Limiting family size

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Matthew

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Limiting family size is often mentioned as a way to slow population growth and while I do think population growth does need to slow down, if not stop outright for a while, I think limiting family size by act of government should be an absolute last resort, but if people behaved responsibly it probably wouldn't be necessary to even discuss it.

I have seen situations where people have decided they want a large family and so they have had one, but they haven't thought about the subsequent years and what they can reasonably expect to provide to each child and so when that time arrives they can't always do enough.
Many wider social problems begin because of difficulties in the home and the root of many of these problems is lack of enough money and other things, often because people without high paying careers have wanted a large family and have gone onto have one in spite of knowing they could not support them all through to adulthood.

I think having a family is like many other things in life, you have to follow your heart but you also have to balance what you want with what you can actaully do, and oftentimes people have more children than they are emotionally capable of dealing with or financially supporting, and often it is sadly the innocent child who pays the price.
 
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But what if you don't believe in using contraceptions? Kinda hard to control when you might get a baby lol
 
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Matthew

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But what if you don't believe in using contraceptions? Kinda hard to control when you might get a baby lol
Then I suppose the couple in question just have to take an approach to their sex life that limits the risk and just try and find the best compromise possible.

I don't pretend for one moment that it's always avoidable or that it is easy to balance the risk against the desire for physical intimacy, but in my opinion you don't create life as a consequence of wanting some physical pleasure, you set out do it with intent.

But whether we are talking about a husband or a wife, you know it's a long life and there are many other ways to be intimate and give eachother physical pleasure that does not carry that particular risk, just use your imagination.
 
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Kathleen

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Well thank God your parents didn't want to make the family size so small or you wouldn't be here.
You made me laugh so thanks for that :D

All I'm saying, Kathleen, is that there is a higher power to things that we are concerned with. We cannot possibly judge on what amount of children is appropriate or not appropriate.

I, personally, feel that whatever children you were given is a gift and that was meant to be given to you. Know what I mean?
I know what you mean but I feel that was quit diffrent to ur first statment

Oh? So the bible is outdated, then.

We might think it's stupid to have what we think is an abnormally large family, however if you only obtained 200 pounds a week, God provides. Money, food, and space. You just have to trust him.
It says in the bible that It is a shame unto a man who cannot provide for his family. If I decide to have 19 children and me and my husband just sit on our bum all day every day- God will not provide , it is our resposibility. God has blessed and rewareded our family greatly we live a very comfortable life, but my dad has to work 12 hours a day 4 days a week for that.
 
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aprilrenee1

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are you PRO LIFE or PRO BIRTH?

I really dont think its ok to have kids if they cannot be taken care of.

and i heard somewhere along the line that the whole idea the world is over popluated is not right statistics.
 
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Matthew

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i heard somewhere along the line that the whole idea the world is over popluated is not right statistics.
Well don't just take that for truth, research it yourself :)

Whether or not the world is overpopulated in terms of the amount of people versus the amount of space available is not the only factor.
It is about the standard of living that is available to everyone along with resources and food etc.

The sad fact is that even in the most developed countries there is often still a lack of quality homes, a lack of healthcare, dentistry and education and many other things, and things are a lot worse elsewhere.

One line of thinking is we shouldn't bring millions more people into the world until we can adequately take care of those who are already here.
 
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Raeshelle

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Well lets just say I wouldn't be here if they had limited family size as i am #4 of 7.
 
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katybattle

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hi i'm katy and i'm looking for a friend.
 

Kathleen

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hi katy - ill be ur friend
feel free to pm me or drop me a line in the chat room - im almost always on cc
God Bless
 
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katybattle

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that's a nice saying raeshelle. :)
 
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katybattle

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thanks. so what's up?
 
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katybattle

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i'm new here and kind of nervous.... aaahhh... i'm very shy.
 

Kathleen

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i'm new here and kind of nervous.... aaahhh... i'm very shy.
So basically we are debating whether we would support a scheme being leaglised to make it so that a couple can have no more than 2 children -- whats your veiws katy?
 
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katybattle

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i think that the # of kids should be about 4.
 
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katybattle

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at the most.
 
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katybattle

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and hey guess what. my name's kathleen too! :)
 
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katybattle

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i gotta go. God bless!
 
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I agree with Ira about people having children when they aren't in any position to take care of them...financially and otherwise. It bothers me when people are on welfare and taking handouts from the government, yet continuing to have children that they can't provide for. In that case, I'm not necessarily for limiting family size-- but I think everyone needs to take personal responsibility and only have the number of children that they can provide for. I also am not a fan of people having ridiculous amounts of children for personal gain or fame (octomom) -- but that's another rant for another time haha.
 
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tryingtofindhim

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In China you are not allowed to have more that 2 children - if you do this is against the law. Most families in China want there name to be carried on and therefor any girls that God has blessed them with are genreally tossed on the street untill a male is born. As a result of this more that half of the population of China is now homosexual.

In Britian around 2014 it has been preposed that a petition or vote will happen to see if we should make it so no more than 2 children can be born to one couple.

My dad and mum had a total of 6 children. I am no#6 of 6. But my dad has a total of 3 siblings. 2 of them did not have any children so my dad basically took there 2 if you know what I mean? - DO you think this would be acceptable?

So the problem is we have far too many people on the planet already for our environment and resources to handle, and the number is only getting bigger.

One of the ways that could solve this problem is by introducing a limit to family sizes, either strictly enforced, or by a "child tax" on couples with more than say, 2 children.

Would you support such a scheme were it brought in?
I would definitely not support it. I am in a big family and generations before me have had big families and I would like to continue it. I don't really have my reasons yet of why I want a big family but for now I do. So the answer to your question, no. That infringes on our freedom. In China, they either kill or put unwanted kids up for adoption; I would not like that to happen in America.

I come a big family my parents have 6 together and my mom has 2 and my dad has 1 child outside of their marriage. So the thing about people shouldn't have 10 kids is understandable if they can't support them, but if they can that's fine. I also agree with whoever said some people shouldn't have kids.
 
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