Western Men Finding Wives Overseas

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I am Caucasian and a US citizen. My wife is from Indonesia. I didn't have any specific plans to find an Asian wife or an Indonesian wife when I started working abroad. But I was working abroad during the years I was looking for a wife, and I believed the Lord had a hand in having me where I was so I could meet my wife.

Every once in a while I'll encounter a man, usually on the Internet, who thinks feminism or some other aspect of western culture has corrupted potential brides in the west, and say that a man has to go to Asia or Russia to find a good wife. There are also Internet websites for international dating and matchmaking that have sprung up alongside the domestic internet dating industry. I read a news article that about 35% of marriages during a certain time period were from people who initially met online. I'm not sure the population it was from, but I suspect they took their survey in the US. With the Internet, it is easier to meet people from all over the world. When I lived in southeast Asia, over the course of a year or two, a three of our females we knew from church met men over the Internet and married them. I think they were all from Virginia. At least two of the men were.

I disagree with the idea that it is impossible to find a good wife in the west. There are godly women and men in the US. But I can see why men would look to other areas like Asia, Africa, or Latin America to find brides with more traditional values about marriage. I can also understand that some Caucasian men are attracted to Asian women, for example. I also know that some Asian women like Caucausian men. That mix seems to work well.

Some American and European men may have a little bit of a sense of chivalry. Their culture tends to be less 'macho' and more egalitarian than a lot of Asian cultures. In the movies, white guys save the planet from alien invaders, asteroids, save nations, buses, etc. from bad guys. Western salaries are higher than in most Asian countries. The down side is that western men may be more likely to have fornicated than men from some other countries, and may have a looser attitude toward divorce.

Many of the Asian cultures are 'less contaminated by feminism'. I was eating lunch with a group of college aged Koreans back in the mid-1990s'. One of them let the girl in our group have a go at cooking on the hibachi grill, and said, "You cook since you are a woman" in Korean. They laughed, including the girl, without making any kind of feminist PC scowl, no feigned or real indignation. Women in my wife's country generally accept the idea, at least in theory that a wife is supposed to submit to her husband. Women, including those who work in the office, seem to embrace the idea that a woman should be diligent in cooking, keeping a clean house, and all those sorts of traditional things. And it seems like women embrace femininity in a lot of Asian cultures. Also, virginity until marriage was the norm in the country I was in for both men and women. There was a stigma attached to either gender that violated this.

The idea of men going to Russia to find traditional brides is still weird to me because I grew up in an era when Russians were presented almost as not loving their children, too. It was presented as a society of atheists that had forsaken traditional values. I've also heard of wide-spread fornication among the young in Russia. Some men may not care about that. But I have read it is a kind of macho society.

A down side of marrying a western woman is that our society is so accepting of divorce. Still, there are individual women who don't think that way. Virginity at marrying age is kind of rare, but there still are virgin females in the west if a man is looking for one. can understand why a man would search for a woman in Asia.

I don't know what other country western women could go for an idealized man. Most non-western cultures are more 'macho' than ours in terms of male and female roles. That may appeal to some women, but not all. Men from some countries tend to be shorter on average than western men. Few countries outside of the west have as high of salaries as the west does.

I knew a couple of women who married southeast Asian men. (The US president's mother also did this, btw.) One of the men is well accomplished in many areas of his life. They are both Christians, but I since that disagreement over her more feminist attitudes may have caused a bit of tension in the marriage. They've been together a long time and raised children they can be proud of.

I just thought I'd bring up this broad topic and see if anyone wanted to discuss it. The topic of marrying someone from abroad came up in another thread, and I thought it could make for its own topic of conversation.
 

presidente

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Btw, I'm just thinking about my marriage with my wife. I love my wife and I spent many years in my wife's country. I don't mind telling single American men that it is a good place to go to look for marriage-minded women with traditional values about marriage.

Some people warn against the cross cultural difficulties in a marriage with someone from overseas. I don't think I really had more conflict with my wife over cultural issues than I might have had she been raised in New Jersey or Alabama. We have a very similar background when it comes to faith, and I think that helps. I also lived in her country for years, learned her country's lingua franca, and that helps, too. If I were to have married a die-hard feminist who was kind of liberal from the US, I think that would have provided more opportunity for conflict than my wife's different cultural background.
 
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I am Caucasian and a US citizen. My wife is from Indonesia. I didn't have any specific plans to find an Asian wife or an Indonesian wife when I started working abroad. But I was working abroad during the years I was looking for a wife, and I believed the Lord had a hand in having me where I was so I could meet my wife.

Every once in a while I'll encounter a man, usually on the Internet, who thinks feminism or some other aspect of western culture has corrupted potential brides in the west, and say that a man has to go to Asia or Russia to find a good wife. There are also Internet websites for international dating and matchmaking that have sprung up alongside the domestic internet dating industry. I read a news article that about 35% of marriages during a certain time period were from people who initially met online. I'm not sure the population it was from, but I suspect they took their survey in the US. With the Internet, it is easier to meet people from all over the world. When I lived in southeast Asia, over the course of a year or two, a three of our females we knew from church met men over the Internet and married them. I think they were all from Virginia. At least two of the men were.

I disagree with the idea that it is impossible to find a good wife in the west. There are godly women and men in the US. But I can see why men would look to other areas like Asia, Africa, or Latin America to find brides with more traditional values about marriage. I can also understand that some Caucasian men are attracted to Asian women, for example. I also know that some Asian women like Caucausian men. That mix seems to work well.

Some American and European men may have a little bit of a sense of chivalry. Their culture tends to be less 'macho' and more egalitarian than a lot of Asian cultures. In the movies, white guys save the planet from alien invaders, asteroids, save nations, buses, etc. from bad guys. Western salaries are higher than in most Asian countries. The down side is that western men may be more likely to have fornicated than men from some other countries, and may have a looser attitude toward divorce.

Many of the Asian cultures are 'less contaminated by feminism'. I was eating lunch with a group of college aged Koreans back in the mid-1990s'. One of them let the girl in our group have a go at cooking on the hibachi grill, and said, "You cook since you are a woman" in Korean. They laughed, including the girl, without making any kind of feminist PC scowl, no feigned or real indignation. Women in my wife's country generally accept the idea, at least in theory that a wife is supposed to submit to her husband. Women, including those who work in the office, seem to embrace the idea that a woman should be diligent in cooking, keeping a clean house, and all those sorts of traditional things. And it seems like women embrace femininity in a lot of Asian cultures. Also, virginity until marriage was the norm in the country I was in for both men and women. There was a stigma attached to either gender that violated this.

The idea of men going to Russia to find traditional brides is still weird to me because I grew up in an era when Russians were presented almost as not loving their children, too. It was presented as a society of atheists that had forsaken traditional values. I've also heard of wide-spread fornication among the young in Russia. Some men may not care about that. But I have read it is a kind of macho society.

A down side of marrying a western woman is that our society is so accepting of divorce. Still, there are individual women who don't think that way. Virginity at marrying age is kind of rare, but there still are virgin females in the west if a man is looking for one. can understand why a man would search for a woman in Asia.

I don't know what other country western women could go for an idealized man. Most non-western cultures are more 'macho' than ours in terms of male and female roles. That may appeal to some women, but not all. Men from some countries tend to be shorter on average than western men. Few countries outside of the west have as high of salaries as the west does.

I knew a couple of women who married southeast Asian men. (The US president's mother also did this, btw.) One of the men is well accomplished in many areas of his life. They are both Christians, but I since that disagreement over her more feminist attitudes may have caused a bit of tension in the marriage. They've been together a long time and raised children they can be proud of.

I just thought I'd bring up this broad topic and see if anyone wanted to discuss it. The topic of marrying someone from abroad came up in another thread, and I thought it could make for its own topic of conversation.
Not only overseas but at college campuses.
 
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Stated differently, do you mean you feel somehow threatened by Western women? including Christian Western women?
 
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I am Caucasian and a US citizen. My wife is from Indonesia. I didn't have any specific plans to find an Asian wife or an Indonesian wife when I started working abroad. But I was working abroad during the years I was looking for a wife, and I believed the Lord had a hand in having me where I was so I could meet my wife.

Every once in a while I'll encounter a man, usually on the Internet, who thinks feminism or some other aspect of western culture has corrupted potential brides in the west, and say that a man has to go to Asia or Russia to find a good wife. There are also Internet websites for international dating and matchmaking that have sprung up alongside the domestic internet dating industry. I read a news article that about 35% of marriages during a certain time period were from people who initially met online. I'm not sure the population it was from, but I suspect they took their survey in the US. With the Internet, it is easier to meet people from all over the world. When I lived in southeast Asia, over the course of a year or two, a three of our females we knew from church met men over the Internet and married them. I think they were all from Virginia. At least two of the men were.

I disagree with the idea that it is impossible to find a good wife in the west. There are godly women and men in the US. But I can see why men would look to other areas like Asia, Africa, or Latin America to find brides with more traditional values about marriage. I can also understand that some Caucasian men are attracted to Asian women, for example. I also know that some Asian women like Caucausian men. That mix seems to work well.

Some American and European men may have a little bit of a sense of chivalry. Their culture tends to be less 'macho' and more egalitarian than a lot of Asian cultures. In the movies, white guys save the planet from alien invaders, asteroids, save nations, buses, etc. from bad guys. Western salaries are higher than in most Asian countries. The down side is that western men may be more likely to have fornicated than men from some other countries, and may have a looser attitude toward divorce.

Many of the Asian cultures are 'less contaminated by feminism'. I was eating lunch with a group of college aged Koreans back in the mid-1990s'. One of them let the girl in our group have a go at cooking on the hibachi grill, and said, "You cook since you are a woman" in Korean. They laughed, including the girl, without making any kind of feminist PC scowl, no feigned or real indignation. Women in my wife's country generally accept the idea, at least in theory that a wife is supposed to submit to her husband. Women, including those who work in the office, seem to embrace the idea that a woman should be diligent in cooking, keeping a clean house, and all those sorts of traditional things. And it seems like women embrace femininity in a lot of Asian cultures. Also, virginity until marriage was the norm in the country I was in for both men and women. There was a stigma attached to either gender that violated this.

The idea of men going to Russia to find traditional brides is still weird to me because I grew up in an era when Russians were presented almost as not loving their children, too. It was presented as a society of atheists that had forsaken traditional values. I've also heard of wide-spread fornication among the young in Russia. Some men may not care about that. But I have read it is a kind of macho society.

A down side of marrying a western woman is that our society is so accepting of divorce. Still, there are individual women who don't think that way. Virginity at marrying age is kind of rare, but there still are virgin females in the west if a man is looking for one. can understand why a man would search for a woman in Asia.

I don't know what other country western women could go for an idealized man. Most non-western cultures are more 'macho' than ours in terms of male and female roles. That may appeal to some women, but not all. Men from some countries tend to be shorter on average than western men. Few countries outside of the west have as high of salaries as the west does.

I knew a couple of women who married southeast Asian men. (The US president's mother also did this, btw.) One of the men is well accomplished in many areas of his life. They are both Christians, but I since that disagreement over her more feminist attitudes may have caused a bit of tension in the marriage. They've been together a long time and raised children they can be proud of.

I just thought I'd bring up this broad topic and see if anyone wanted to discuss it. The topic of marrying someone from abroad came up in another thread, and I thought it could make for its own topic of conversation.
Interesting observations. My father is caucasian, from the USA, and my mother is from the Philippines. I'm not saying my mother is all sweet and perfectly submissive, but her views on marriage and gender roles are definitely more traditional and conservative than what I see around me here in the west. She believes in equality and respect for men and women alike, but not in the same way that I see from most feminists. She doesn't get hung up on politically correct phrases and things like that, and comments like you mentioned "you cook because you're the woman" would just make her grin instead of cringe. That's probably why I'm so indifferent towards feminism. It was just never an issue in my upbringing.

As far as western women and non-western men, I think can speak to this, too. Though I am half filipino, I was born and raised here in the states, and I am currently dating a young man who is from east Asia. His culture is one of the ones that would be considered more 'macho', as you say, and he has a moderately traditional/conservative view of marriage and gender roles. I am one of those women that finds this appealing. His culture also holds male virginity in high regard and I think that is awesome. I have a desire to either be a stay-at-home-mom or find some way to work part time or from home. He thinks that's awesome and he thinks there's nothing wrong with that, but some of my other guy friends have actually teased me and told me that I'm way too old fashioned and that it's "lazy" for a married woman to not pursue a regular 9-5 job.

All that said, both of us are sort of multicultural hybrids, and are probably not the best examples for your theories. :) I'm an American girl raised with asian values, and he was born in Asia but spent his adolescent years in the states. I have found that both of us are slightly more conservative than many westerners, but also less legalistic than some eastern cultures. I think I just got lucky. :)

Btw, I'm just thinking about my marriage with my wife. I love my wife and I spent many years in my wife's country. I don't mind telling single American men that it is a good place to go to look for marriage-minded women with traditional values about marriage.

Some people warn against the cross cultural difficulties in a marriage with someone from overseas. I don't think I really had more conflict with my wife over cultural issues than I might have had she been raised in New Jersey or Alabama. We have a very similar background when it comes to faith, and I think that helps. I also lived in her country for years, learned her country's lingua franca, and that helps, too. If I were to have married a die-hard feminist who was kind of liberal from the US, I think that would have provided more opportunity for conflict than my wife's different cultural background.
The emboldened section is definitely important. I love my parents, but I have seen SO many misunderstandings and hurt feelings stem from their vastly different cultural upbringings. I believe if my dad had lived in country for years and learned her language and culture first, things would have been different.
 
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Stated differently, do you mean you feel somehow threatened by Western women? including Christian Western women?
The issue for me isn't one of being threatened but one of 'quality.' American women prior to the Women Liberation Movement could do it all for their family because it was a job they accepted. Most of them could work 40 hours a week and cook, clean, manage and balance the acts. And they were not greedy. It isn't no secret that their marriages lasted a lifetime on the average of 40 years, compared to 7 years or less today. Very few women today can match their grandmothers' skills. Most of today's women can't cook, can't clean, can't iron ... can't balance a job & family chores. Simply put, many don't want to do it but they get excited about a huge payout during a divorce. IMHO, many of today's women are doing twice less than their grandmothers but want 4 times the compensation. IMHO, most of today's American women are just pitiful and not worth marrying. Foreign women are 3 times better than today's American women, and many American men notice the differences. How did these working grandmothers managed a job and family duties? They delegated family members to pitch in. For example: she would teach her girls how to cook and they would assist her with those duties and other chores. Most of American women today don't any part of it but expect to find, keep and marry a high quality husband. It ain't happening. I should know because I watched the show 50 years ago.
 
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Hello presidente! I happened upon a documentary 5 years ago. This guy travelled around the world to meet woman to find out how committed they are in relationships and how easy they were to befriend. I think it was Brazil that topped the list of woman that were taught to please their man and were the most friendly. So the young woman he met assured him she would be committed to him even though he had to finish his documentary. He's not a Christian, so even though there was pre-marital intimacy there was a bond that assured him she was the one for him.
Canadian and American woman were not so open and friendly.
Somehow Christianity has become entangled with the affairs of this world. No thanks to both ungodly men and immature Christians who mistreat their families. And Christians watch too much tv and read too many secular books and magazines.
You did well in the previous post regarding feminism.
The Feminists will have their victory; but Christ said he will pay his enemies to their face. Till then we will preach Christ crucified, as Paul said.
Regards, Larry.
 

presidente

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Stated differently, do you mean you feel somehow threatened by Western women? including Christian Western women?

No, not unless they threaten me. :)

One I issue I raised is that certain men find Asian women (or women from other cultures) to be more desirable partners for a number of cultural reasons.
 
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Hello presidente! I happened upon a documentary 5 years ago. This guy travelled around the world to meet woman to find out how committed they are in relationships and how easy they were to befriend. I think it was Brazil that topped the list of woman that were taught to please their man and were the most friendly. So the young woman he met assured him she would be committed to him even though he had to finish his documentary. He's not a Christian, so even though there was pre-marital intimacy there was a bond that assured him she was the one for him.
Canadian and American woman were not so open and friendly.
Somehow Christianity has become entangled with the affairs of this world. No thanks to both ungodly men and immature Christians who mistreat their families. And Christians watch too much tv and read too many secular books and magazines.
You did well in the previous post regarding feminism.
The Feminists will have their victory; but Christ said he will pay his enemies to their face. Till then we will preach Christ crucified, as Paul said.
Regards, Larry.
Great post
 

presidente

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The issue for me isn't one of being threatened but one of 'quality.' American women prior to the Women Liberation Movement could do it all for their family because it was a job they accepted. Most of them could work 40 hours a week and cook, clean, manage and balance the acts. And they were not greedy. It isn't no secret that their marriages lasted a lifetime on the average of 40 years, compared to 7 years or less today. Very few women today can match their grandmothers' skills. Most of today's women can't cook, can't clean, can't iron ... can't balance a job & family chores. Simply put, many don't want to do it but they get excited about a huge payout during a divorce. IMHO, many of today's women are doing twice less than their grandmothers but want 4 times the compensation. IMHO, most of today's American women are just pitiful and not worth marrying.


You paint with a rather broad brush. I still believe there are godly women who would make good wives in the US. Feminism is part of the cultural backdrop, but you can find women from church subcultures that aren't feminist, too, in this country. There are also women who are very much anti-divorce. That's something anyone wanting to get married should find out about. Male or female, it makes sense to find out what a potential spouse believes about divorce. Working into a conversation when you aren't talking about the two of you getting married is probably a good idea. If the potential spouse believes in divorce over small stuff, that's a sign of potential future problems.


There are also plenty of hard working women out there, still, though the entitlement mentality is probably far more widespread among both genders than it was for our grandparent's generation.


Foreign women are 3 times better than today's American women, and many American men notice the differences.
What foreign women? Canadian women? Swedish women? There is no guarantee that if a woman is not from your home country that she won't have any beliefs, practices,or philosophies that you don't agree with.

And women are women no matter where they are from. There are people with character defects from countries all over the world. You could marry an Asian woman who was raised like a princess with a maid to do her laundry and make her bed as a child who expects you to buy her expensive clothes. Westerners don't have a corner on the market for princesses.



 
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i have been in china for over 7 years and would warn western men about imagining that chinese women are submissive stereotypes. they are not. chinese culture is collapsing and can best be described as being in a state of anomie. i sat with 4 chinese women at lunch a month ago. all 4 were divorced and in their late 30s or 40s with a child. the streets near the best universities in china have small walk in abortion clinics for students. younger chinese women will openly state their goal as finding "a sugar daddy." all i can say is that this is not the china your grand daddy described when he came back from the yangtse river patrol in 1936.
 
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presidente

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i have been in china for over 7 years and would warn western men about imagining that chinese women are submissive stereotypes. they are not. chinese culture is collapsing and can best be described as being in a state of anomie. i sat with 4 chinese women at lunch a month ago. all 4 were divorced and in their late 30s or 40s with a child. the streets near the best universities in china have small walk in abortion clinics for students. younger chinese women will openly state their goal as finding "a sugar daddy." all i can say is that this is not the china your grand daddy described when he came back from the yangtse river patrol in 1936.
The idea that if a man goes to Asia and marries an Asian woman, he is guaranteed to come back with a submissive woman is a myth. In my wife's country, there is this an adjective that describes a woman who is verbally angry, critical, etc. Chinese women have a reputation for being that way in her country. It also seems like some Korean women 'rule the roost' so to speak. Wherever you go, women are women. If girls are taught to act very demure and talk really softly in public, that doesn't mean they will act that way at home once they are married. Asians are people, too. National culture does not define individual personality, either.

As far as Chinese culture goes, the Communist revolution really messed it up. Decades of state-promoted atheism can't be good for the manners or philosophy of a society. Even so, there are probably many, many godly single Christians who would make fine wives and husbands in China.

As far as the national culture goes, I hear virginity is rare in Japan. Filippino culture highly values marriage and tends to be very anti-divorce. Indonesians seem to fairly universally acknowledge that wives should submit to their husbands. In practice, it depends on the marriage, just like anywhere else. Virginity before marriage was the norm before I left there. And at least in some parts, they are used to dealing with people from different cultures since the country is very diverse, and they tend to be laid hack and value making people feel comfortable. There is some really great hospitality in Indonesia. In general, the culture isn't as accepting of divorce as the US, but I can think of one people-group where it may be worse. That's an Islamic people-group. Christians generally are not as accepting of divorce as Christians in the US.

Just about any country has some drunks, thieves, con artists, etc. Marrying someone from a certain country is no guarantee you'll get a good spouse.
 

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I've heard a little about international matchmakers and I was thinking about how some people considered international matchmaking to be 'human trafficking.' Probably because some men, especially in Asian countries, will pay a marriage broker and marry a woman they've just met. I've even heard that compared to prostitution. I guess there are similarities. Money changes hands, and a man gets a wife. But in the Old Testament, God had men pay the father of the bride a bride price for virgins, and that wasn't prostitution.

Part of the problem may be that people in society don't have the respect for marriage that used to have. Hiring a prostitute for sex is a lot different from committing to a wife for life-- even if it is expected that the couple will have sex, too. Western people may look at these matchmaker things as fake marriages because the couple didn't fall in love first, but the tradition of having arranged marriages, even marrying sight unseen isn't that far back in the past for some of these cultures. And matchmakers have been around for a long time. There is just an international component, now.

Some of the restrictions I've heard some of the countries have put in place seem reasonable, like a criminal background check on a man before he marries. Finding out if he already has a wife also seems reasonable. I met and courted my wife while living overseas, but I had to sign a document under penalty of perjury that I was not married to anyone else.

One of the problems is that a small percentage of women who are supposed to be taken to new husbands are taken to brothels. Some end up with abusive spouses. The latter can happen even if a couple dates or courts the modern way. So some countries have clamped down on it. In Singapore, it's possible to go to an agency to hook a man up with a Vietnamese woman. Lots of Singaporean women are engrossed in their careers. The government tries to promote marriage among young people to replenish the population. Some of the men marry Vietnamese wives, expecting them to help around the house, have children, and fulfill a more traditional role. In South Korea, farmers have a hard time attracting local women, so some men get Vietnamese wives through matchmaking. One town even got behind it.

Many of the Chinese aborted away a lot of their girl babies, with families wanting sons and reacting to the one-child policy. So they get brides from elsewhere, like Vietnam. I suppose the children of a Korean or Chinese man and a Vietnamese woman would look local enough, and wouldn't change the looks of the country even if it would eventually have an effect on the ethnic make-up of the country. I can see why Vietnam would want to prevent brides from being exported. Where are their men going to go? A friend of mine said someone ought to start a business matching a group of women who have difficulty finding husbands-- e.g. educated American black women, and match them up where there is likely to be a bride shortage-- Vietnam. But I just don't see it working. :)

Indonesia's parliament discussed a bill several years ago that would require a man to pay the government $50,000 to marry an Indonesian woman. One of the actresses married to a white man objected publicly saying the government was selling brides. I think it was supposed to be some kind of insurance against divorce, but I don't think anyone would trust the government to give the money to the woman if there was a divorce, and if not, where would it go? It sounded like a way to get money rather than to solve a real social issue.

I think background checks for this sort of thing to do what they can to prevent women from marrying abusive men or bigamists is reasonable. But I don't like to see governments clamping down on this sort of thing. One reason is I'm married to an Asian woman, and it sure would have been cruel for the government to have charged a man living on a teacher's salary $50k to marry one of their girls. I also don't like the ethnocentric accusations of western people who grew up watching Disney movies that matchmaker marriages are 'prostitution' even if people pay matchmakers a fee. It's incredibly risky to get married this way, for both parties, especially when parents aren't interviewing the other side of the family to look for red flags like they do in some cultures that have arranged marriages. It's risky for both the man and the woman, but it is their risk. But even so, I don't like to see governments preventing people from marrying. I do understand governments trying to keep a balance of males and females to marry to prevent population problems, though.

I don't think it's totally insane to meet someone through an international matchmaker, and then doing a lot of research about the other person first before making a decision, though. It doesn't fit well with western culture, but arranged marriages have worked for lots of other peoples for centuries, and I don't see why it should be illegal to use matchmakers or the Internet to do such things.
 
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I found my husband in Canada. He's green and kinda dumb so... I wouldn't recommend looking there. Unless you're into that sorta thing.
 
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I found my husband in Canada. He's green and kinda dumb so... I wouldn't recommend looking there. Unless you're into that sorta thing.
Umm...Canada is kind of not quite 'overseas', unless the Niagara River counts as a sea...
 
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You paint with a rather broad brush. I still believe there are godly women who would make good wives in the US. Feminism is part of the cultural backdrop, but you can find women from church subcultures that aren't feminist, too, in this country. There are also women who are very much anti-divorce. That's something anyone wanting to get married should find out about. Male or female, it makes sense to find out what a potential spouse believes about divorce. Working into a conversation when you aren't talking about the two of you getting married is probably a good idea. If the potential spouse believes in divorce over small stuff, that's a sign of potential future problems.


There are also plenty of hard working women out there, still, though the entitlement mentality is probably far more widespread among both genders than it was for our grandparent's generation.




What foreign women? Canadian women? Swedish women? There is no guarantee that if a woman is not from your home country that she won't have any beliefs, practices,or philosophies that you don't agree with.

And women are women no matter where they are from. There are people with character defects from countries all over the world. You could marry an Asian woman who was raised like a princess with a maid to do her laundry and make her bed as a child who expects you to buy her expensive clothes. Westerners don't have a corner on the market for princesses.



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A broad brush? just don't wind up in divorce court because a American christian women will show you as much mercy as an executioner. I believe marriage to a foreign woman will last longer and less likely to end in a divorce. Christian woman or not, she know that a divorce court will work in her favor, stripping you of 60-70% of your assets. She has a incredible weapon at her disposal. Not a great feeling for many American men. That's why the growing trend is to shop for foreign brides because he can get married in her countries and abide by the laws governing divorces. The risks are just too high for AmericanChristian or non-Christian women and why the marriage rate is at a dismal 28-30% in 2012. Most of these American men know what they are up against and are not eager to marry. I know American women who have a ton of assets from several divorces.
 
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presidente

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I found my husband in Canada. He's green and kinda dumb so... I wouldn't recommend looking there. Unless you're into that sorta thing.
Is calling your husband 'dumb' respectful? I wouldn't talk about my wife like that.