to form acomplete conception of the multitude of her victims, and it is quite certainthat no powers of imagination can adequately realize theirsuffering."-William Edward Hartpole Lecky, History of the Rise and Influenceof the Spirit of Rationalism in Europe, vol. 2 (London: Longmans, Green, andCompany, 1904), p. 32.

Perhaps it would be well here to read something from the church. She admitsfreely that she has persecuted. Notice this carefully.

"The church has persecuted. Only a tyro in church history will deny that.... One hundred and fifty years after Constantine the Donatists werepersecuted and sometimes put to death ... Protestants were persecuted in Franceand Spain with the full approval of the church authorities. We have alwaysdefended the persecution of the Huguenots, and the Spanish Inquisition.Wherever and whenever there is honest Catholicity, there will be a cleardistinction drawn between truth and error, and Catholicity and all forms ofheresy. When she thinks it good to use physical force, she will use it .... Butwill the Catholic Church give bond that she will not persecute at all? Will sheguarantee absolute freedom and equality of all churches and all faiths? TheCatholic Church gives no bonds for her good behavior."-The WesternWatchman, December 24, 1908.

7. The little horn would attempt to change God's law.

"And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear outthe saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws." Daniel7:25.

I think it only needful that we read one more quotation from the EcclesiasticalDictionary of the Roman Catholic Church, article on the pope, and see how thisanswers the prediction of God.

"The Pope is of so great authority and power that he can modify, explain,or interpret even divine laws. The Pope can modify divine law, since his poweris not of man but of God, and he acts as vicegerent of God upon earth with mostample power of binding and loosing his sheep."-P.F.L. Ferraris,Ecclesiastical Dictionary, art. On the Pope.

We can see clearly how this power has attempted to change the divine law of Godtoday. Every one is acquainted with the Ten Commandments as found in Exodus 20of the Old Testament. If you will turn to any catechism published by the churchof Rome, you will discover that the Ten Commandments have been changed. Thesecond commandment is completely left out. This is the commandment that states,"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image. " But you will alsoquickly note that they do have ten commandments. This was accomplished bydividing the last commandment and making two out of it. Again we see that thepredictions of God are fulfilled in this little horn.

Here are seven points of identity, proving beyond any doubt that the Papacyindeed is the little horn of Daniel 7. Now we have discovered another link inour chain of understanding concerning the beast of Revelation 13, for it isindeed identical with the little horn of Daniel 7. There is no doubt that thelittle horn and the beast of Revelation 13 are the same.
 
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May I suggest reading this free online book The False Prophet <click which goes into far more detail then can be put in a single post.

May God bless your studies!
This is an excellent book, and I'm so happy you are sharing it with people. This is the book that woke me up last year. I understand the big picture of Islam. He's the false prophet, though, not the "other than" or anti-christ.

I don't want to argue the point. I do think it has merit. Whoever it is, they will be revealed very soon. If you've got some time, take a look at this video: YahTube: Walter Veith - The Man Behind The Mask In fact, I'd recommend the whole page, but it is a real time investment.
 

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so wait im confused is it the jews, the muslims, the catholics, or the illuminati that is the antichrist? Everyone is saying something different...surely such confusion cant be of God...
 
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I'll take that bet that we elect a new one in 2016 despite your prediction
I hope there will be another. It would be sad to go out with Obama being the last...
 
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do you think obama is the antichrist?
He is certainly one of them.
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.